FJBen
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Builds The "Red Rocket" Troopy (3 Viewers)
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nuclearbeef
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Looks like it's time for the Wonder bread trick.
FJBen
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What’s the wonderbread trick with a throwout bearing?
I’m not sure but it’ll make you wonder
nuclearbeef
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FJBen
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BigHighBlue
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I was having a similar issue with my truck recently. We pulled the trans to change the clutch and hopefully address the noise. We found what seemed to be a failed pilot bearing but no evidence that there was an issue with the throwout. After changing and reassembling, the noise went a way for a few weeks then came back. For now I'm just rolling with it...
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Yup, throw out bearing is what I was thinking. It’s really the only moving part other than the pressue plate when I manipulate the clutch pedal. Video seems spot on, thanks
Yep, brand new throughout and pilot bearing. Maybe it could have washed it all out who knows
This is exactly what I’m gonna do. No not pull the transmission out, just roll with it. Anyone know if a throughout bearing can fail catastrophically? This is one of the few things I’m thinking I’ll just drive with until it literally explodes on me, or you know if it’s making a horrible sound or affecting the way the car preforms.
BigHighBlue
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There's plenty of people more knowledgeable than me on here but I think the whole assembly would have to explode for it to be a problem
Your clutch disc will shake around really bad causing your truck to shudder whenever you let out the clutch when the throwout bearing is really bad. If you however learn to move your feet properly you can negate 75+% of the slop in the bearing on letout. As the RPM's come up the clutch disc will center itself Since it only makes the noise in neutral my guess is it's minor slop on the bearing and because there is no "force" holding back the tranny it is not forcing the clutch disc to center and bearing slop to go away, or perhaps it's input bearing slop combined with throwout slop................If it is in fact your throwout bearing, and all you got is that little noise I'd say you have a long way to go before you need to worry about anything flying apart. Other's please chime in here. .........Really perhaps you just need to load it up with attractive passengers and test.
On your winch. Great find on the used winch. Use a snatch block and your 8K winch will always be powerfull enough. If you can't use the snatch block because the pull is too long I'd bet money it will still be strong enough especially if you get a bit creative with traction aids etc.................Winch rope is nice, safe, and I think cheaper than cable, but you're supposed to clean it sometimes to keep sand from wearing/cutting the fibers. Cable can be abused and left muddy and sitting for a year before you use it again..................I got cable for this reason. If your 24V winch fails you can use a 12V winch or 12V winch motor with 24V(thats what I have). I don't winch more than about 4 seconds without stopping for the same amount of time. It's really fast. I'm not the first person to do this successfully. Continuous high load use will likely burn up the motor at some point. If you take the money you saved with a used winch and buy another locker it will prolong/lessen the use of the winch..
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jblueridge
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Throw-out bearing: when you want to do something bold like get across a 4 lane highway, just remember you might not be able to shift if the clutch fails suddenly. Plan accordingly.
FJBen
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I learned to drive stick on an early 70s 1/2 cab bronco, 3 speed.
The throwout bearing was whining like crazy, for 2.5 years til we sold it. Now I’m not recommending that, but just saying it’s possible…it will hold for quite awhile until you have time to deal with it, or will crap the bed in spectacular fashion.
The throwout bearing was whining like crazy, for 2.5 years til we sold it. Now I’m not recommending that, but just saying it’s possible…it will hold for quite awhile until you have time to deal with it, or will crap the bed in spectacular fashion.
FJBen
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Looking back at the video, other people with h55f have heard the same thing, myself included.
Usually happens on neutral with clutch out. It’s like the throwout is just barely touching the pressure plate. If I push my clutch in again and let out, it goes away. Ironically since I pulled the clutch a month ago it hasn’t done it again.
I’m wondering since you have a custom spacer/bellhousing setup, it seems to me that is the exact point where it’s just beginning to touch the pressure plate and move.
If it happens with the clutch in then I’d say you have a bigger problem.
Usually happens on neutral with clutch out. It’s like the throwout is just barely touching the pressure plate. If I push my clutch in again and let out, it goes away. Ironically since I pulled the clutch a month ago it hasn’t done it again.
I’m wondering since you have a custom spacer/bellhousing setup, it seems to me that is the exact point where it’s just beginning to touch the pressure plate and move.
If it happens with the clutch in then I’d say you have a bigger problem.
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Thank you all for the input on the throw out bearing, and yea. Just gonna drive it forever… well more realistically until something in there fails and then I’ll fix both at the same time. Time will tell what will happen
I took apart the winch today and was pleasantly surprised that it seemed like it was pretty recently greased, I figured the military would have just kinda ran it until it died, then replaced it with a new one. Maybe @robmobile73 can chime in on if regular maintenance was a common thing. I know obviously on vehicles and everything but for something as minuscule as a winch on a trailer I would have guessed it was just skipped. Looked and smelled like some sort of moly fortified grease so I just put more in since it wasn’t dry or nasty. Slapped it all back together. On the electrical side I have really no clue what I’m looking at in terms of faults but it looked pretty clean in the motor, I sprayed some cleaner for moving electronic parts in it and let it dry.
Cleaned and painted the roller
As for mounting the winch I don’t know exactly what or how to do it, here’s a video below showing how I think I mount it to the bumper, don’t really know where the fair lead would mount to or how it would go on the other side of the bumper. If anyone had any input or suggestions it’ll be greatly appreciated
I took apart the winch today and was pleasantly surprised that it seemed like it was pretty recently greased, I figured the military would have just kinda ran it until it died, then replaced it with a new one. Maybe @robmobile73 can chime in on if regular maintenance was a common thing. I know obviously on vehicles and everything but for something as minuscule as a winch on a trailer I would have guessed it was just skipped. Looked and smelled like some sort of moly fortified grease so I just put more in since it wasn’t dry or nasty. Slapped it all back together. On the electrical side I have really no clue what I’m looking at in terms of faults but it looked pretty clean in the motor, I sprayed some cleaner for moving electronic parts in it and let it dry.
Cleaned and painted the roller
As for mounting the winch I don’t know exactly what or how to do it, here’s a video below showing how I think I mount it to the bumper, don’t really know where the fair lead would mount to or how it would go on the other side of the bumper. If anyone had any input or suggestions it’ll be greatly appreciated
Are you going to run rope or cable? For rope with the ARB you are going to want to get an offset hawse, otherwise the rope is going to rub on the bumper. Mine is a simple Aries brand made of aluminum. You can go fancier and get something like a Factor 55 but this works well enough for $60. If you are going to run cable, then the bumper has a built in spot to run the rollers on that lip that sticks out.
For the bolts it should through bolt using the 4 (well 3 in the photo) that you can see on my bumper. There should be nuts that are inside of the legs of the winch. You might need longer bolts than were supplied with the winch.
You can clock the lever to have it be on the top and make it more accessible. There are a few videos on the instructions for that on YouTube, its pretty easy. Basically just unbolt the side with the lever and cover, dont remove it and just rotate the lever and cover and then bolt it back up.
For the bolts it should through bolt using the 4 (well 3 in the photo) that you can see on my bumper. There should be nuts that are inside of the legs of the winch. You might need longer bolts than were supplied with the winch.
You can clock the lever to have it be on the top and make it more accessible. There are a few videos on the instructions for that on YouTube, its pretty easy. Basically just unbolt the side with the lever and cover, dont remove it and just rotate the lever and cover and then bolt it back up.
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Nothing crazy just went on the hunt for some dead trees to use as fire wood for this coming winter. My house is only heated by wood.
The beginning of the haul of wood. should have taken an end result.
Also pretty cool thing happened last night. Was going to watch the sunset on the Blue Ridge Parkway when I drove by a rotten 40 parked at an overlook. Turned around and went to introduce myself, turned out to be a girl my age who goes to my college who bought it back in January. SUPER ROTTEN. 1970 with original drivetrain and all. She is pretty clueless when it comes to cars, said she just learned how to change her spark plugs and change the oil. Obviously, I offered my help and knowledge whenever she would need it and said I'd show her how to change the diff and tranny fluid, ontop of having access to my driveway and all my tools. Her knowledge level is around where mine was when I was 17 with a FJ62. Who would have guessed 2 years later I would learn how to DIY turbo my 3B, 3 years later my engine would have blown and 4 years later here I am with my completed engine swap driving around Appalachia. Hope to help her get started.
The beginning of the haul of wood. should have taken an end result.
Also pretty cool thing happened last night. Was going to watch the sunset on the Blue Ridge Parkway when I drove by a rotten 40 parked at an overlook. Turned around and went to introduce myself, turned out to be a girl my age who goes to my college who bought it back in January. SUPER ROTTEN. 1970 with original drivetrain and all. She is pretty clueless when it comes to cars, said she just learned how to change her spark plugs and change the oil. Obviously, I offered my help and knowledge whenever she would need it and said I'd show her how to change the diff and tranny fluid, ontop of having access to my driveway and all my tools. Her knowledge level is around where mine was when I was 17 with a FJ62. Who would have guessed 2 years later I would learn how to DIY turbo my 3B, 3 years later my engine would have blown and 4 years later here I am with my completed engine swap driving around Appalachia. Hope to help her get started.
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Thank you!!! super helpful, tons of info I wouldn't have known otherwise. Just clocked the winch now worked great
cruiserinsanity
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Girl our age with a 40? Hey, give her my number.
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You heat with wood? You're gonna need a bigger Cruiser...
I swear to God, sometimes I think the best way to make these things last forever is to just never raise the hood.
