Talk me out of this - IFS/IRS Yaris 3cyl powered FJ40 buggy

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Thanks for the head's up. I'm keeping an eye out for Echo's in my area too. Looks like they could be an easier option. I probably will have abs tone rings on all 4 corners, but I'd rather not have to keep it all operational.
 
I don't really see how it would be worth cutting up a perfectly good fj40 to make this. Its not hard to make what you have more streetable so you can drive it more. Your planning on just using some body panels off of the 40 it sounds like, seems a waist to throw away all the fab work on the rig for some body panels. Sell it and start from scratch. Personally I have never liked the light mini motored crawlers. They just seem boring to me. Now put a 700hp LS in it, and yea good times had by all. Those kind of buggies blow the doors off of razors. Although you will need serious components to hold up to that kinda power.
 
If typing the second part of your thread title didn't talk you out of this, having to tell your folks that you're "jeep curious" might?

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I don't really see how it would be worth cutting up a perfectly good fj40 to make this. Its not hard to make what you have more streetable so you can drive it more. Your planning on just using some body panels off of the 40 it sounds like, seems a waist to throw away all the fab work on the rig for some body panels. Sell it and start from scratch. Personally I have never liked the light mini motored crawlers. They just seem boring to me. Now put a 700hp LS in it, and yea good times had by all. Those kind of buggies blow the doors off of razors. Although you will need serious components to hold up to that kinda power.

My problem with this is that my tow truck is a 5th gen 4runner. So if I'm going pure buggy with it - it needs to be trailered behind my 4runner. Otherwise the alternative would probably be to rebuild the suspension and put a full drive train out of something else - maybe a tundra? Whatever sells cheap at auctions. Possibly a tacoma 4.0L with a 6 speed could work too. But I'm not sure I really gain a lot. It runs and drives now. It's licensed. It's just not a good street vehicle with the 2f and 4 speed. If I go this route I'd probably drop back down to something like 35-37" tires that are a bit more streetable. I did a full repaint - but it's nearing 15yrs old and the reality is that it's kinda a pile of crap as it sits right now. - A whole lot of college kid.... It just needs everything - engine, suspension, interior work, a new cage, and possibly a frame. I think I bent the frame - it doesn't quite sit level anymore corner to corner. It struggles with death wobble, probably due to 12" wide wheels with 2" backspacing and bias ply tires (I have fixed the caster by cutting and turning the knuckles). So it just needs so much I've thought that I might be better off to just keep the body and axles and start from scratch with the rest. And then I thought - should I really even keep the axles?


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My formula ford race car was 1,100 lb ready to race with driver in it. They are not even close to being durable. You need to rethink your weight goal. Start by only adding up the wheel and tire weight for four 40" tires and you'll see that there is not enough left for everything else. I don't know what you plan to use but if you guessed at 130 lb per corner you'd be pretty close I'd think. That equates to 520 lb for just the tires and wheels!
 
But cutting that cruiser up is a waste to just use the bib and hood that you will cut up anyway
One I'm building now only thing I have used from truck we took apart is the transmission and transfer case and diffs after cutting all the four link brackets off should have just left it together and sold it less engine and transmission
 
And I do want big tires. I think at least 37's, but I'd really like to run something around 40" if I can.

what kind of wheeling are you planning on doing with it? why are 40s important? this is what I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around. Tire size is usually determined (at least in my area) by center clearance and/or floatation (or, I suppose what mall you're trying to impress the ladies at). If you have a super-light rig, you don't need the huge footprint.... what am I missing here?


and strangely coincidentally, a friend today was trying to convince me to buy a 800 Polaris - and my only real interest would be to strap it to a UTV - that's 140 hp.... and you get a centrifugal clutch
 
I was putting my TRX 450r together tonight and had an epiphany. I don't need a tiny 4x4, between the quad, the Toyota, the H3 Hummer, the Rubicon and the Suburban that's coming into my life.... what would I use it for? can't tow behind my '40, would take the quad behind the H3 or in the Suburban.... and around here they have width limits 48,60, unlimited (part of the reason my '40 has narrowed axles). I hope the OP builds it, and I'm glad for the discussion because it helps clarify what I'm willing to own or build..... on top of this, I have a 72 Chevy truck that needs a remodel - then a 50 Buick, if I want to get the Buick done I need to start being smart about what I build. Thanks.
 
Are the little side by side streeet legal in the USA...??

Or only for OHV land use..

it really, really depends. In many places on the west that don't touch an ocean - they can be licensed. In the touch-the-Pacific states, most can be licensed for dirt roads and/or specially designated roads. The South, I hear really varies but usually you can drive them because they don't go fast enough to need a license (as I said, this one really varies), in the NE - oh hell no. In some places in the NE, if they catch you riding one on the street they'll confiscate the atv/utv and crush it....

Remember this is a general rule - it has LOTS of exceptions. I'm in Washington, thus as long as it has lights, brake lights and signals they can be licensed for dirt roads on State or Federal land and/or special rule areas. The operator must have a license and if under 18 must take a 'safety' course. To be honest, even as a dirt bike rider, atv rider, and potential utv owner - I'm not sure I agree with this because in a couple areas there have been some breathtaking close calls where someone in a UTV is blowing down a dirt road at 70, drifting and almost ending as a bug on the front of my 4x4.... I figure it's merely a matter of time (even though the speed limit on the road is 25 so it'd be completely their fault if they splattered)
 
it really, really depends. In many places on the west that don't touch an ocean - they can be licensed. In the touch-the-Pacific states, most can be licensed for dirt roads and/or specially designated roads. The South, I hear really varies but usually you can drive them because they don't go fast enough to need a license (as I said, this one really varies), in the NE - oh hell no. In some places in the NE, if they catch you riding one on the street they'll confiscate the atv/utv and crush it....

Remember this is a general rule - it has LOTS of exceptions. I'm in Washington, thus as long as it has lights, brake lights and signals they can be licensed for dirt roads on State or Federal land and/or special rule areas. The operator must have a license and if under 18 must take a 'safety' course. To be honest, even as a dirt bike rider, atv rider, and potential utv owner - I'm not sure I agree with this because in a couple areas there have been some breathtaking close calls where someone in a UTV is blowing down a dirt road at 70, drifting and almost ending as a bug on the front of my 4x4.... I figure it's merely a matter of time (even though the speed limit on the road is 25 so it'd be completely their fault if they splattered)
And that is why I have interested on sidecars...

Even if many four wheel vehicles are legal in Europe, they are more 'fast tours' than anything else, well and all the quads and many side by side..

What can I do with tha thing like this...

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At least this ones folds...
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600cc max, anything more is almost suicide


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Well this ones are the ones that really unterested me...

Up in the 200H/P and a about 170mph180mph in the dirt.

This thing is ALL GO, NO SHOW...!!

As far as I know only two other similar two this one exist...

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So freaking sexy.,, but sincerely is like riding on a "tron" bike in the dunes or the desert;.
 
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You guys have a different concept of "can go anywhere" than I do.
 

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