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[OGBeno]

Your build here is quite impressive.

I assume you outsourced the machine work and the like? How much did all of that run? (not talking about what you are paying Robbie)

I have a shot 1FZ sitting around in my living room (seriously) and I am tempted to make it a long term project (couple of years) and would like to get a parts list with part #'s from you if I can.

Nice job.
-o-

 

[Beowulf]

I have a shot 1FZ sitting around in my living room (seriously) and I am tempted to make it a long term project

But... but... but... you said. Oh well, never mind.

-B-

 

[OGBeno]

But... but... but... you said. Oh well, never mind.

-B-

Haven't heard from ya yet....

Just thinking out-loud Beo....you know me....

My offer still stands.

 

[Bruneti]

Please post some links for more information on these 2 statements. I am not challenging this but I would like to do some research and I don't want to hi-jack this thread or get it off on a HG tangent. I don't think the cost (~$170) of a MLS HG would be a deterrent for most of us.

-B-

Beowulf,
Couldn't reply earlier, but now I've got a chance to provide a couple links:
Head gasket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Head Gaskets
Why Head Gaskets Fail - Read about the Toyota 3.4L
Head Gasket Failure, Larry Carley, Underhood Service, August 2002
Federal-Mogul - Fel-Pro PermaTorqueMLS Head Gaskets

The main concern with the MLS gasket is the surface finish required on the head and block.


As far as my statement about the 2JZ engine, I've owned a vehicle with the 2JZ-GTE motor for over 8 years and frequent boards discussing that vehicle. It is common knowledge to members of those forums that the 2JZ-GTE with stock internals and head gasket can easily be pushed to 800 hp at the wheels. Boost pressures of over 30 psi on the stock head gasket are not a problem. I can't find info tonight that I consider credible enough to post a link to. Most of these high hp guys aren't making a big deal out of the fact that they use a stock head gasket (they list out the many aftermarket parts, but not the stock parts), so you have to look for the ones that specified they have never opened the motor to be absolutely sure. Many others brag of stock bottom end, but don't mention what head gasket they're running. The connecting rod bolts are the weakest link in the 2JZ. They "only" take about 1000 hp. Less if you raise the stock rev limit.

Beowulf - Feel free to take this to PM for more discussion. I'll be weighing this HG material decision too for future maintenance.

 

[Bruneti]

Can you elaborate on the Supra pump being a waste of time and money? The pump was about twice the size of my stock pump and designed to feed dual turbos? However, nobody can seem to show the flow rate for the Supra TT pump.

Fuel pump flow rates - Ask and you shall receive.
Stealth 316 - Fuel Pump Upgrade Guide

This article is excellent. Take note that a stock Supra runs fuel pump at 9v until under boost & WOT, then the fuel pump ECU kicks the voltage up to a regulated 12v. This keeps noise and heat low when cruising. Many people running more boost or larger turbos will bypass this fuel pump ecu circuit and run heavier gauge wire to get a little higher voltage at the fuel pump. Many also run dual Supra pumps, or dual Walboros. The Supra Denso pump is very voltage sensitive related to it's flow rates. It also pulls a 'lot' of current. Make sure the wiring is up to the task.

 

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

Your build here is quite impressive.

I assume you outsourced the machine work and the like? How much did all of that run? (not talking about what you are paying Robbie)

I have a shot 1FZ sitting around in my living room (seriously) and I am tempted to make it a long term project (couple of years) and would like to get a parts list with part #'s from you if I can.

Nice job.
-o-

No problem O, I'll p.m. you. I've posted the part numbers that I have used for everything except the pistons. Honestly, I don't think I would use JE Pistons again. They were over three weeks past due when they finally arrived. It took quite a few phone calls (Daily in the end) from the machine shop and myself to finally get them here. We had to talk to the supervisor to finally get them. This is from a company that offers overnight service of custom pistons.

The service I received from JE left a lot to be desired. At least with the rep we dealt with. According to my machinist, he has had stellar dealings with JE until the last three custom orders dealing with the same rep.

 

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

Fuel pump flow rates - Ask and you shall receive.
Stealth 316 - Fuel Pump Upgrade Guide

This article is excellent. Take note that a stock Supra runs fuel pump at 9v until under boost & WOT, then the fuel pump ECU kicks the voltage up to a regulated 12v. This keeps noise and heat low when cruising. Many people running more boost or larger turbos will bypass this fuel pump ecu circuit and run heavier gauge wire to get a little higher voltage at the fuel pump. Many also run dual Supra pumps, or dual Walboros. The Supra Denso pump is very voltage sensitive related to it's flow rates. It also pulls a 'lot' of current. Make sure the wiring is up to the task.

Perfect. Thank you.

 

[Beowulf]

The main concern with the MLS gasket is the surface finish required on the head and block.

Beowulf - Feel free to take this to PM for more discussion. I'll be weighing this HG material decision too for future maintenance.

Thanks Bruneti, this will give me plenty to read. I'm not anywhere close enough in knowledge to ask questions.

The link to the Supra forum confirmed what you are saying about the finish needed on the block and head. I consider that a con though a very minor one.

-B-

 

[Beowulf]

My offer still stands.

Maybe I'll wait till you've got that block all cleaned up and bored out with new pistons.... and *then* call in the favour.

-B-

 

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

I have a shot 1FZ sitting around in my living room (seriously) and I am tempted to make it a long term project
-o-

Long term project? Hell, if it's already in your living room turn it into a coffee table in the meantime. C'mon, a nice piece of glass over the top and your done.

 

[Ruadhrigh]

Long term project? Hell, if it's already in your living room turn it into a coffee table in the meantime. C'mon, a nice piece of glass over the top and your done.

No need for glass it already has six cup holders!

 

[OGBeno]

No need for glass it already has six cup holders!

now that's some funny chit....

 

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

The motor is installed, tuned and running. We (Robbie and I) took it for a nice run this morning. The motor is strong and pulls nicely. I'm putting miles on it to get it broken in and then the fun will really begin.

As for Robbie, aka powderpig, he's off on to his next "Adventure." I cannot express my thanks enough for his help and expertise. He's a true professional and that seems to be hard to find these days.

 

[turbocruiser]

The motor is installed, tuned and running. We (Robbie and I) took it for a nice run this morning. The motor is strong and pulls nicely. I'm putting miles on it to get it broken in and then the fun will really begin.

As for Robbie, aka powderpig, he's off on to his next "Adventure." I cannot express my thanks enough for his help and expertise. He's a true professional and that seems to be hard to find these days.

Awesome! Robbie really is an amazing mechanic and an amazing person. I like the look of the color scheme chosen and the block looks better now too! Excellent excellent excellent!

 

[OGBeno]

Nicely done 24. Really good stuff. I am quite happy that things have turned out really well for you considering what you went through to get to this point.

Can't wait to see it in real life some day.

 

[fjfar80]

Very nice...I really need to get a SC.

 

[mot]

Looks fantastic!

I'd be totally stoked!

Congrats!!

 

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

The autometer wideband will not read below 10.0 AFR i think

That is not accurate. For me not knowing anything about these gauges three weeks age, I am very impressed with this unit.

It actually reads from 0 to 17 AFR, when set up for gasoline. The Stoichiometric (That is the chemically correct ratio where theoretically all of the oxygen and all of the fuel are consumed. The mixture is neither rich or lean.) Air/Fuel ratio is set at 14.7 in the gasoline mode.

You can have it read in either AFR or Lambda (AFR values have a single decimal place and Lambda have two decimal places).

It can be used with the following fuels (The Stoichiometric Air/Fuel Ratio for each fuel is shown in parenthesis; Unleaded gasoline (14.7:1), Methanol (6.4:1), Ethanol (9.0:1), LPG 15.5:1, and CNG (17.2:1). And it's approved for use with Nitrous. I listed the above numbers for our members that can run dual fuels i.e. Unleaded and LPG.

The gauge also has the standard recall mode and if activated a Wide Open Throttle (W.O.T.) Alarm/Warning Mode.

It has a few other little features that I'll probably never use, but perhaps my favorite part of the unit is that the lawyers felt it was necessary to include in the instructions the following Warning. "Warning, Sender will get very hot during operation." Ya think?

 

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

Awesome! Robbie really is an amazing mechanic and an amazing person. I like the look of the color scheme chosen and the block looks better now too! Excellent excellent excellent!

Thank you very much. I totally agree with you about Robbie. A very professional and interesting person indeed. I cannot express my gratitude enough for him doing this project.

Nicely done 24. Really good stuff. I am quite happy that things have turned out really well for you considering what you went through to get to this point.

Can't wait to see it in real life some day.

Yeah, O- You know the whole story. It feels great driving this again. Hopefully I'll make it to Moab next year and then you can flog it for getting me all my parts.

Very nice...I really need to get a SC.

Looks fantastic!

I'd be totally stoked!

Congrats!!

Once again, I appreciate your thoughts guys. I feel honored and kind of humbled to have what I consider the core group of guys on this board interested in something I'm doing.

 

[Falco80]

That 1FZ is a thing of beauty!