SQOD Squad - Stupid Question Of the Day (10 Viewers)

[pvchaitanya]

I am thinking of taking my truck for some real off road OHV trails. What to know what you guys do with the wheels? Do you maintain 2 sets of wheels (one for on road and one for off road) or 2 sets of tires and change them when you go off road?
I know some will say they have full time mud tires all the time but I am not interested in that option.

 

[Fisher23]

I am thinking of taking my truck for some real off road OHV trails. What to know what you guys do with the wheels? Do you maintain 2 sets of wheels (one for on road and one for off road) or 2 sets of tires and change them when you go off road?
I know some will say they have full time mud tires all the time but I am not interested in that option.

No way do i want to remount tire for some off road trip, so it's 2 sets or 1 set.

On my land cruiser I just run 1 set or Nitto ridge grapplers R/T and they are kind of 1/2 between off road and on road.

On my Jeep where we hard core it more I have 2 sets, smaller AT's for daily or mild off road (which can fit chains) and get better mileage, and then larger tires on bead locks for the off road trips.

My experience is AT's and smaller snow rated tires that can fit chains work WAY better in snow n ice than mud tires which work better off road.

 

[TLC2013]

I am thinking of taking my truck for some real off road OHV trails. What to know what you guys do with the wheels? Do you maintain 2 sets of wheels (one for on road and one for off road) or 2 sets of tires and change them when you go off road?
I know some will say they have full time mud tires all the time but I am not interested in that option.

I have two sets of wheels, one with highway tires and one with RT Tires (hybrid between AT and MT). Its a hassle swapping tires and reprogramming TMPS so I haven't been putting many miles on the Highway tires. My experience is that the current popular options of AT and RT tires, for the most part, all ride very smooth with minimal elevated road noise and handling loss compared to a dedicated highway tire so there isn't much of a trade off, just a 2 Mpg hit between the two. Current gas prices Do have me inching closer to putting back on my street ties.

 

[pvchaitanya]

I have two sets of wheels, one with highway tires and one with RT Tires (hybrid between AT and MT). Its a hassle swapping tires and reprogramming TMPS so I haven't been putting many miles on the Highway tires. My experience is that the current popular options of AT and RT tires, for the most part, all ride very smooth with minimal elevated road noise and handling loss compared to a dedicated highway tire so there isn't much of a trade off, just a 2 Mpg hit between the two. Current gas prices Do have me inching closer to putting back on my street ties.

thanks TLC2013 and Fisher23. Looks like there are hybrid tires RT which I should have considered before I put on my current scorpions.

 

[TeCKis300]

I am thinking of taking my truck for some real off road OHV trails. What to know what you guys do with the wheels? Do you maintain 2 sets of wheels (one for on road and one for off road) or 2 sets of tires and change them when you go off road?
I know some will say they have full time mud tires all the time but I am not interested in that option.

IMO, the beauty of the 200-series is its outright capability, everywhere. It could likely do some serious tracks even with stock tires. With a mild set of ATs, that quality is just expanded further. Having a good set of ATs that doesn't have any capability gaps on or off road (save prob mud), can make it perhaps the ultimate swiss army knife. 2 sets of wheels/tires in the sizes that are relevant to the 200-series are in my mind a PITA.

 

[radman]

2 sets of wheels/tires in the sizes that are relevant to the 200-series are in my mind a PITA.

i completely agree. I had grand plans of swapping between my ATs and stocks; however, it has only ever happened twice (when i had to go to the dealer for warranty work).

 

[Idaho Savage]

I'm here to say this is my favorite thread...perfect encapsulation of what MUD is all about.

Carry on.

 

[Heckraiser]

I am thinking of taking my truck for some real off road OHV trails. What to know what you guys do with the wheels? Do you maintain 2 sets of wheels (one for on road and one for off road) or 2 sets of tires and change them when you go off road?
I know some will say they have full time mud tires all the time but I am not interested in that option.

I've been wheeling for decades and never owned a set of mud tires. I have only twice been in a scenario where muds might have saved me from getting a yank with the tow strap. IMO, not worth the tradeoff. AT's (ones that are good in the snow) year round, all conditions, is the easy and cheap way to go. :edit: in all fairness, this is for Colorado/Utah trails. Might be a different story out east.

 

[pvchaitanya]

I've been wheeling for decades and never owned a set of mud tires. I have only twice been in a scenario where muds might have saved me from getting a yank with the tow strap. IMO, not worth the tradeoff. AT's (ones that are good in the snow) year round, all conditions, is the easy and cheap way to go. :edit: in all fairness, this is for Colorado/Utah trails. Might be a different story out east.

thanks for reaffirming. so I am not going to continue use my all season tires for offroading then. Since mine is a LX570 which give me extra height without need for lift.

 

[MTKID]

After re-regearing to 4.88’s, I thought my speedometer might be close to accurate like had worked out on my 80 series, but it’s off about the same. Is that because of the location where the electronic speed sensor is coming from?

 

[TeCKis300]

After re-regearing to 4.88’s, I thought my speedometer might be close to accurate like had worked out on my 80 series, but it’s off about the same. Is that because of the location where the electronic speed sensor is coming from?

With modern cars since about 2000s, speedo is off the ABS system in the hubs, so no change with gearing. Glad you got gears in!

 

[MTKID]

Well, that explains that Glad to have it done. Lockers, of course, in the truck with them but not wired up yet.

 

[Jason Andrews]

Anyone know what the suspension travel from full bump/compression to full extension is with a stock lx570?

ie: 10" total travel- 5" up and 5" down from Normal?

 

[TeCKis300]

Anyone know what the suspension travel from full bump/compression to full extension is with a stock lx570?

ie: 10" total travel- 5" up and 5" down from Normal?

Checkout the thread here. Would love to get data from more rigs.

Suspension Travel Comparison

Been meaning to do this to get some objective numbers to compare ride height versus droop travel versus compression travel. What better to do on a rainy day. Hope is that others may contribute and I'll update my table. We've known for awhile that some aftermarket suspensions increase what is...

forum.ih8mud.com

All measurements are from wheel center to fender lip so they are comparable without tire variables

	Front Measured Ride Height	Front Measured Max Compression	Front Measured Max Droop	Front Compression /Droop Travel	Front Total Travel	Rear Measured Ride Height	Rear Measured Max Compression	Rear Measured Max Droop	Rear Compression /Droop Travel	Rear Total Travel
LX stock	N-19" H-21"	*16"	24.5"	3.5"/5.5"	*8.5" or ~9"	N-20.75" H-23.1"	-	26.63"	N-4.12"/5.88" H-6.5"/3.5"	~10"
LX, Sensor Lift, OEM Front Spacer	N-19.8" H-21.8"	*16"	25.375"	4.4"/5.6"	*9.4" or ~10"	N-21.25" H-23.63"	*17.5"	26.63"	N-4.6"/5.4" H-7"/3.0"	*9.1" or ~10"
LX, AHC delete, Tundra arms, Kings suspension @turbo8	23"	14.5"	26"	8.5"/3"	~11.5"	23.5"		27.5"	5.5"/4"	~10.5"
LC, Tundra arms, Stock shocks, OME 440lb spring @WesSiler	-				~11"					~10"

*Measured, Not Maxed Out

 

[linuxgod]

Anyone know how to get the ~1mm sumitomo connectors to insert into a wiring harness? The larger 2.3mm ones clicked right in, but the smaller ones won't go in. There seems to be a plastic clip that's preventing it from inserting. Is there some special tool I need (or some trick to this)?

 

[bryson]

The white portion insert should have a clip somewhere on the plug body that releases it (only pops out a few mm), allowing the terminal pin to lock in. Then the white portion gets replaced locking the assembly.

 

[sdnative]

Anyone know how to get the ~1mm sumitomo connectors to insert into a wiring harness? The larger 2.3mm ones clicked right in, but the smaller ones won't go in. There seems to be a plastic clip that's preventing it from inserting. Is there some special tool I need (or some trick to this)?

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This is an older document and that connector may not be in here, but maybe something similar?

 

[linuxgod]

The white portion insert should have a clip somewhere on the plug body that releases it (only pops out a few mm), allowing the terminal pin to lock in. Then the white portion gets replaced locking the assembly.

I can take a few more photos but I don't see anywhere in the body to pop it apart. Only thing I can see is if the white part were to pop out from the front - but I can't see how to get a grip on it without some super-special tool.

 

[CharlieS]

Not even a 90 degree pick, or dental pick? I feel like I've had ones that worked like that, hook the white part with a small pick and pull it forward, unlocking the pins.

Like the switchpros plug shown here:

 

[bryson]

I can take a few more photos but I don't see anywhere in the body to pop it apart. Only thing I can see is if the white part were to pop out from the front - but I can't see how to get a grip on it without some super-special tool.

I can't speak for that specific connector, but (and I know this doesn't help even a little bit) it has to come out somehow. Perhaps the releases are somewhere inside the extra holes in the face of it?