Sparks from starter/bell housing/flywheel?

[cartelcruiser]

Get the starter installed correctly with a Denso reman directly purchased from Toyota

Happen to know what sensor PN that is? It’s 280-0117 by the looks of what I found searching for it, but that’s discontinued reman.

 

[mattressking]

28100-60070-84​

 

[cartelcruiser]

28100-60070-84​

Thanks. Grabbed one from Serra. $89, $60 core charge. Not bad

 

[cartelcruiser]

The thing that I don’t understand is the degree of incompetence that it took to rebuild the starter like this. The nose cone is half shielded, to support the Bendix shaft. So the rebuilder (or the mechanic) would have had to install the cone 180 out of rotation to create this clusterf*ck.

Once you get the starter out of the bellhousing, this will make more sense to you.

(Edit) It’s possible that there is just enough eccentricity between the cone and the armature that it is putting the Bendix in a bind. THAT could cause the Bendix to whine, or worse, damage teeth on the flywheel.

Factory remain from toyota arrived today…looks identical

 

[charliemeyer007]

2 wrongs don't make it right, however 3 lefts will. Compare the front nose cone orientation - that is what clocks the unit.

 

[cartelcruiser]

2 wrongs don't make it right, however 3 lefts will. Compare the front nose cone orientation - that is what clocks the unit.

There is no nose cone on either starter. Toyota reman was sent exactly how mine was pulled, without. I’ve already installed the new one, guess we will see what happens when I drive it this weekend.

 

[3_puppies]

will the "new" one bolt in correctly?

I thought you stated early in the post the original one wouldn't.

 

[brian]

 

[cartelcruiser]

will the "new" one bolt in correctly?

I thought you stated early in the post the original one wouldn't.

Depends on what you call correctly. The new one installs in the same position that the old one did. Without a cone housing, there isn’t an issue. Someone said it was upside down, so once I removed the original, I tried it “right side up” that created a large gap opening at the bell housing. The only way for it to install and not gap is to be “upside down”

 

[brian]

Depends on what you call correctly. The new one installs in the same position that the old one did. Without a cone housing, there isn’t an issue. Someone said it was upside down, so once I removed the original, I tried it “right side up” that created a large gap opening at the bell housing. The only way for it to install and not gap is to be “upside down”

It's a round hole?

 

[cartelcruiser]

It's a round hole?

Yes. There’s pictures on page one of this thread.

Here’s the new one installed

 

[Travis Kinney]

Could also be your transfer case shifter mount is loose and the bolts from front drive shaft are rubbing on it. I'm in the process of installing twin shifters and one of the mounts is very close to the front driveshaft bolts.

 

[cartelcruiser]

Could also be your transfer case shifter mount is loose and the bolts from front drive shaft are rubbing on it. I'm in the process of installing twin shifters and one of the mounts is very close to the front driveshaft bolts.

Appreciate the different perspective. Just went out and double checked, everything is good there.

 

[peesalot]

Would the south SA truck have a diff bell house as op is correct the starter cant be installed 180* ? just a thought.

 

[cartelcruiser]

Here’s a photo of when the old starter was present, removed, and the turned the “correct” way.

If you zoom in on the third photo, you can see the gap that it leaves open in the housing, close to the block.

 

[cartelcruiser]

Also, there’s different starters out there for 40 series. Here’s one with solenoid on top, but all the gear reduction starters look like mine

 

[65swb45]

They do not!

I just bought this one for mine a few months ago.

I have another in stock for sale.

 

[cartelcruiser]

looks like you have an older model rebuild. It may be factory reman, but that’s not the updated version of the gear reduction.

All of the updated gear reductions look the way the one sent to me
From toyota does.

All the ones I’ve seen like what you posted aren’t shown as gear reduction.

What year is your cruiser?

 

[3_puppies]

if I understand correctly, the hole the starter fits into is larger than the bosses on the starter?
the starter should fit fairly snug in the hole.
question is what bellhousing did they use in Central America?

apparently it is working.

 

[cartelcruiser]

if I understand correctly, the hole the starter fits into is larger than the bosses on the starter?
the starter should fit fairly snug in the hole.
question is what bellhousing did they use in Central America?

apparently it is working.

The hole is the correct size. This is how this starter is made to fit in. The whole back-and-forth started because a few think the solenoid should be stuck on top instead of the bottom. If I rotate this starter around to show how they think it should be, then no it does not fit.

The same way that if they attempted to rotate theirs it wouldn’t work.