Single stage vs two stage and what is best for my use?

[AKFJ80]

I have read extensively however I was curious about the more modern single stage paints these days. My Cruiser was dropped off today for body work and rust repair and I still have time to decide on the paint.

I was wanting to go Dupont Imron however my body guy is saying any good polyurethane with a flex agent will stand up to similar abuse with easier application. I mean, they paint locomotives with that stuff and aircraft so I know it is good for a cruiser...

The other option was a PPG single stage system. Nothing extravagant, just the toyota 8nB blue.

My uses will be daily driver, weekend warrior and the occasional off road trail with the possability of pinstriping of course.

Do any of you have any pictures you are willing to share of a single stage job? Or even an advanced system like the Imron line from Dupont?

I would imagine the single stage is much easier to repair perchance there is any damage.

 

[77mustard40]

Here is my tub and rear quarters after sill replacement using PPG single malt, I mean stage. The color was so much richer than the original that I'm locked into doing the whole truck now. Just need to finish a couple of things to clear space in the garage, hoping to do a lot of the disassembly and prep to cut the cost.




Here is another shot

 

[AKFJ80]

Thanks Mustard that looks amazing actually...as if it is a polished two stage.

What sort of work will be involved keeping it that rich? Do you foresee more upkeep in contrast to a 2 stage job?

Single stage has come a long way.

 

[77mustard40]

Thanks Mustard that looks amazing actually...as if it is a polished two stage.

What sort of work will be involved keeping it that rich? Do you foresee more upkeep in contrast to a 2 stage job?

Single stage has come a long way.

I'm told it should be no more that the occational wax. The paint was not as opaque as expected when it went on so it took several shots to get the coverage, but I think that is part of what adds to the appearance. I took it to a custom shop around the corner and can find out what PPG single stage paint it is if you need it.

 

[AKFJ80]

I appreciate it. I spoke again with my painter and he sounds well versed on the PPG stuff so I think that is what we shall go with.

I will be sure to follow up this post with pictures of the before and after for anyone elses future reference.

 

[Gumby]

I'm going with a PPG single stage for both LVs. I have to price Omni vs. Deltron Concept.

 

[sparkplug]

We use Imron on yachts. It is my favorite paint out there. I'd say go for it.

 

[fj40mike]

nason single stage

I just sprayed Nason's Ful-Thane on my '78 40 and am pretty impressed with it. I've always used base/clear coats in the past, this is my first project with a single stage urethane. This stuff lays down easy and covers great.

hopefully the attached photo will load..

 

[Splangy]

I'm scratching my head as to why your paint guy recommended a flex additive to paint your FJ40 with.

 

[Gumby]

You gotta use it for the urethane bumpers.

You don't have urethane bumpers on your 40?

 

[coleman2347]

Just a couple of cents

Back in the mid 80's I was stationed with the Blue Angels, no big deal. However they used Pratt and Lambert Jet Glow exclusively. Ditisler tried to get them to switch and we got such lousey paint jobs not only did we have to repaint the planes but got rid of it. If I can get it, I'm gona use Jet Glow on my cruiser.

 

[AKFJ80]

Interesting, and thanks for the pic fj40mike.

He has not sprayed yet as we are still working on rust issues and some factory looking fender trimming. I can still change my mind which is good. I have been reading about the Imron from Dupont and it seems like some pretty amazing stuff. I think the hardest thing is conditions during application and as always the prep (universal for any coating of course)

I am not sure why a flex agent would be bad, I am well versed in the paint mixology world to be honest.

 

[coleman2347]

Check out Sherwin Williams Jet Glo...we used that on the Blue Angles Aircraft and not only does it paint well but stands up great...I have no idea if it can be mixed for original L/C colors..but it's great paint...

 

[Jetboy]

I painted my 40 with a Nason single stage in a non-factory yellow (actually Ford Lightning yellow). Took 7 coats to cover a light grey primer. Especially on the louvered vents. The darker factory yellows might be a lot better. It's also been very chip-prone.

If I had it to do over again, I would go with a base clear. I've been much happier with the base clear paints I've done on other projects. For a garage spray job, for me, the two stage paint systems are easier to get a high quality finish.