why doesnt Warn do a 10K version?
Since the 8274 is so good...
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If ya had a 10,000 pound truck you'd want more than a 10 or a 12 thousand pound winch. 
But to the original question... I have a friend who is an engineer for Warn. He told me an interesting story about why Warn raised the price of the 8274 so much a while back. They wanted to phase the winch out as it shares nothing with their other lines and the production line was in need of upgrade. They raised the prices thinking that it would shift the customers to their other products. Folks just paid more. So they raised the price again. Same result. One more time with no reduction in sales numbers and they wised up. Dropped half a mil into the production line upgrades and set back to make them as long as people would buy them.
Anyway, he also mentioned another fact. It really should be rated at 10,000 pounds when compared to any of the other 8-10 capacity winches on the market.
Mark...
But to the original question... I have a friend who is an engineer for Warn. He told me an interesting story about why Warn raised the price of the 8274 so much a while back. They wanted to phase the winch out as it shares nothing with their other lines and the production line was in need of upgrade. They raised the prices thinking that it would shift the customers to their other products. Folks just paid more. So they raised the price again. Same result. One more time with no reduction in sales numbers and they wised up. Dropped half a mil into the production line upgrades and set back to make them as long as people would buy them.
Anyway, he also mentioned another fact. It really should be rated at 10,000 pounds when compared to any of the other 8-10 capacity winches on the market.
Mark...
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Mark W said:Anyway, he also mentioned another fact. It really should be rated at 10,000 pounds when compared to any of the other 8-10 capacity winches on the market.
Mark...
Interesting. I have always like that winch of all the Warn winches and would love to plop one down on the front of my FJ60. But I always thought they are at the minimum rating for a loaded Wagon. Maybe not
Mark W said:If ya had a 10,000 pound truck you'd want more than a 10 or a 12 thousand pound winch.
But to the original question... I have a friend who is an engineer for Warn. He told me an interesting story about why Warn raised the price of the 8274 so much a while back. They wanted to phase the winch out as it shares nothing with their other lines and the production line was in need of upgrade. They raised the prices thinking that it would shift the customers to their other products. Folks just paid more. So they raised the price again. Same result. One more time with no reduction in sales numbers and they wised up. Dropped half a mil into the production line upgrades and set back to make them as long as people would buy them.
Anyway, he also mentioned another fact. It really should be rated at 10,000 pounds when compared to any of the other 8-10 capacity winches on the market.
Mark...
insider proof that warn sucks and is out of touch with the customer
They want to dump the only reason people like warn and replace it with what they want to sell.
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beaufort-fj60 said:They want to dump the only reason people like warn and replace it with what they want to sell.
LOL
I forgot about your experience stinkyfj60 said:LOL
warn:
lets dump this 8274, it's ugly and doesn't match my new jeepcustomer: man the price went up, wow they must of put some research in and updated this wonderful winch
warn:
I don't understand why people are buying this 8274 , it's so ugly and the chrome on my dually wheels clash with it.customer: man the price went up again, god warn is awesome, they really love us and put so much effort into this classic winch, somehow they improved it again, sure I'll pay more
warn:
WTF why are they buying this stupid old 8274 , raise the price again that'll teach them to not respect our new chromed out add-a-part winch holder damage multiplier with chrome accessories, stupid little fxxxtards.customer: wow, god I love warn, they are so dedicated to keeping this old style winch going, I'll love them forever
warn: fxxxit, well just make it in Tijuana with ex-donkey show employees. Hey Steve, did you see my new jeep chrome gas cover, it is so bad ass it matches my chrome radio antenna, cool maybe our new winch line will come with a chrome solenoid cover. [warn employee high five each other]
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lowenbrau
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For what its worth, the 8274 *is* a 15000 lb winch. It carries enough cable to reach just as far and pull just has hard and move just as slow as the planitary 15000. You just have to use a snach block.
My thoughts are the 8274 is not as profitable as a planetary. So through price increases (I still have a brand new one in the box that I bought in 1997 for somewhere in the $900 range) they are trying to switch us to the HD planetaty style.
This parallels where the rest of the world is moving, replacing a ideal refined product with a value engineered pile of crap for the same price.
the industry is doing the same thing to the worm gear winches, raising the price to corral the market into HD planetary.
I say we march on warn!
This parallels where the rest of the world is moving, replacing a ideal refined product with a value engineered pile of crap for the same price.
the industry is doing the same thing to the worm gear winches, raising the price to corral the market into HD planetary.
I say we march on warn!
I wish to this day i never sold my 8274 and got the XD9000i. Very bad decision.
I agree with Lowenbrau, only thing I would like to add is you can take the 8274 (Or, in my case, a Bellview, the company that Warn bought the design from - originally rated for 6000 lbs!), cut the drum in half, extend it 10 inches so the winch just fits inside of the framerails, and run 300 ft of 3/8 cable and a snatch block, or three. The fairlead is another story, I just made one out of two. Unfurling 300 ft of cable for a straight line pull is something to behold, so is running a triple and still spanning the usual winch length.
A widened bellview fed with 4/0 electrical cable, twin Caterpillar batteries, a dedicated ground line and water cooling is a monster to be reckoned with. Running a dedicated ground improved pulling strength immensely, as well as line speed.
I still think the 8274 is rated conservatively at 8000 lbs...
A widened bellview fed with 4/0 electrical cable, twin Caterpillar batteries, a dedicated ground line and water cooling is a monster to be reckoned with. Running a dedicated ground improved pulling strength immensely, as well as line speed.
I still think the 8274 is rated conservatively at 8000 lbs...
Beaufort!
That is REALLY FUNNY! But I think that maybe you wouldn't like my new chrome skid plate?
Got bling?
Rezarf <><
That is REALLY FUNNY! But I think that maybe you wouldn't like my new chrome skid plate?
Got bling?
Rezarf <><
If it is working and you can see it pull a truck under load, I would say that is a good deal. I would check the cable and housing for any signs of cracks or freying (?sp).
That is what I paid for mine, I got a seal kit to seal up the drum and resto'ed mine.
Rezarf <><
That is what I paid for mine, I got a seal kit to seal up the drum and resto'ed mine.
Rezarf <><
REZARF said:Beaufort!
That is REALLY FUNNY! But I think that maybe you wouldn't like my new chrome skid plate?
Got bling?
Rezarf <><
Chrome slides over stuff that Rustoleum Satin Black or POR will hang on.
Ed
Degnol said:Chrome slides over stuff that Rustoleum Satin Black or POR will hang on.
Ed
