Right now it's very dusty... We haven't had any rain in the last month or so. If you want to do any technical wheeling you've got to head east or north. Around the middle TN area it's mostly small mud trails and parks.How's the wheeling over in Nashville? I was there a couple months ago for a wedding wishing I knew some local 40 owners to go check out their rigs and maybe hit some of the local trails. Either that or go hunt down Ian Johnson and say hi
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I second that. Been following along on this build for a while and I believe you have a perfect mix of a sense of humor and fabrication skills. Even if others might not agree... Keep it up and I'm excited to see how this build turns out!
I am not sure what trolling I have done that has offended you. I do not intend to troll anyone, by troll I mean intentionally insulting an individual or talking negatively about a person or their ideas just to be hurtful. I do present counter arguments to produce insight and discussion, and if I feel strongly about a position will retain it even if it goes against popular opinion. However if it's not well received, I typically just excuse myself out of the conversation. I don't have any ill will against anybody or their projects, and I strive to conduct my comments to reflect that. If I have done otherwise, and have indeed been a troll or "trollish," please point out the time I did so-as of at this time I am not aware of doing so-and I will sincerely apologize as I do not wish to troll anyone.
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I've enjoyed a lot of the insight and work that's gone into this build. The body work in particular has been awesome, as I don't have the patience to work through body metal and make it pretty.
I still think you'd have been just as well served with a leaf spring suspension as you are with your links. The wheeling reflection you've given in your posts is of the "mild" variety, IMO, and links I think were more of a "because you wanted to" solution rather than something you needed to do (I do think the shipwreck could handle plenty a gnarly trail). I understand that type of thinking, and know you learned a hell of a lot through your endeavor. Keep up the work, because I'm constantly borrowing ideas from this, and many other threads.
I still think you'd have been just as well served with a leaf spring suspension as you are with your links. The wheeling reflection you've given in your posts is of the "mild" variety, IMO, and links I think were more of a "because you wanted to" solution rather than something you needed to do (I do think the shipwreck could handle plenty a gnarly trail). I understand that type of thinking, and know you learned a hell of a lot through your endeavor. Keep up the work, because I'm constantly borrowing ideas from this, and many other threads.
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I prefer snow wheeling above all else - but I think they'll close the trail early if it dumps too much. It opened late this year because of snow...
that said door fitting is not going well, fortunately? the top won't be here until at least next week.... today I learned 1972 hinges are different then 1971 hinges.... but it didn't solve all the problems, part of me wonders if the 64 top has different dimensions.
that said door fitting is not going well, fortunately? the top won't be here until at least next week.... today I learned 1972 hinges are different then 1971 hinges.... but it didn't solve all the problems, part of me wonders if the 64 top has different dimensions.
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I know what you're saying and why... but there's a lot more wheeling that came from well before I posted that would change your mind.
- right now, I'm wheeling my daily driver. I don't dare pound on it for aesthetic reasons and for breakage issues. I've already replaced the entire front suspension including the differential in my H3 along with the transfer case. I have neither the time nor the budget to do it again.
- this is a toy, nothing more, nothing less.... a very nice looking toy that I will play with for a long time. I've wanted to build this exact vehicle since my first '40 in 1989.... stars aligned, and I did....
- I'm not even close to the point where I consider this reliable. Heck, I've been through 3 ignition modules and have no clue as to why they keep blowing. Sure, it could be bad luck or infamous Chinese quality (though 2 were made in the usa... though I'm not sure whether it was the box or the module) - but at this point, I don't know (and there is a list back a few pages after the first trip to Walker of all the things I needed to do).
- as for pushing it, I will. but it's not my style to go bounce off rocks the first time out and do stupid breakage (easily avoided breakage).
- links were because it rides light-years better the springs.... what's funny is I do agree with you on a certain level. Steve, in his well-sorted '40, was getting beat up while I was drinking a coke following along, playing with the radio, chatting with a friend - it seemed almost too easy. Part of the fun of off-road is overcoming trail and vehicle limitations... this one raised the bar on what's possible and it is better then I hoped it would be.
- and I do like having nice things - I've had trucks with honestly-earned bullet holes and panels of bondo that fell off while blowing down the highway (because the skin had rusted away). It is fun, people get out of your way, but it isn't me.
- and finally, I turn 50 this year, I can no longer explain stupid damage as the enthusiasm of youth.
as for links - a good example right there - no one has yet explained to me why whatever aspect of the build bothers them so much. it's my money, it's my vehicle, it's my time posting about my build... why does it bother you all so much? it seriously doesn't make any sense. I'm not clubbing seals, not taking their selling their children.... why is this so personal to all of you? anywhere else but on Pirate or here would someone be so rude as to even go there. Sure, you can ask, but no one just leaves it after asking. That is the issue that sends my blood pressure up....
then we get people here telling me that they've judged that I'm wrong.... really? who appointed them judge? better yet, what qualifies them?
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re-read what I said again. you said things that made me cringe a few times, and that was the point. nothing more. I appreciate that here, no one resorted to name-calling.
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I can just hear the Dear Abby.
Dear Abby,
There is this guy who is building his 4x4 all wrong. It's not dangerous, but it's not the way I would build it. I told him this and he was nice the first time, the second time he patiently explained all of his reasoning, I told him he was a fag for not listening to me then he got rude to me. The Moderator was already rude to him, so I clearly had the right to question his sexual orientation. What's his problem?
Just sign me,
Lost at Sea
Dear Lost at Sea,
You really need to see a doctor because your nose is so far up into someone else's business that it's a miracle you don't have jaundice. I suggest you butt out (pun intended) and enjoy watching someone else's take on a build.
Abby.
Dear Abby,
There is this guy who is building his 4x4 all wrong. It's not dangerous, but it's not the way I would build it. I told him this and he was nice the first time, the second time he patiently explained all of his reasoning, I told him he was a fag for not listening to me then he got rude to me. The Moderator was already rude to him, so I clearly had the right to question his sexual orientation. What's his problem?
Just sign me,
Lost at Sea
Dear Lost at Sea,
You really need to see a doctor because your nose is so far up into someone else's business that it's a miracle you don't have jaundice. I suggest you butt out (pun intended) and enjoy watching someone else's take on a build.
Abby.
Yes you said I have made you cringe due to trolling comments. I am offering to apologize for those comments. If you direct me to what comment or comments your referring to, then I will try to make amends for such comments or correct a misunderstanding if one was made. There are a large number of members on this forum, to select me out of the hundreds or thousands whatever the amount is, there must be some specific thing that your thinking about that has left myself painted in such a negative light compared to all the other members. As to what that is- I don't know unless you bring it to my attention.
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Let me get this straight - you wonder why I cringe when you comment on something I said. If you could see me cringe - you'd see it now. So let's play this out. I give you examples, then what?
Your penchant for correcting something I say when - especially when - your 'correction' has little or nothing to do with whatever I said is what has learned me to cringe. To be sure, you won't ever agree with me - so yes, I cringe when you comment because I know it's not going to be uplifting.
Do I need to look them up? nope. You just provided me with yet another example.
It does blow me away that so many find me so dangerous to their world. After all, why else would they be so rude?
Your penchant for correcting something I say when - especially when - your 'correction' has little or nothing to do with whatever I said is what has learned me to cringe. To be sure, you won't ever agree with me - so yes, I cringe when you comment because I know it's not going to be uplifting.
Do I need to look them up? nope. You just provided me with yet another example.
It does blow me away that so many find me so dangerous to their world. After all, why else would they be so rude?
Let me get this straight - you wonder why I cringe when you comment on something I said.
Yes
If you could see me cringe - you'd see it now. So let's play this out. I give you examples, then what?
Then I would appologize and strive to not offend you. I strive to not be offensive. In other words, just trying to be a nice person here on the forum.
Your penchant for correcting something I say when - especially when - your 'correction' has little or nothing to do with whatever I said is what has learned me to cringe.
OK I have no recollection of doing this. So without an example, I don't know what comments your talking about. I believe the only times I've commented in your thread were throwing ideas out their or talking up your work.
To be sure, you won't ever agree with me - so yes, I cringe when you comment because I know it's not going to be uplifting.
I still don't know where or how you reach this conclusion. I think it's great you linked your 40, and are enjoying the results. Their are other aspects of it that are great too. I wish I could link my 40, but I don't have the ability. But you do, and hey good for you man. I'm sure it handles great.
Do I need to look them up? nope. You just provided me with yet another example.
I just wrote you a message above in as civil as I possibly can to 1. See specifically what I've said to offend you, 2. Examine what your response is of said action or actions and strive not to offend you again.
If that makes you cringe-I just don't understand. I'm trying to smooth things over and that makes you Cringe? I guess I'm not connecting the dots here. But hey, it's not the first time I haven't been able to do that. Anyway, just trying to be civil, no intention of causing greater offense by my comments. But by not citing any examples, I have no idea if your getting me confused with someone else, or if it's legit, or if it's dreamed up.Anyway I tried.
I'll just leave u be. Happy trails
It does blow me away that so many find me so dangerous to their world. After all, why else would they be so rude?
Yes
If you could see me cringe - you'd see it now. So let's play this out. I give you examples, then what?
Then I would appologize and strive to not offend you. I strive to not be offensive. In other words, just trying to be a nice person here on the forum.
Your penchant for correcting something I say when - especially when - your 'correction' has little or nothing to do with whatever I said is what has learned me to cringe.
OK I have no recollection of doing this. So without an example, I don't know what comments your talking about. I believe the only times I've commented in your thread were throwing ideas out their or talking up your work.
To be sure, you won't ever agree with me - so yes, I cringe when you comment because I know it's not going to be uplifting.
I still don't know where or how you reach this conclusion. I think it's great you linked your 40, and are enjoying the results. Their are other aspects of it that are great too. I wish I could link my 40, but I don't have the ability. But you do, and hey good for you man. I'm sure it handles great.
Do I need to look them up? nope. You just provided me with yet another example.
I just wrote you a message above in as civil as I possibly can to 1. See specifically what I've said to offend you, 2. Examine what your response is of said action or actions and strive not to offend you again.
If that makes you cringe-I just don't understand. I'm trying to smooth things over and that makes you Cringe? I guess I'm not connecting the dots here. But hey, it's not the first time I haven't been able to do that. Anyway, just trying to be civil, no intention of causing greater offense by my comments. But by not citing any examples, I have no idea if your getting me confused with someone else, or if it's legit, or if it's dreamed up.Anyway I tried.
I'll just leave u be. Happy trails
It does blow me away that so many find me so dangerous to their world. After all, why else would they be so rude?
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Funny, I didn't go outside of this little corner to express my opinion. No banners were posted, no hot-links putting names in lights, just me telling people that if they want me to continue posting on this build that they must be nice.
the horror of it all.
Read Eccl 7:21
the horror of it all.
Read Eccl 7:21
Jeremiah 9:23 my friend.
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lol - you do bring up an interesting dilemma, according to the verse you just posted any post I do where I win over a challenge, I'm boasting - so do I take this as you are voting that I continue my abstinence of posting progress pictures?
And while that's an interesting verse - how does that relate to my admonition to not seek out what others think of you? In the post he got upset about, I was telling people to be nice... I shouldn't? And what was the context of that verse? the Bible can be twisted to say all manner of things - so tell me how you see its relation to the issue of people not being nice.
I was going to go on and ask about some thoughts on a how to resolve an important issue with my '40.... but now, it sounds like I should ask somewhere else about how to get my mastiff in my '40. After all, I would be carrying an idol (the mastiff) and boasting about it by seeking how to transport him.... whew, thanks though. I dodged a bullet. By not posting the progress on the doors, we don't have to worry about me violating that rule - after all, the whole point of full doors was to keep him from jumping out.
And while that's an interesting verse - how does that relate to my admonition to not seek out what others think of you? In the post he got upset about, I was telling people to be nice... I shouldn't? And what was the context of that verse? the Bible can be twisted to say all manner of things - so tell me how you see its relation to the issue of people not being nice.
I was going to go on and ask about some thoughts on a how to resolve an important issue with my '40.... but now, it sounds like I should ask somewhere else about how to get my mastiff in my '40. After all, I would be carrying an idol (the mastiff) and boasting about it by seeking how to transport him.... whew, thanks though. I dodged a bullet. By not posting the progress on the doors, we don't have to worry about me violating that rule - after all, the whole point of full doors was to keep him from jumping out.
Wow... I think everyone (including me, unfortunately) needs a little Romans 12:17 and 14:19, and some Eph. 4:30-32, and Titus 3:2, and some Phil 2:3...
Why? Because 1 Cor 10:32.
I think we all need to cut the crap and go back to a great build. Backhanded / barbed / cruel / etc remarks are taking away from it.
Why? Because 1 Cor 10:32.
I think we all need to cut the crap and go back to a great build. Backhanded / barbed / cruel / etc remarks are taking away from it.
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hear hear.
but quite frankly, I'm done enforcing this - if you enjoy the thread when someone decides to deride - it's up to you. From here on out, I simply stop posting. No warning, no explanation.... simply I go away - wouldn't want to be the wolf John 10:12.
Don't miss the next exciting episode of "As The 40 Turns" where the moderators of Pirate attack in droves. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. (cut to a screen of static snow)
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lol
I would have done this update last night, but was too busy getting ready for the blow that didn't really happen.
installed the door stop (and removed it later) - also bored a hole to fix the broken bolt
fixed then covered said hole
I think I know why they cut that ... laziness
better
unlike the seemingly normal trend of it all being a challenge, passenger side fit the first time - which suggested to me that the driver's side just needed a bit more adjusting
the sense was correct....
started assembly of the half doors
never have enough body hammers - these were $40, and are quite comparable to the ones that cost $90/each. I know, I have one that cost $90 25 years ago.
Love my Stihl, fortunately its workout didn't happen yesterday (yay) but it's sharpened, filtered, and cleaned for action (I used it a couple weeks ago and hadn't had a chance to make it ready)..
next up is a door stand - though for right now, this will work so i can weld the top rails together
these will be installed
I would have done this update last night, but was too busy getting ready for the blow that didn't really happen.
installed the door stop (and removed it later) - also bored a hole to fix the broken bolt
fixed then covered said hole
I think I know why they cut that ... laziness
better
unlike the seemingly normal trend of it all being a challenge, passenger side fit the first time - which suggested to me that the driver's side just needed a bit more adjusting
the sense was correct....
started assembly of the half doors
never have enough body hammers - these were $40, and are quite comparable to the ones that cost $90/each. I know, I have one that cost $90 25 years ago.
Love my Stihl, fortunately its workout didn't happen yesterday (yay) but it's sharpened, filtered, and cleaned for action (I used it a couple weeks ago and hadn't had a chance to make it ready)..
next up is a door stand - though for right now, this will work so i can weld the top rails together
these will be installed
You should just clearcoat the doors... Bling bling!