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[KlausVanWinkle]

The sensor is the easy part, the reluctor ring would be a bit more challenging. Does anybody know if it has the same pulse as the 80 system?

I thought the 100 wms was wider than that.

I'm pretty sure it is. Closer to 69".

It might be cheaper to just buy an 80 and pull out the axles, coil buckets, steering box etc.

Well this explains some things, " the front will use a custom made housing with an 80 rear diff installed. The 80 series balls will be grafted on the housing and 80 knuckles will be used with a Hi-steer system. Hubs will be from an OZ spec 105 so as to keep the same stud pattern front and rear."

I like how rusty that 100 is. Yet they're still willing to put this much work into it.

 

[jgray]

The build started in the link below was never finished or at least wasn't documented if it was... It has been linked to before in previous SAS threads - the guy working on it took another job and left the county IIRC... Who knows... I've seen some huge SAS'd 100's in Russia and Iceland running 40+" tires...

http://www.landcruiserclub.net/forums/showthread.php/42125-SAS-100-SERIES

 

[serenity]

^ The general consensus here seems to be that a 80 Series 8" front diff isn't sufficient for this swap...

It could be done with a 80 Series front diff but even before this thread was started and when I looked into this previously I eliminated the 80 front axle option possibility from my option considerations...

Not sure if one of these has been done in the USA but here is a kit using a 80 Series axle:

http://extremelandcruiser.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=96&products_id=216

Wow, those lower control arm mounts are guaranteed rock finders!

How much would a long arm IFS kit cost? They are available for the FJC why not a 100?

 

[Delancy]

Why run coils if linking?

Coil overs make better sense if articulation is the goal.

If limiting to a degree that 80 coils would, 80 radius arms, even if flipped to the top of the housing, would suffice....and they're cheaper than links.

 

[yotasavg]

I was wondering that as well. The article above states that Slee knew in the blueberry build that it wouldn't flex as much as possible, due to the setup they proposed and for the reason the built it the way they did. RockJock said he doesn't like coilovers, so I guess he won't be the one, but it definitely seems like the 3 or 4 link and coilover route would be a good one to try.

I know this isn't the thread for it, but I'd also be in the camp that prefers a long travel IFS system for what I'd be doing with a truck this size.

 

[RockJock82]

I was wondering that as well. The article above states that Slee knew in the blueberry build that it wouldn't flex as much as possible, due to the setup they proposed and for the reason the built it the way they did. RockJock said he doesn't like coilovers, so I guess he won't be the one, but it definitely seems like the 3 or 4 link and coilover route would be a good one to try. I know this isn't the thread for it, but I'd also be in the camp that prefers a long travel IFS system for what I'd be doing with a truck this size.

After looking at that xterra coilovers don't seem like a bad idea...

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[Toyoland66]

^ The general consensus here seems to be that a 80 Series 8" front diff isn't sufficient for this swap...

It could be done with a 80 Series front diff but even before this thread was started and when I looked into this previously I eliminated the 80 front axle option possibility from my option considerations...

Custom housing, 9.5" Diff with 80 birfs & knuckles etc, custom inners to get the width you want. Like what Slee did but with a 9.5" diff instead of a ($$$) Hi-9

Why run coils if linking?

Coil overs make better sense if articulation is the goal.

If limiting to a degree that 80 coils would, 80 radius arms, even if flipped to the top of the housing, would suffice....and they're cheaper than links.

I said coils for a few reasons
-cost
-simplicity & ease of replacement
-frame to coil to tire clearance

For the intent of this sort of build I didn't think max articulation was a goal. I said links over radius arms because they can be built with better geometry. Radius arms would be easier to package.

 

[Dirtgypsy]

If you were closer to Portland I would join you in this build. I think its a great idea and needs to be done. You can gain some width with a 6 to 5 lug adapter and just run an 80 axle. Save you $500 plus in 105 hubs.

Clint

 

[OGBeno]

If you were closer to Portland I would join you in this build. I think its a great idea and needs to be done. You can gain some width with a 6 to 5 lug adapter and just run an 80 axle. Save you $500 plus in 105 hubs.

Clint

Yup.

And do t have to worry about non-US parts and still keep it Toyota.

 

[Nottajeep]

I guess unless you have a point to prove, you can pick up a locked 80 for </= the price of this SAS and then you have two awesome rides.

 

[RockJock82]

I guess unless you have a point to prove, you can pick up a locked 80 for </= the price of this SAS and then you have two awesome rides.

I already own a locked LX450.

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[sleeoffroad]

5 to 6 lug adapters does not exist. As foot not using a high pinion diff, you can but then you have to figure out steering if you want to run 80 knuckles

 

[Toyoland66]

Steering: Y-link, RHD steering arm, re-taper for 1ton TRE's
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/YLINK.html

Did you guys convert the front axle to 5 lug? Can the hubs be sourced from Toyota?

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

If you were closer to Portland I would join you in this build. I think its a great idea and needs to be done. You can gain some width with a 6 to 5 lug adapter and just run an 80 axle. Save you $500 plus in 105 hubs.

Clint

5 to 6 lug adapters does not exist. As foot not using a high pinion diff, you can but then you have to figure out steering if you want to run 80 knuckles

These guys claim to make both 5x150-6x5.5 and 6x5.5-5x150

http://shop.adapterkings.com/

 

[spressomon]

Don't think adapters would solve anything...the space is needed on the inside, for the coil, not the outside...

Not sure about today but CDan & Onur used to be able to source 105 outers...$450ea IIRC

 

[Dirtgypsy]

What about 80 series high steer. Seems like I remember reading there was someone making arms?

Clint

 

[mattafact]

What about 80 series high steer. Seems like I remember reading there was someone making arms?

Clint

Hellfire knuckles.

 

[Dirtgypsy]

So does the 105 have a different frame? I thought it was the same and just used an 80 housing?

Clint

 

[spressomon]

The 105-Series chassis/frame is essentially the same as the 80-Series...

http://www.toyota.com.kw/English/to...er/history/html/history/models/model_100.html

 

[sleeoffroad]

These guys claim to make both 5x150-6x5.5 and 6x5.5-5x150

http://shop.adapterkings.com/

I have never seen one. When we checked into that the patterns overlapped and would not work. There are some 5 to 6 lug, but not on the 100 series bolt circle. Might be wrong.