Saginaw Conversion Steering Gear Box (1 Viewer)

[Ranger Jeff]

Having a heck of a time finding someone that has a remanufactured 4 bolt, 4.25 turn gear box in stock (no luck @ local NAPA, Autozone & O'reilly's ... or at least their help can't find one). Anybody buy one very recently and if so from whom and part # please?

Thanks

 

[Steamer]

This is a 4 bolt 4.25 turn box from Napa. It's a straight, keyed shaft and still shows available at Napa.
"LINK"

 

[pb4ugo]

This is a 4 bolt 4.25 turn box from Napa. It's a straight, keyed shaft and still shows available at Napa.
"LINK"

That's a link to a pump.

 

[Downey]

Why not try a 3.5 turn Sag box, they actually have a better gear ratio- - -you'll still have power steering, but won't have the mushy road feel.

 

[Ranger Jeff]

Why not try a 3.5 turn Sag box, they actually have a better gear ratio- - -you'll still have power steering, but won't have the mushy road feel.

I'm definitely considering a 3.5 turn. Others have also said they like this setup. But, I'm also having trouble finding a 3.5 turn with 4 bolt mount.

 

[pjohnson]

There's a thread specific to this question, but I can't find it. You could call Georg at Valley Hybrids/Cruiser brothers (650) 576-2023

FAQ
Saginaw power steering FAQ...

Here is what I found on Googley.
Advance Auto Parts - Down for Maintenance

 

[Steamer]

That's a link to a pump.

Ahhh! Dummy me. Sorry.

The 4 bolt 4.25 "box" I have is from Napa and is for a 1969 chevy Bel-air. I took a mini pair of vise grips with me to count the turns. I've heard you never know what they'll put up on the counter.
"Napa Box Link"

 

[AlaskanWheeler]

Google 27-6537 gear box

 

[Ranger Jeff]

There's a thread specific to this question, but I can't find it. You could call Georg at Valley Hybrids/Cruiser brothers (650) 576-2023

FAQ
Saginaw power steering FAQ...

Here is what I found on Googley.
Advance Auto Parts - Down for Maintenance

Thanks. I'm getting the pump and mount and hoses from George. He's been awesome to talk to (actually replied to me from Australia! ) and provided other part numbers. Just didn't reply to the gear question (but I know he's crazy busy).

 

[Ranger Jeff]

Ahhh! Dummy me. Sorry.

The 4 bolt 4.25 "box" I have is from Napa and is for a 1969 chevy Bel-air. I took a mini pair of vise grips with me to count the turns. I've heard you never know what they'll put up on the counter.
"Napa Box Link"

Thanks. They tell me out of stock and can't get.

 

[Ranger Jeff]

Google 27-6537 gear box

This is a great lead and looks like it will do the trick! Thank you!!

 

[UZJ40]

I recently had issues with my Saginaw box. The lack of information, and the amount of bad information on the internet about different Saginaw box specs is extremely surprising and frustrating. I went to 3-4 different auto parts stores locally, and literally opened up their steering gear boxes to try and find what I was looking for. I needed a 4 bolt, 4 turn, flare fitting, 13/16" input. I had no luck finding that combo.

Finally, a light bulb came on and I called @orangefj45 and got a NAPA part # from him. I can't believe I didn't do that earlier! I went that day and picked one up locally. Everything about it was perfect. I can't believe it took me so long to find it, or realize I should have called Georg earlier, but oh well.

Ended up with NAPA part # 39-1079. It was around $120.

 

[Downey]

I don't guess I'd worry too much about a 3 bolt or 4 bolt mounted box, truth is on the older GM vehicles that had a 4 bolt box GM only used 3 of the 4 bolts to mount the box, and on the newer boxes- - -they only have 3 bolt mounting

 

[peesalot]

Ranger Jeff, be aware that the cardone 27-6537 number yields the box you want, however, if you want the same box with a larger piston, otherwise identical you order #27-6529. Rock Auto shows them for $109.

 

[peesalot]

If you can't find one, I have a new in box ( well new under seat) 27-6537 box that I got for a trail spare that could come your way. I do not think you will have too much trouble finding a 27-6529 though.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

We spec and use the 6537 or 6529 for our PS install kits. They ship with a list or part numbers for the box, pumps, belts, pulleys, etc that we try and keep up to date. Fwiw the Napa 39-1079 is a 3.5 turn box. The 6537 and 27 boxes should be 4.25 but can come with a different ratio, bring a flange or vise grips to the parts store when you pickup to check. Having driven Cruisers with both ratios, I prefer the 4.25 particularly on larger rigs.

 

[Ranger Jeff]

So to conclude my question and THANK everyone for the fast input ... NAPA is still no stock. I ordered 27-6529 from Rockauto and received in 2 days. Confirming it is a 4 bolt 4.25 turn box and matches up with the 4x4 Labs mounting plates and Flaming River splined steering universal FLA-FR1719DD perfectly.

 

[pbgbottle]

I like the 2.5 turn box myself. Steering is nice and tight
The 3.5 - 4 turn box’s feel’s Like I’m floating all over the road.
Am I the only one still runnnig the close ratio box, lol

 

[greenbeasty]

@pbgbottle , do you have a part # for the 2.5 box? I hate that video game feel of 4.25.

 

[pbgbottle]

No sorry ,
all I have in my notes from 10-15 years ago was too look for one from
A 67-76 Camaro or firebird
64-76 Chevelle
70-76 Monte Carlo
All boxes suppose to be 4 bolt and close ratio 12.7:1. Or 2.5 to 3 turn box

@pbgbottle , do you have a part # for the 2.5 box? I hate that video game feel of 4.25.