Any tips for used? options etc?
Any diags i can look up in menu to see if it was left at 100% for months?
Rivian R1S vs LC thoughts? (3 Viewers)
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Any tips for used? options etc?
Any diags i can look up in menu to see if it was left at 100% for months?
This is just not true. I’m in Alaska, we got our first super chargers in the state this past summer and I’ve had 2 Teslas over the last going on 9 years. We have almost no charging infrastructure and a ton of EVs up here. There are times I’m at an intersection and EVs outnumber ICEs.
If I needed to stay with in a $500 payment or under $30k, I guess I’d look at a used Rav4 or a Mazda cx-50.
Def not doing this for no environmental fallacies. There is a point to electricity generation at scale, vs ICE micro / macro argument.
But yeah, its a bit early for batteries to be considered "clean".
We lost electricity for a few days (almost city wide$ a couple years back (7.2 quake). No one could get gas but I could charge my Tesla just fine off my 7.5kw of solar on my house.
This might make more sense, $7,500 cred covers the TX sales tax, and this will be a written off too, purely business use.
Wonder what current interest can be had for new financing?
I can see myself owning an EV at some point but not right now. My thoughts are to wait for the bugs to be worked out, more manufacturers to adopt, and infrastructure to bloom before talking the plunge.
Thing is I have shifted my mindset to be a bit more environmentally conscious but it’s along the lines of what Rich Rebuilds said in the introduction of his R1T video. I recycle at home, I use my own bags when making a grocery store or Target run. As for water I have not bought bottled water in bulk for a couple of years now, rather just use a filter at home. I also made the decision to live in a townhome rather than have some big ass yard that needs watering and maintenance. I am a big advocate for cycling as I ride both road and MTB and would love to see more bike lanes built for transportation. I also walk when I can rather than drive or ride my bike. Oh and I haven’t yet (and at this point don’t plan to) have children. That’s more of a personal/lifestyle choice but I also recognize we simply have too many people living on this ball of rock floating around in the middle of space and I’m just trying to do my part to keep it a pleasant place to live for as long as I possibly can.
Thing is I have shifted my mindset to be a bit more environmentally conscious but it’s along the lines of what Rich Rebuilds said in the introduction of his R1T video. I recycle at home, I use my own bags when making a grocery store or Target run. As for water I have not bought bottled water in bulk for a couple of years now, rather just use a filter at home. I also made the decision to live in a townhome rather than have some big ass yard that needs watering and maintenance. I am a big advocate for cycling as I ride both road and MTB and would love to see more bike lanes built for transportation. I also walk when I can rather than drive or ride my bike. Oh and I haven’t yet (and at this point don’t plan to) have children. That’s more of a personal/lifestyle choice but I also recognize we simply have too many people living on this ball of rock floating around in the middle of space and I’m just trying to do my part to keep it a pleasant place to live for as long as I possibly can.
They are literally selling like hot cakes right now because of the fed credit for those that qualify. I expect Tesla to increase prices on both the 3 and Y by end of week another 500-1k as order climb.
A lot of things can be done for sure. We used to live in Portland “Pearl district“ for a short time before we had kids “19yrs ago“ and owned a “white bmw 330ci”car as we lived in a warehouse Loft with a single car garage that we rented. Sure wish we bought it back then. Big money today…well maybe, seems like the area has gone to poo. It was glorious when we lived there. Low crime and everyon was out and about enjoying life. We took the street car for everything we needed “shopping, restaurant, hospital(wife worked there) parks and I think we used our car maybe once every two weeks. We also used to live in Seattle “Greenlake” and thats changed for the worse. I would love to live in the city again, but crime has gotten so bad in cities that seemed to have it all, now it’s overrun with needle users, etc. We have lived all over the West Coast and then moved east to Colorado and it seems all that garbage we try to escape from just follows us. Not sure where I was going with this but memory lane reared it’s way into my comment.I can see myself owning an EV at some point but not right now. My thoughts are to wait for the bugs to be worked out, more manufacturers to adopt, and infrastructure to bloom before talking the plunge.
Thing is I have shifted my mindset to be a bit more environmentally conscious but it’s along the lines of what Rich Rebuilds said in the introduction of his R1T video. I recycle at home, I use my own bags when making a grocery store or Target run. As for water I have not bought bottled water in bulk for a couple of years now, rather just use a filter at home. I also made the decision to live in a townhome rather than have some big ass yard that needs watering and maintenance. I am a big advocate for cycling as I ride both road and MTB and would love to see more bike lanes built for transportation. I also walk when I can rather than drive or ride my bike. Oh and I haven’t yet (and at this point don’t plan to) have children. That’s more of a personal/lifestyle choice but I also recognize we simply have too many people living on this ball of rock floating around in the middle of space and I’m just trying to do my part to keep it a pleasant place to live for as long as I possibly can.
I think many folks like myself are sear out Evs more for the ease of use and low maintenance. The biggest benefits for us, is being able to turn on the AC/heater whenever before getting in, our dog can stay in the car if we need to step into the store “dog mode” and with Tesla I can actually see my dog in the car from my phone. Before I forget, having an EV really allows the music to shine, cuts out the engine noises. Still, I like hearing from other Tesla owners they haven’t needed to change breaks for 100k Miles.
May i introduce you to Austin, TX?
The smallest s***tiest 20 terminal airport having podunk town in america with EVERY big city problem imaginable at California prices?
Always loopholes! We don’t qualify but it really makes the Tesla a great buy for the price right now.
We were in Austin 8or10yrs ago and it wasn’t that bad. I’ve heard from our friends who live there said they don’t even recognize from the time we visited. They moved out of the city to Circle C ranch and love it there.
IMO, the value of a Tesla is for the new owner. With tax benefits, warranty, high residuals.
Just the opposite from an LC.
@Madtiger. “Toys out front like a schoolyard”
This song is a vibe, dont hate! This aint no lexus jaguar!!!
This, this right here, is exactly why aliens will not visit us.
In that case can we petition to nominate Riff-Raff for the Nobel Peace Prize?
I can see myself owning an EV at some point but not right now. My thoughts are to wait for the bugs to be worked out, more manufacturers to adopt, and infrastructure to bloom before talking the plunge.
Thing is I have shifted my mindset to be a bit more environmentally conscious but it’s along the lines of what Rich Rebuilds said in the introduction of his R1T video. I recycle at home, I use my own bags when making a grocery store or Target run. As for water I have not bought bottled water in bulk for a couple of years now, rather just use a filter at home. I also made the decision to live in a townhome rather than have some big ass yard that needs watering and maintenance. I am a big advocate for cycling as I ride both road and MTB and would love to see more bike lanes built for transportation. I also walk when I can rather than drive or ride my bike. Oh and I haven’t yet (and at this point don’t plan to) have children. That’s more of a personal/lifestyle choice but I also recognize we simply have too many people living on this ball of rock floating around in the middle of space and I’m just trying to do my part to keep it a pleasant place to live for as long as I possibly can.
We decided against having kids as well. I feel torn about it, I see us as prime candidates for procreating, we both have graduate degrees, we are fiscally responsible and have respectable incomes, we have good morals and are law abiding citizens, etc. etc. etc. I see what is outbreeding us 10:1 all around us on a daily basis and it's terrifying. Beyond personal bloodline continuation I almost feel responsible to reproduce simply to help tip the scales in the other direction against the mindless mouth breathers that are placing an insane draw on society now and for many generations to come. But I realize that we really can't do much to combat what is already in the works, and even with our genetic DNA and proper schooling, morals, etc. there's still no guarantee that our own offspring would be anything more than average. It's pretty depressing when you think about it and we've decided not to add to the strain on the system and our own personal finances and desires by adding another mouth to the planet. Some would say that our decision not to reproduce only furthers the downward spiral and that's true, but it's the choice we've made and I can live with that.
There's a giant glaring theme with all of these failed places that were once amazing, I don't need to say anything more as we all know the root issue and cause and it'll likely lead to the ban hammer if I go into any further detail. That said, we can only run to other places so many times before the cancer follows everywhere and spreads to all corners of the country. I fear we are very close to that ultimate downward spiral in many ways. I used to throughly enjoy living on the west coast and visiting annually but these days I do my best to limit my travel to the left coast.
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So very false based on my experience.
I got my car for $24,000 after state and federal tax rebates. That's the price of a new civic. I drive a lot of miles for work and I have saved an average of $150-200 per month in fuel costs. That's compared to V6 acura TL and lexus IS, not gas guzzlers. When I do my taxes every year, I can write off about $6,000 in mileage. Now, I could have written off that mileage in an ICE car, but I would have had actual expenses in an ICE car, I have not paid a dime in maintenance, scheduled or otherwise, aside from tires. In my use case (a business vehicle for self-employed/independent contractor), the car has quite literally paid me back what I spent on it in tax, fuel and maintenance savings over the course of 4 years. And I could sell it today for nearly what I bought it for.
:edit: I guess the math is a lot different for a Rivian or a Hummer, but for a commute-o-box, the model 3 has been a major money saver.
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That's a good point. Most preppers hedge the apocalyptic and not the temporary disruption. Though, even with 7.5kw (probably max?) that would take 12 hours for a full charge of a SUV EV. And that's with no house-hold use competing for electrical demand. And assuming the event allows you to stay at home where you could re-charge as required. Typically with long-term disruptions you also start having problems with other necessities such as water which push you to travel. Then there would be the complete failure of charge points if all EVs were traveling the same direction out of Dodge.
War, terrorist acts, EMP, solar flares, etc. favor toward simplistic compression-ignition ICE systems. A claw hammer, crescent wrench, and a bucket and every vehicle on the side of the road becomes a fuel station to a multi-fuel deuce.
OTHO, the Lightning and it's ability to have high-current back feed into the house is an interesting proposition for mitigating temporary power losses. More power and less expensive than an equivalent Battery Wall. Plus it rolls.
There will always be a specific use case that goes against the average, but in general a graphic similar to the below is the most common. And while artificial price manipulations by the government may temporarily help a market segment, they are fickle and unsustainable. You can also sell most other in-demand vehicles currently for close to their original price.
I don't pretend to be an expert on the topic, and I only have my own experience to pull from, but the math in that graphic just doesn't compute to me. If fuel costs less, maintenance costs less, how can the long term cost be more? Are we comparing a $30k Accord to a $55k Polestar 2 here?
And I agree that tax credits and government manipulation shouldn't be relied on. But even if I didn't get the tax rebates I described in my post above, my car would have paid me back around two thirds of the purchase price based on fuel, maintenance and non-rebate tax savings. And yeah, I guess most people work for the man and can't write off their mileage. That honestly has been the biggest money savings in my use case. But even without it, I don't see how near-ZERO maintenance and CHEAPER fuel cost more over (any length of) time?
