Puma 12V Compressor

[titanpat57]

After much thought, and realizing the room inside the 4Runner is extremely limited, I have been really leaning towards mounting it in an aluminum shroud (lying sideways) where the spare tire gets mounted under the truck. Any issues laying it sideways?

I also think I would have enough room for a stainless steel water bladder, possibly to hold 5-6 gallons.

Thank you to date for the help and input.

Thoughts on mounting it under the truck...but tucked up in and protected?

Pat

 

[canman]

I had a hose made last night and got my DC5000 running this morning. I had the original spare lying around (Michelin LTX 275/75R/16), and pulled the valve stem to empty it and see how long it took to fill her back up. Running on just my aux battery (no engine running) it took the following:

1st minute = 10 psi
2nd minute = 18 psi
3rd minute = 24 psi
4th minute = 28 psi
4.5 minute = 34 psi

Not sure if this good, bad or ugly but thought I would share...

 

[Bogo]

After much thought, and realizing the room inside the 4Runner is extremely limited, I have been really leaning towards mounting it in an aluminum shroud (lying sideways) where the spare tire gets mounted under the truck. Any issues laying it sideways?

I also think I would have enough room for a stainless steel water bladder, possibly to hold 5-6 gallons.

I don't think you'll need to lay it sideways. Make a hinged rack it can go on with its protective box, box must be ventilated. On that rack you should also be able to put two 5 gallon jerry cans on their sides. A fixed water tank could be up to 15ish gallons with the Puma air compressor there.

 

[Tools R Us]

I had a hose made last night and got my DC5000 running this morning. I had the original spare lying around (Michelin LTX 275/75R/16), and pulled the valve stem to empty it and see how long it took to fill her back up. Running on just my aux battery (no engine running) it took the following:

1st minute = 10 psi
2nd minute = 18 psi
3rd minute = 24 psi
4th minute = 28 psi
4.5 minute = 34 psi

Not sure if this good, bad or ugly but thought I would share...

Good numbers for that pump. But it is best to never run it with the engine off. They draw significant amp load, so without charge help will pull the voltage down, hard on the motor.

 

[Tools R Us]

After much thought, and realizing the room inside the 4Runner is extremely limited, I have been really leaning towards mounting it in an aluminum shroud (lying sideways) where the spare tire gets mounted under the truck. Any issues laying it sideways?

I also think I would have enough room for a stainless steel water bladder, possibly to hold 5-6 gallons.

Thank you to date for the help and input.

Thoughts on mounting it under the truck...but tucked up in and protected?

Pat

What are your air needs, tire size, etc? For most with smaller tires, etc, the MV50, 1050, etc, red compressors work well and are much smaller?

 

[titanpat57]

What are your air needs, tire size, etc? For most with smaller tires, etc, the MV50, 1050, etc, red compressors work well and are much smaller?

Let's put it this way.....It will be used minimally, but my thought is it's better have it and not need it.

 

[canman]

Good numbers for that pump. But it is best to never run it with the engine off. They draw significant amp load, so without charge help will pull the voltage down, hard on the motor.

I got to try it out on the trails a couple of weeks ago, and it took 2.5 minutes to inflate my 315's from 18 - 32 psi (with the engine running). I also found out that the DC5000 I have looks the same as the Extreme Aire unit...

 

[Tools R Us]

I got to try it out on the trails a couple of weeks ago, and it took 2.5 minutes to inflate my 315's from 18 - 32 psi (with the engine running). I also found out that the DC5000 I have looks the same as the Extreme Aire unit...

Sounds like good performance.

It maybe the little brother to the Extreme Aire, Puma, etc. The DC5000 pulls less amps, so less powerful motor, has a smaller cylinder bore and shorter stroke, so less displacement. But, if it does the job, doesn't matter. My issue is with the vendor, they are local to me and have a very poor reputation. Do a google on Joe Morrow and Chassis Tech/AIM/Air Bag It or any of the half a dozen company names that he hides behind, will net days of reading on their shenanigans.

I don't see the point, the Puma, is more powerful, comes with a tank, pressure switch, unloader, etc. Has a steel cylinder, likely to be more durable than the alloy cylinder on the DC5000. The Puma is well proven, lots of users have had success with them and they are less expensive than the DC5000.

 

[canman]

Agreed. I picked up the DC5000 locally from a guy who originally had purchased it as a spare for his S10 low rider project. I think I paid $150 for it (brand new never used). I just wanted to let others know about the DC5000 and it's performance and my installation as another possible option...

 

[Elbert]

where are people sourcing the puma air compressors?

edit....I saw some links back in the thread.. nevermind

 

[asutherland]

Has anyone mounted their PUMA compressor unit in the rear quarter panel? Mine is still mounted on the tank, which is then mounted to the floor on the right rear side. But I'd like to mount the tank underneath and the compressor in the right quarter panel.

Last time I was in there I took some quick measurements and it didn't look like it'd fit. BUT - I'm not against "trimming" the plasic panel if it can be made to fit! (space and keeping it out of the way is more important to me then the plastic panel)

 

[Tools R Us]

I have only seen this on a heep.

A couple of considerations: The quarters are not well sealed, it is somewhat common for water to drip from the window area. Cooling is critical, when mounted in a tight area, fan assisted airflow is likely necessary for proper cooling.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Has anyone mounted their PUMA compressor unit in the rear quarter panel? Mine is still mounted on the tank, which is then mounted to the floor on the right rear side. But I'd like to mount the tank underneath and the compressor in the right quarter panel.

Last time I was in there I took some quick measurements and it didn't look like it'd fit. BUT - I'm not against "trimming" the plasic panel if it can be made to fit! (space and keeping it out of the way is more important to me then the plastic panel)

I looked hard at the 1/4 panel area as well along with the other challenges I was challenged on a way to provide proper support for off road conditions.

 

[lovetoski]

Just received my puma 12v compressor today. Not sure where I'll mount it yet. Noted that titan posted above about whether you can mount these sideways...but no concrete answers. My question is more general...(other than ventilation) are there any limitations about where/how this is mounted? Does the motor/compressor care what orientation it's in? I will post pics of how I mount and wire this, but want to know parameters...

 

[Tools R Us]

They are oil-less, so can be mounted in any orientation. One consideration; draining the tank, especially if operated in humid conditions, the moisture will need to be drained from the tank.

 

[lovetoski]

They are oil-less, so can be mounted in any orientation. One consideration; draining the tank, especially if operated in humid conditions, the moisture will need to be drained from the tank.

Moisture in Seattle...not a chance! Thanks for the info, now onto the puzzle to figure out a clean location for install!

 

[lovetoski]

Question - instructions say to breakin by running for 20 mins with the "air receiver outlet valve" open. However, I am not sure what valve that is. Can somebody point me to it please?

Figured out where I'm going to mount it. Here are a couple of pics of what I'm thinking.

 

[Enigma]

The brass valve at the bottom of the tank, open it and let the compressor run while all the air blows out that valve. The one you can see in your second pic when you have it flipped over on it's side.

Just remember to close the valve when you actually want to have some compressed air for something

 

[lovetoski]

The brass valve at the bottom of the tank, open it and let the compressor run while all the air blows out that valve. The one you can see in your second pic when you have it flipped over on it's side.

Just remember to close the valve when you actually want to have some compressed air for something

Sweet - thankyou!

 

[Enigma]

And since mine is now finally mounted, I guess I can post some pics. The only problem with the location is that the drain is a little hard to get to, I should add a hose off of it really. But it's tucked out of the way nicely, using a cavity that previously just had crap stuffed into it, and leaves the rest of the cargo area beside the fridge open. I can still use the sleeping platform, but really only for one person now.
It's wired into the 6 gauge line that feeds the Inverter and solar set up. Fused up at the battery with 50 amp breakers.
I can unplug it and quickly unbolt it for easy removal if needed. It's bolted to the sleeping platform frame.
And for some numbers, I pumped up the tires on my driveway princess fj40:

35x12.50 R15, 10 psi to 35 psi 3 1/2 mins. And right after that one other tire, 0 psi to 35, took 6 mins.

I really need to find an air chuck that locks onto the valve stem with a good inline gauge. My knees can't handle crouching down and filling tires.