Programming a Transponder Key for 99 TLC (1 Viewer)

[Somebodyelse5]

So I cant get this sucker to accept the new key.... I can get the ECU into "Add mode" but cannot get it to accept the new key. Once I press the lock and unlock on the key for "more than 1 second" and then push the "lock" button for more than a second, the ECU only "locks" the doors and it does it 4 times.

Any ideas here?

 

[kingsalmon]

Folks, I had a devil of a time when I first started the attempt to program a new transponder key / keyless remote. I have a 1998 FJ100, which uses the 4C Transponder key type... I had one master key that came with the car (transponder key only -- no remote), and no other keys. I ordered a used key from eBay, had no issues getting the keyless remote to program, but could not get the ECU to go into programming mode or to take the key... I was using topoguide's steps listed earlier in the thread. I don't recall if I tried Locksmith Charlie's at that time -- but if I did, they didn't seem to work...


That was a year or two ago. In the interim, I decided to take it to my local dealership to have it looked at. They told me my existing key was a valet key, programmed a second transponder head key for me (so there were now TWO programmed keys), and thought that having the second key might enable me to add additional keys.


So, I ordered a new key from eBay which arrived today. I went back to topoguide's suggestions on programming the sequence E (type 4C) transponder key. NO LUCK! So, I went and got Locksmith Charlie's instructions again:


http://locksmithcharley.com/transponder/toyota.shtml


I used them, and guess what -- they worked! I then readily programmed the keyless remote portion using topoguide's instructions listed earlier in the thread.


Per Topoguide's info, I am not certain if having the second transponder key has ANYTHING to do with my ability to program a new master. My guess is, probably not... It is more likely that I didn't try Locksmith Charlie's technique the last time around, and only tried Topoguide's. His research is top notch, but I suppose it is possible that there are either ECU variants or that some models just may be more finicky. The major difference between Charlie's and Topoguide's techniques are the lack of the combined accelerator and brake press/depress and the replacement with the exterior door lock/unlock, master key into ignition + vehicle start, and then reinsertion of master key into ignition lock (no turn). The programming steps are otherwise identical.


Regarding timing, I went with an accelerator press/release and a brake press/release over about 1.5 to 2 seconds. One thing that distinguished this successful run was that the immobilizer light (car + key light) stayed off until after I inserted the master to be programmed and depressed/released the accelerator -- after a second or two, it started flashing again. This was different than in any of my prior runs, and within 60 seconds, the light turned off. I removed the new master, depressed/released the brake, and voila!


It took me a couple of years to get here -- but I made it. Hopefully you'll be able to as well -- and without having to use the Toyota ECU replacement program, etc...


Another interesting note -- I had two key shells cut by number by a local locksmith using the key codes from the Toyota dealer for my VIN. However, these weren't done on a continuous cutting machine and had a lot of "bumps". When cut by a Toyota dealer (or perhaps by a locksmith with different equipment), it does a smooth cut without these bumps, which makes the keys work smoothly in the locks. My local Toyota dealer was happy to recut my shells using the new smooth master they had made, and all work quite nicely...


Anyhow -- I hope this information proves to be of some assistance!


Thanks.


--Michael

 

[Topoguide]

Kingsalmon - I believe you are right in your theory of a slightly different ECU. I owned a 2000 previously and LockSmith Charlies instructions did not work, the ones I posted did. When I got my '03 I had to do it all over and combined my research (plus a little more) to post here. But I have always wondered which versions Charlies instructions worked on... my guess is that the 98 & maybe 99 is slightly different than 2000-02.

Glad you got your key programmed!

 

[Topoguide]

So I cant get this sucker to accept the new key.... I can get the ECU into "Add mode" but cannot get it to accept the new key. Once I press the lock and unlock on the key for "more than 1 second" and then push the "lock" button for more than a second, the ECU only "locks" the doors and it does it 4 times.

Any ideas here?

I have never exceeded the amount of keys allowed in the ECU so I don't know what happens... but what you described is not "normal" behaviour that I have seen. Have you tried clearing the ECU of all but 1 key and starting over?

 

[Est1980]

Worked flawlessly on the first try; 2002.

 

[Somebodyelse5]

I have never exceeded the amount of keys allowed in the ECU so I don't know what happens... but what you described is not "normal" behaviour that I have seen. Have you tried clearing the ECU of all but 1 key and starting over?

I have, also did not work. Ill have to give it another go. Im following the instructions in my 99 factory service manual


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[psychosapper]

Thanks to @mainecruiser and @Topoguide for posting these detailed instructions.

I have a 2001 LX 470 that came with one master key when I bought it. I bought a key off eBay and used their guides to erase extra keys not in my possession, program the new key's transponder to start the truck, and the new key's remote to operate the lock.

The only section I had trouble with was programming the remote to activate the locks. It took about 3-4 tries to get the truck to accept the new key. Just follow the instructions and you'll be fine.

Unfortunately I was price gouged getting the key cut at a local locksmith. Just take the key to autozone and get it cut for cheap.

 

[mr111]

A couple of posts mentioned the part numbers of the remotes and applicability but no actual experiences. I bought a key off ebay that said "1999,00,01,02,03,04". For my 1999 TLC. I received it and tried to program it using all these instructions many times to no avail. I thought maybe it has to be cut first to work. After cutting, still no luck with many attempts. I took it apart and found it was part number 60140 not 60010. Unless there's a trick, these two part numbers don't interchange.

Buyer beware. So best of my knowledge, 60010 is for 99-02, 60140 for 03-on. Does anyone here sell the 60010 fobs or have the opposite situation? PM me, I would gladly trade or buy the right fob.

 

[sdnative]

A couple of posts mentioned the part numbers of the remotes and applicability but no actual experiences. I bought a key off ebay that said "1999,00,01,02,03,04". For my 1999 TLC. I received it and tried to program it using all these instructions many times to no avail. I thought maybe it has to be cut first to work. After cutting, still no luck with many attempts. I took it apart and found it was part number 60140 not 60010. Unless there's a trick, these two part numbers don't interchange. View attachment 903009
Buyer beware. So best of my knowledge, 60010 is for 99-02, 60140 for 03-on. Does anyone here sell the 60010 fobs or have the opposite situation? PM me, I would gladly trade or buy the right fob.

PM sent

 

[kongdom]

A couple of posts mentioned the part numbers of the remotes and applicability but no actual experiences. I bought a key off ebay that said "1999,00,01,02,03,04". For my 1999 TLC. I received it and tried to program it using all these instructions many times to no avail. I thought maybe it has to be cut first to work. After cutting, still no luck with many attempts. I took it apart and found it was part number 60140 not 60010. Unless there's a trick, these two part numbers don't interchange. View attachment 903009
Buyer beware. So best of my knowledge, 60010 is for 99-02, 60140 for 03-on. Does anyone here sell the 60010 fobs or have the opposite situation? PM me, I would gladly trade or buy the right fob.

Hi mr111 - I have a 1999 LC and recently received a 60140 (left key in photo is ebay (OEM) clone, right key in photo is factory master (60010)) and I can't seem to get the new key programmed. I seem to succeed at entering programming mode (the flashing red car disappears after I remove the master key), but then when I insert the new key to program it, the red light comes back on and never stops flashing.

Curious to know, were you able to resolve the issue and get a new key working? So is 60140 definitely the wrong key for the 1999?
This was the ebay seller that I purchased from: dairalex

Thanks!

 

[sdnative]

From my understanding, the 60010 is the 3D chip for 98-02 and the 60140 is the 4D chip for 03+

Pretty sure you need a 60010 chip for your 99.

 

[kongdom]

From my understanding, the 60010 is the 3D chip for 98-02 and the 60140 is the 4D chip for 03+

Pretty sure you need a 60010 chip for your 99.

Thanks. I contacted the ebay seller about this, but haven't heard back yet.

 

[kongdom]

Thanks. I contacted the ebay seller about this, but haven't heard back yet.

UPDATE: I heard back from the seller. He said that he's sending me the 60010. I'll post another update after I get it and try it out.

 

[mr111]

Kongdom,
SDnative was kind enough to swap fobs with me and I had no trouble programming the correct

 

[mr111]

60010 Fob.
I realize you're still trying to get the immobilized I work, but once you're past that I can possibly save you from pulling out some hair. For my truck, one of the steps at the end of the remote programming procedure is misleading. It says after you get into the mode to hold both buttons for two seconds and then immediately push the unlock button. I had no success with this step. Finally just quickly depressed both and then unlock and it worked immediately. Just an FYI.
You will have no trouble with the right fob. Hopefully the seller will come through for you. I also bought my key through dairalex and filled him in on correct application details. Unfortunately he hasn't changed his listings yet. Good luck.

 

[kongdom]

UPDATE: Received the 60010 key fob from Dairalex today. Successfully programmed the key on the first attempt! Programming the keyless entry remote took 2 attempts - @mr111 I had the exact experience that you warned me about (saw your warning after the fact) when I followed the step about holding down both lock and unlock for 2 seconds. Did that first and programming failed. On my second attempt, I pressed both buttons together quickly then tapped the unlock button and boom - success. Thanks!

 

[smokewrench]

I recently picked up a 98 LC with just a single valet key. Like others have mentioned in this thread, my local locksmith was able to clone my existing valet onto a aftermarket master blank. Now I have a spare that will also lock my glovebox. Cost was $41

Here's my question. Where is this security light that everybody is mentioning? One person said it was near his clock, another said it was a red light shaped like a landcruiser, but I don't see anything. The locksmith couldn't find it either, and he's pretty well versed with Toyota's. Possibility that it's just simply burned out? Disabled?

 

[options2]

On my 99 it is here. Both are right. It is by your clock, and it does look like a SUV with a key in it.

 

[smokewrench]

options2, thank you. it's working, just very hard to see during the day. should've played around with it in the garage. interesting tidbit in my case as well... my "valet" appears to be a master. the light went out right away when I inserted it into the ignition. good to know.

 

[options2]

Np, you are welcome. Yes it is possible for the valet key to be programmed as the master (chip), but it wouldn't be a master cut (key). If that makes sense. You can re-program the new one to be a master as well. The process is some where in this thread I believe.