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@96Cruiser13 grabbed it out of a crane or something that came through his scrapyard.
I Tried to Power Three Electric Vehicles With Solar Panels
Anyone else heard / seen home brew solar charging stations? Looks like people are taking action and installing solar panels at home just to charge cars.
Anyone else heard / seen home brew solar charging stations? Looks like people are taking action and installing solar panels at home just to charge cars.
Math doesn't work in NC. Our electricity is too cheap.
You do solar, you do it for the feels, not the savings...
You do solar, you do it for the feels, not the savings...
Plus Duke Power, or Duke Energy, or whatever they are called now, got the legislature to basically ban you from going totally off the grid, and storing your solar in batteries. When the grid goes down, your junk goes down too, because they dont want you to backfeed the grid and electrocute a lineman. Which if you were totally offgrid, wouldnt happen anyway......
It is happening all the time. We looked at this home with our realtor - multiple charging stations for a Leaf and something else.
280 Country Ln, Pittsboro, NC 27312 | MLS #2124826 | Zillow
As the article states, you are basically pre-paying for gas.
Break even on solar panels is about 7-9 years for a simple grid tied solution up to a small battery back up solution.
What REALLY had me excited about buying a Leaf was that we had chargers at work - - well they pulled the chargers out and then it became a tougher decision that ended with me just keeping the Prius V
Would love to compare notes with you on this, James!
I have done this math a couple times and it pays off in about 7-9 years, best case.
Worst case, if you look at the opportunity costs of the capital investment (vs having put that in the total market as an investment), the potential for issues prior to the end of the 20-year useful life, and a lower useful life of the system, as advertised, it is a "crap shoot."
All of the above was done without any benefits from Uncle Sam - - for a while, NC had great subsidies that made it a better personal decision. Also was done based on ONLY handling your needs vs "farming" for more, bringing down your price per kW and being able to sell some back to the grid.
Yes, Duke has a strangle hold on NC. Very strange and lots of closed door meetings. Solar farms are popping up in Nash county and I heard Duke has already stopped leasing from people. You would think they could get out of their own way and shut down the coal plants and take the lead on solar.
Red Dawn is an all time great!
Red Dawn is an all time great!
Our loft building added solar PV panels to the roof of the building (about 20 units). The way our building is set up, all utilities go through the main office (no individual accounts for power, gas, water) which makes transitions a lot easier for management. All units have individual meters which management reads and bills accordingly. This saves on the monthly fees (admin, connection, activation, etc.) by having a single account for each utility for the whole building.
All the solar PV array is accomplishing is off-setting the cost of the building's power bill with local utility (Georgia Power). They cannot use it locally - it just props up the local grid. It would be great if it could keep a battery charged for when the power goes out (like a giant UPS for our building) but the local regulators prevent that.
In a commercial application, I could see how the ROI might work in a short time frame. But for a residential application, I'm not sure it does much than give you a scout badge for environmentalism.
All the solar PV array is accomplishing is off-setting the cost of the building's power bill with local utility (Georgia Power). They cannot use it locally - it just props up the local grid. It would be great if it could keep a battery charged for when the power goes out (like a giant UPS for our building) but the local regulators prevent that.
In a commercial application, I could see how the ROI might work in a short time frame. But for a residential application, I'm not sure it does much than give you a scout badge for environmentalism.
Ugh - I need to read up on this
From what I read the last time, though it's been months - this hasn't happened in NC (yet), but I am sure Duke is trying to make this a reality.
Agree wholeheartedly, and let's not forget who made out the most on the solar subsidy until McCrory got rid of it - Duke and all of it's solar farms it put up.....
Solar is a limited resource, once the sun is gone we are screwed, so we need to stop sucking the light with panels. Worse is these giant fans people put up for their cows, the are probably running on solar too.
Ugh - I need to read up on this
For some reason that made me want to post this:
I like the new one better with North Korea, but kept waiting for Thor to pick up his hammer and he never did. The first one had a huge flaw, the Cuban commander. No self respecting Cuban would work in snowy environments, we are a tropical people.
I wish to compare also
Duke wasnt the only one that made out well on the subsidies...Sen Kay Hagan's kid had a solar installation company, and was able to make quite a bit. I'd love to go solar/battery, and get as far away from the grid as possible, but im sure my HOA would not like that, as well as Dukey. If i ever did a home outta town, that was going to be my plan. But you wont get a Certificate of Occupancy without a power meter, which means the power util will put the cawkblock on you.
As it currently sits, you put panels on the house, and can power your house. Your excess power goes back thru the meter (running it backwards), to the grid, and drops your bill. but, when the grid drops, you drop too. You may or may not get in trouble if you have your own UPS units (whether small device specific ones, or a whole house. Device specific wont backfeed, but a whole house may.
As it currently sits, you put panels on the house, and can power your house. Your excess power goes back thru the meter (running it backwards), to the grid, and drops your bill. but, when the grid drops, you drop too. You may or may not get in trouble if you have your own UPS units (whether small device specific ones, or a whole house. Device specific wont backfeed, but a whole house may.
I can flip the switch on my current house and be off the grid. You sayin they gonna come by and try to take me to jail?
You saying they will put a lien on me or are you saying you simply can't build new construction without it?
You saying they will put a lien on me or are you saying you simply can't build new construction without it?
Coal ash could raise your power bill: Duke Energy wants double-digit rate hike
Electric is cheap in NC, but its cost, like most everything else goes is going up. With electric prices increasing, the cost of solar decreasing, and lower consumption devices, the payback for solar, I believe, will continue to be reduced. That is until they find a way to charge us for using the sun.
My favorite part.
“and also provide its investors with reasonable returns on their investments of needed capital.”
Read more here: Coal ash could raise your power bill: Duke Energy wants double-digit rate hike
Electric is cheap in NC, but its cost, like most everything else goes is going up. With electric prices increasing, the cost of solar decreasing, and lower consumption devices, the payback for solar, I believe, will continue to be reduced. That is until they find a way to charge us for using the sun.
My favorite part.
“and also provide its investors with reasonable returns on their investments of needed capital.”
Read more here: Coal ash could raise your power bill: Duke Energy wants double-digit rate hike
NC is in the middle 1/3rd of electrical rates at around $.095/kWh. I looked at my own bill and looked at a national average web site.
Cheapest state is ~$0.075 and the nat'l average is ~ $.110
Cheapest state is ~$0.075 and the nat'l average is ~ $.110
