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Welcome. Great bunch of folks here. Very nice cruiser.
 
Welcome Jon, good looking 40.
 
It's a labor of love....................sweat and blood :)
As far as the cash, call it an investment, yeah yeah that's it, an investment.................
 
Welcome!
 
It's a labor of love....................sweat and blood :)
As far as the cash, call it an investment, yeah yeah that's it, an investment.................
Absolutely an investment... Now, not all investments are good investments, but that's another issue.
 
Just because its a bad idea doesnt mean its not fun....
 
Ok im just going to pretend you are looking at getting into road biking so that i may get some sleep tonight.
 
Exactly how does one come across such a product while surfing?
 
Outstanding product -

"Being a bit of a romantic I thought I would do the deed on the missus's birthday as a bit of a treat. I ordered it well in advance and working in the North sea I considered myself a bit above some of the characters writing the previous reviews and wrote them off as soft office types...oh my fellow sufferers how wrong I was."
 
Excellent product. Most prisoners confessed within five minutes of the first application. Can recommend.

Yours,
Ali Muhabarakah,
Secret Police, Damascus
 
Good, all of ONCS will be spared any embarrassing sprout related incidents..... At least with this as the cause.
 
ok... rant on Calling Griffin Thermal Products out on some utter bull****


I called to ask how to proceed with a warranty claim seeing as how my 8 mos old radiator is leaking between the core and the tank.
Well Pam was only able to inform me that they do not warranty that radiator because it is not a direct fit model.

Well guess the **** what pam? read the warranty. Especially line 1.

copied from GTP site

Griffin™ Radiator Limited Warranty


Griffin Thermal Products, Inc. (GTP) warrants its aluminum radiators and oil coolers to be free from defects in materials and workmanship for a period of:

  • • Thirty (30) days from the date of purchase at retail for racing products by the original purchaser. (Series “1” and “2” Part Numbers)
  • • One (1) year from the date of purchase at retail for custom products by the original purchaser. (Series “9D” Part Numbers)
  • • Two (2) years from the date of purchase at retail for catalog products by the original purchaser.
This warranty is extended only to the first purchaser of any such radiator at retail from an Authorized Griffin Distributor. First Retail Purchaser has 30 days from shipping date to examine the part and submit any claims outside of performance claims. Please direct all warranty claims through your Authorized Griffin Distributor. Improper claims received by Griffin Thermal Products will be referred back to the original Distributor.
If a custom radiator is used in any racing application, its warranty is considered null and void If a racing radiator, which is designed for off-public road racing, is used in any other type applications, its warranty is considered null and void.
This warranty does not cover labor or materials not manufactured by GTP. All shipping charges are the sole responsibility of the purchaser and are not covered by this warranty. Radiators repaired or altered by parties outside GTP are not covered by this warranty. The retail purchaser is responsible for the appropriate installation, application and use of the product. Radiators repaired or altered by parties outside GTP are not covered by this warranty
Claims for internal damage of the engine, components or user's vehicles are not covered by this warranty. It is the responsibility of the GTP product user to monitor engine operation and have proper detection devices installed to warn the user of overheating.
GTP shall not be responsible for injury or harm to persons and/or property caused by persons or vehicles using our products.
The purchaser's remedy for breach of this warranty, exclusive of all other remedies provided by law, is expressly limited to repair or replacement of any part or parts. All products to be returned for warranty consideration must be returned to GTP with a Return Material Authorization (RMA) number, all transportation expenses prepaid. Upon receipt of the product, GTP will examine the product to determine its condition and validity of the claim.
If a consumer does not prevail in an action based upon breach of warranty, consumer agrees to pay reasonable attorney fees and associated expenses to GTP for that action.


Now evidently my model 1-55202-x is not a radiator but just a finned fluid cooling device :mad:


Her actual verbage was "honey we dont warranty racing radiators" Yes ma'am but this is not a racing radiator...
well honey we only warranty catalogue items. Yes ma'am look at page 5 of your catalogue. (its in summits catalogue too)
What catalogue honey? ma'am the one on your website i assumed youd be familiar with
Ok well thats a universal fit Aluminum RADIATOR. Exactly, so line one comes into play, do you not warranty your aluminum radiators???
OF course we do, but that is not ...... (Interupted here).... This is not an aluminum radiator???
Well yes but ...... so you dont actually warrant your aluminum radiators?
We do, but only direct fit models. Not custom units. WTF pam.... page 5 please.
We cannot help you sir, i can provide you the direct fit model number for a 77 fj45 to purchase that we can offer a warranty on.
No thanks, if you can't warranty an aluminum radiator as your warranty claims I have no confidence or desire to buy anything else from you.
Im sorry you feel this way. well im sorry ive wasted 300 dollars with you , how bout you change your warranty to indicate that you dont warranty your aluminum radiators, because, you know, thats what line one says, and thats what i bought from you.
OK ill tell management to change the warranty, have a good day. OK pam..... but if i was having a good day my radiator wouldnt be garbage.


(gonna call this as BS too until i see it)


I was extremely polite and asked to speak to management and was told she is capable of handling such claims and it simply "is what it is" just out policy. (ET moment of wanting to reach out and touch someone here)
 
totally racing the 80..... but I have one of your radiators in that one ;)
 
@jfz80 I had a 180 degree response with a radiator that was 1.5 years old and developed a pin hole leak at a weld. They sent my customer a pick up label and the new radiator went out the door the day the defective one hit their shipping bay. I deal with Michelle Morgan, Tom Knottek is Director of Sales

Can't hurt to go past Pam
 

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