Oneoff custom front winch bumper fab (1 Viewer)

[harts]

oops i exceeded my quota for pics MJ you get the point I hope. I am a creative guy. Look thru the pics on that link I sent from facebook and there's years and years of stuff I built on there. I honestly haven't even seen your bumper as of still and it may be a great design but other than commenting on your bumper had I seen it I could honestly care less about it.

how many times do you have to keep requesting MJ80 to reply? He had a point but mistook your picture as the final product. You have since provided information that it was NOT the final product.

Yes MJ80 was showing a bit of attitude but thats us aussie blokes for you. Grow up everyone i think

 

[BinksFab]

I suppose I was frustrated being called a copycat. Hey can I come down there and drink some beers with you guys and flirt with your single womenfolk????

 

[Booger weldz]

how many times do you have to keep requesting MJ80 to reply? He had a point but mistook your picture as the final product. You have since provided information that it was NOT the final product.

Yes MJ80 was showing a bit of attitude but thats us aussie blokes for you. Grow up everyone i think

My mother in law resides in sydney, shes proud of who she is without having to log on to the internet... mjs just some homo hiding behind a keyboard... He couldnt provide any pics or evidence of his skills so we quickly dispelled his talents as he apparently built a pretty cool bumper, once, and then decided he was the messiah of fabrication and treated everyone whos built a bumper like sh!t. Guys like him show up all the time on the internet, but wheres his customers and wheeling buddies he builds things for? Nonsense... Moving forward...

Were just here to share the build process as we make cool s*** for our trucks...

 

[MJ80]

He couldnt provide any pics or evidence of his skills so we quickly dispelled his talents as he apparently built a pretty cool bumper, once, and then decided he was the messiah of fabrication and treated everyone whos built a bumper like sh!t.

Bahaha are you serious dude ? Your absolutely out of control iv never seen someone exaggerate and crap on about as much unrelated bull**** as you are doing here, how is any of that relevant or even slightly called for ? grow up you child, for the last time i pointed out a weak point and was then greeted with a total load of bull**** for even suggesting that this work was anything less than perfect, and now your going on about my sexuality and me being the Messiah of fabrication (i don't agree with that but ill take it, your words after all) and hater of all bumpers other than my own, do you even read what you say after you post it ? what a load of crap, your doing your cause here and Binks business a world of good though seriously such a good image for the business to be associated with.

Oh and my pics and evidence had already been seen by you, you even talk about it in this thread you idiot and as iv already said you commented on it at pirate before i even posted in this thread lol.

Grow up and get over it you arrogant tool.

 

[harts]

I suppose I was frustrated being called a copycat. Hey can I come down there and drink some beers with you guys and flirt with your single womenfolk????

No worries mate Anytime you are down ill share half a carton

My mjs just some homo hiding behind a keyboard

You sir are an idiot for a statement like that...

... Nonsense... Moving forward...

You said it now get on with the pictures and some headlight protection...

 

[South]

Don't worry fellas, MJ80 is a self proclaimed genius, he likes to take credit for things that have already been done, but he's gone and done them himself to save coin.

Example 1, his stupid looking bullbar looks nothing like the OPs glroious looking bullbar... MJ did have his barwork made by someone else though, he thought of it, but created elsewhere...

Example 2, his ridiculous suspension setup that he very much knows is flawed (he will deny this though). To save some coin, he bought the fox shox from the states, bought the wrong length and the wrong valving and in the end it will have cost more than it would have cost to buy from Assasin Offroad (previous user on here, might still be??) This will fire him up, as he thinks that tucking the tyres up 1inch into the wheel well is heaps of up travel, when there is obvisouly a great deal more up travel available, should he have purchased the correct length shocks.

Sure there is more examples, and he will once again say that I am following him, however that tends to happen when you own an vehicle and there are multiple forums ranging from mild to wild that are reviewed by many a user... Oh well happy days.

Keep up the good work OP

 

[MJ80]

My biggest hater <3 you (FYI this guy follows me around everywhere hating on everything i do)

1st: The bar was 100% created/built in my garage the only part of the job that wasn't done by us was using a machine to do the folds on the wings which anyone who knows anything about that kind of fold is totally required its not possible to do the folds without it anyway the machine cant even get close to the angles required so they still had to be hand beaten with a sledge hammer, i have no idea where you got the idea that we didn't build it 100% ourselves. Who are you suggesting built it ? and what proof do you have of this ? i have numerous photos of it being built step by step in my garage. Of course you cant prove it, because its just not true, if you have genuinely been misled by someone else that's forgivable but if thats something you yourself have said to stir trouble then that's really quite uncalled for, regardless of how we get along.

Edit: we also had the bar painted by a shop.

2: My suspension setup is fantastic for me and the the kind of driving i do, not all of us potter around touring with a 2" lift, some of us actually do some challenging driving and require suspension travel and require a bit of height, my shocks are the correct length FYI, who are you to judge they aren't ? Valving isnt exactly wrong it works well and does a good job, its absolutely fantastic off road (which is exactly what i asked for when describing my driving when the valving was being done) but i would like to experiment with something higher settings just to compare as iv nothing to rate its current performance against, Shame on me for trying something new and not getting it 100% right like you would buy paying 4X the price and having someone else do it for you. edit: Shocks haven't cost me a cent more since the day they went in ? so im still around $1000-1500 ahead of what it would have cost to buy them here have someone else do it for me, excluding fitting which would be another few hund, so i don't see how its cost me more ? apart from two larger bushes i think they were $35 for the pair ? shocking expense there.

3: My up travel is more than enough for me personally i dont see how it impacts or matters to you in any way, its my car iv built it for my driving not yours and your thoughts on it count for nothing. As iv said before down travel is preferred to up travel generally speaking, there are of course exceptions but not in this case, its perfect for me. I have yet to encounter a situation where i needed more unless im being silly and driving very fast over whoops and thats where the hydro bumps come in, they aren't in yet but the cars a work in progress and it cant all be done in one go.

See IMO thats plenty of up travel for a 35.5" tyre, i dont need any more than that and that's it, there's nothing more to say.

 

[South]

Notice the sign up dates on most of the forums, who's following who? LOL

Just like this bulbar was built for his car the way he liked it, calling the kettle black?

Why the comments on other forums about not being 100% happy with the suspension, lies much?

Oh well, I guess some of us are on a budget, and some of us aren't... Mine also doesn't just tour, and it doesn't have a 2" lift but it can tuck the rear pretty much up to the rim line. See how much body roll you have in that chopped photo, it would sit flat if the shocks were correct.

Look at the Jeeps, low CoG big rubber and massive flex. Big lifts for going off road are for numpties!

I will read this PM you sent now, after saying "there's nothing more to say" LOL

 

[MJ80]

For the record i pmed this clown and told him i was pretty hurt that he had made up that we didn't make the bar, he didn't deny it in his response there and hasn't denied it here.

Of course im not 100% happy, i never am. There's always room for improvement, are you suggesting that everything you do is at its absolute total peak of design evolution and that nothing could ever be improved ? The toughest buggys and racers in this sport are constantly tweaking and improving their setups, why are you so outraged that im tweaking mine and making improvements, nothings ever going to be perfect right away, its gets to that stage after tweaking and modifying from the starting point. Why does this outrage you on a personal level ?

Oh your example of body roll in that pic is not an accurate observation, those holes are and i say this truthfully are "F^%^*$G Huge", any less down travel and the car would actually be ass up and the back end of the car would literally be nearly rolling over in that hole and the front which is so level considering would be a good meter in the air and i reckon the car on its side. You wouldn't know, your on the other side of the country and really you cant comment. The thing is buddy, Too much up travel and you don't have enough down travel to much down travel and you don't have enough up travel. I feel that for the type of driving i do (which you again have no right to comment on) that i have a great balance, tipped slightly in favor of down travel (which FYI is what 90% of the offroad community will aim for, common knowledge that in general driving down travel is better than up travel. While IMO still enough up travel so i don't suffer from not enough as seen in the pic.

Why are you here ? are you trying to make your self look like a fool ? at least i entered this thread with something to say about the topic, you have actually come in here and started posting with the sole intention of making trouble with me, which i might add has failed miserably, you look like a fool and you make Booger look like a great bloke.

 

[South]

I'm not the fool, you take PM's into the public domain because you don't get your way, so you cry about it.

You still don't understand suspension. If you had more up travel it would push the opposite side down further, thus you would gain further down travel and that "Fxxxing Huge" hole wouldn't be so hazardous.

But hey your ignorance is bliss and you choose only what you want to see, read or do.

Good luck with it all, but you can stop the tears now

/End

 

[MJ80]

I'm not the fool, you take PM's into the public domain because you don't get your way, so you cry about it.


/End

You made up a BS story about the bar being made by someone else, you got caught out and now your back peddling away as fast as you can and so you should. You chose to bring the PM i sent you into public light and i only confirmed what it was about.

You still don't understand suspension. If you had more up travel it would push the opposite side down further,

Your ignorance is amazing seriously, how do you think it works ? that a big long shock that allows that amount of down travel can just magically become shorter to fit in the space and provide the same down travel and at the same time provide this epic up travel ? Dosnt work that way buddy, when your working with stock mounts you only have a set amount of space to get the most travel out before having too little up travel. You cant have it all unless you start spacing mounts up and cutting into the floor ! You cant just fit a huge shock, have that travel and have the up travel you love so much as well, you strike a balance @ how you want you suspension to perform and thats what iv done. No idea why you insist on popping up in numerous threads and having the same go at me over and over and being shut down over and over, at the end of the day its not your car, so piss off.

 

[Luke111]

Why don't you both take this somewhere else.... Like out back and just beat the crap out of each other...

It's a great bumper... Keep the pictures coming

Lou

 

[kidglove13]

It is quite comical you have to admit

 

[B Legit]

I am amazed that despite the amount of S@*% talking in this thread, there is still some really good tech. Not exactly the most productive way to present the information, but worthwhile none the less. I used to belong to a few other forums where I ended up arguing with some folks about random stuff, and my wife would come home from work and ask me what I was all worked up about, and I would tell her about some jerk on the internet and how I was right and yadda yadda yadda....... Now I just make it a policy not to get into an argument with anybody I can't put in a headlock.
Squash the drama fellas.

 

[B Legit]

By the way, your new bumper design is stellar. Anyone want to buy my 8274 ready tube bumper so I can have an excuse to write these guys a check?

 

[93yotasr5]

wow way off topic

IBTL

 

[Booger weldz]

Mj80, please just PM me if u must....ur outta control and its my fault for provoking u not binksfab.com...

Im used to pirate where people put up or shut up. Didnt realize i need to be polite here, even when accused of copying...

Please post a pic of ur bumper here so the public can decide if ur 'bumpper' was copied

 

[Booger weldz]

Sorry guys, didnt realize what i wAs gettin into when i started w this mj individual. Hes(and me pokin at him) has clogged up this thread enough. At first it was fun to get a rise outta him and argue, etc. But I realize hes not gonna shutup even after i mixed compliments in w my 'jabs'

Mj80,u can PM me if u wanna have me show u what ive built and wheeled, if not fine, but please leave this thread for people who wanna discuss the bumper w binksfab.com. Thanks in advance! IT WOULD BE SPECTACULAR, however, IF U WOULD POST PICS OF UR bumper WE SUPPOSEDLY COPIED here so the public can decide


Now back to bumpers, sliders and 80 series mods....

 

[Wilson]

Let's put this to rest... I searched "mj80" and got results with several front bumper threads. In at least one of those threads he also accused the owner/ builder of copying some portion of his design. That owner/ builder had never seen his bumper or rig before either. I was able to find a picture of his bumper though and it seems he won some kind of design award in Australia... no wonder he is so proud.

Nice bumper, only small similarity that I see is the step down portion for the winch. The rest.... well there's only so many ways to skin a cat. My next post in this thread will have pictures of a FINISHED, PRODUCTION binksfab bumper after I pick it up Tuesday (8/17/11)

Mj80's

Binks

 

[Booger weldz]

Thanks jeremy again, nice work mj, it is a nice bumper and a clean design..im done playing cool guy on the internet, ive got five bumpers to build in only a couple days...