ARCHIVE On Board Air Kits ala Wits' End...still working out da bugs (4 Viewers)

[NLXTACY]

Good thing I did the mockup. Found three issues I need to deal with. All easy stuff.

 

[69vortec]

I'm mounting in the same location. Just waiting on the york brack now.

 

[NLXTACY]

I'm mounting in the same location. Just waiting on the york brack now.

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Nice!

 

[NLXTACY]

York brackets are finally here and getting zinc plated!!!

 

[NLXTACY]

I also got in the correct size regulator and some adjustable blow off valves. I have a feeling the blow off valves don't need to get into this kind of granularity nor adjustability for what we are working with so I'm just going to go with pre-set units.

 

[Razorbackcruiser]

Can we talk about pros/cons on tank placement?

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Don't mean to put you on the spot but can you give a rough estimate on cost of your first kit?

Many thanks!

 

[NLXTACY]

Can we talk about pros/cons on tank placement?

There are only four options:
1. Inside the cargo area
Pro: Easy enough to find a place to mount. Won't rust.
Con: Takes up valuable cargo space. Need to run line to drain water. Have to listen to the blow off valve when not expecting.

2. Under the truck's cargo area:
Pro: Plenty of space. Easy bolt up solution (once I'm done). Out of the way of damage
Con: Requires spare removed

3. Under driver's side next to frame:
Pro: Out of the way. Useful if you are running a spare tire or gas tank. I'll have a mount for it as well.
Con: Some if not most, sliders will limit its mounting

4: Behind front bumper:
Pro: Basically protected by the bumper and/or winch. I will have a kit for ARB bumpers.
Con: Blocks the Power Steering paperclip. More exposed to potential rocks.

Don't mean to put you on the spot but can you give a rough estimate on cost of your first kit?

NO clue. I just tallied up the total of everything for the York OBA kits and after everything is said and done, and they haven't even shipped yet, I lost $11 for each of the kits so I really need to rethink my pricing. I'm not interested in dialing back the quality/features so I need to just resign myself to charging more for these kits. Boo.

 

[Razorbackcruiser]

There are only four options:
1. Inside the cargo area
Pro: Easy enough to find a place to mount. Won't rust.
Con: Takes up valuable cargo space. Need to run line to drain water. Have to listen to the blow off valve when not expecting.

2. Under the truck's cargo area:
Pro: Plenty of space. Easy bolt up solution (once I'm done). Out of the way of damage
Con: Requires spare removed

3. Under driver's side next to frame:
Pro: Out of the way. Useful if you are running a spare tire or gas tank. I'll have a mount for it as well.
Con: Some if not most, sliders will limit its mounting

4: Behind front bumper:
Pro: Basically protected by the bumper and/or winch. I will have a kit for ARB bumpers.
Con: Blocks the Power Steering paperclip. More exposed to potential rocks.



NO clue. I just tallied up the total of everything for the York OBA kits and after everything is said and done, and they haven't even shipped yet, I lost $11 for each of the kits so I really need to rethink my pricing. I'm not interested in dialing back the quality/features so I need to just resign myself to charging more for these kits. Boo.

Damn! Sorry to hear that. I almost feel guilty for buying one now!!

 

[NLXTACY]

Damn! Sorry to hear that. I almost feel guilty for buying one now!!

Don't! Its my own fault. I can't leave well enough alone. I wanted anodizing. I wanted laser etching. I wanted zinc plating. I wanted OEM belt (vs Dayco cogged), I wanted OEM tensioner bolt vs off the shelf option. I could have done it cheaper, I chose not to. And I wouldn't change it. My next go around I'll add some profit padding. Its ok. Not the end of the world.

 

[NLXTACY]

Now that all of the York bracket kits are going to be shipping I need to finalize the tank mounting and manifold mounting. Its getting close.

 

[scottryana]

Pretty sure you're supposed to total all those things up first?? Great product as always, but you need to start making a little bit of money or these great new products aren't going to stick around for long.

Don't! Its my own fault. I can't leave well enough alone. I wanted anodizing. I wanted laser etching. I wanted zinc plating. I wanted OEM belt (vs Dayco cogged), I wanted OEM tensioner bolt vs off the shelf option. I could have done it cheaper, I chose not to. And I wouldn't change it. My next go around I'll add some profit padding. Its ok. Not the end of the world.

 

[NLXTACY]

Pretty sure you're supposed to total all those things up first?? Great product as always, but you need to start making a little bit of money or these great new products aren't going to stick around for long.

Yeah I know. I try and tally everything at the beginning and get all the quotes I can. Then I pick a margin I'll be happy with. Things change. Not enough interest, qty changes so per piece price increases, change mind on a finish, production delays forcing new vendor, etc etc and pretty soon the built it margin gets eroded.

 

[scottryana]

Just giving you s***, I know it is not an easy thing to tackle. It is awesome you are doing it! I commend you on all the high quality products you are bringing to market. I know tough market and you want to keep prices as low as possible but seriously you need to make a little cash to stay afloat.

Yeah I know. I try and tally everything at the beginning and get all the quotes I can. Then I pick a margin I'll be happy with. Things change. Not enough interest, qty changes so per piece price increases, change mind on a finish, production delays forcing new vendor, etc etc and pretty soon the built it margin gets eroded.

 

[NLXTACY]

Just giving you s***, I know it is not an easy thing to tackle. It is awesome you are doing it! I commend you on all the high quality products you are bringing to market. I know tough market and you want to keep prices as low as possible but seriously you need to make a little cash to stay afloat.

Yeah its why I'm in no hurry to run the FEMs again or anymore 80s LockBoxes. I sit on them for too long but I gotta pay for it all. I'll find that happy medium somewhere. Wits' End is my full time "job" now so I need to make sure that I can one day take a paycheck. I know my wife would be happy.

 

[scottryana]

Yeah and when you figure it out PM me. I have two junk cruisers that I need to figure out how to get them to make money for me too! Lol

Yeah its why I'm in no hurry to run the FEMs again or anymore 80s LockBoxes. I sit on them for too long but I gotta pay for it all. I'll find that happy medium somewhere. Wits' End is my full time "job" now so I need to make sure that I can one day take a paycheck. I know my wife would be happy.

 

[Steve D]

Hypothetically speaking, if someone wanted to Paypal that missing $11 to you, what email would one use?

 

[NLXTACY]

Hypothetically speaking, if someone wanted to Paypal that missing $11 to you, what email would one use?

Nope. I don't want to do that. But thanks

But if there is anything else you may need feel free to peruse the site

 

[Steve D]

Have it your way. What's your highest margin item?

 

[NLXTACY]

Have it your way. What's your highest margin item?

It WAS my second run of FEM-1s. But those are gone for the time being.

 

[1973Guppie]

I want my fuel filter relocation kit......