Oil Pressure Gauge FIX (1 Viewer)

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So I temporarily installed the analog oil pressure transducer. This was the reading with the engine off:
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I took a few measurements but unfortunately I could not determine the exact RPM because my tach is intermittant. Here's the resulting calculations:
diff from zerocalculated PSI
engine off
0.474​
0​
0​
cold idle
2.71​
2.236​
55.9​
warm idle
2.09​
1.616​
40.4​
aprox 2k rpm
3.13​
2.656​
66.4​
standardvoltspsi
4​
100​
0.04​
(zeroed) volts per psi
So, I think I'm good, oil-pressure wise.
 
Glad to see the PSI measurements. Back to the electrical troubleshooting. Are you headed for the gauge and cluster next? I think you ruled out everything under the hood.
 
That's some Space Age Captain Picard SH#T There ......... 🤔

did i mention YAZAKI and NipponDenso make analogue oil pressure 2 5/8 pod size gauges , and they will both communicate in electrical harmony with a YAZAKI manual gauge type Oil Sender like on a 1FZ-FE for instance ..

NO old skool capillary tube set up needed , i like the black and white 100% solid data that is a guarantee of verifiable oil pressure , heck you can see oil flow up the clearing tube to your hand held gauge real time live ...



note no affiliation :


these examples are good in-shop bench test gauges if you will :m





 
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That's some Space Age Captain Picard SH#T There ......... 🤔
I'm more of a Kirkite than a Picardist--for obvious reasons.
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But Scotty is my inspiration!

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[Bridge]
KIRK: Scotty, we're running out of time.
[Engineering]
SCOTT: Captain, I'm working as fast as I can.
[Bridge]
COMMANDER: You see, Captain? Your effort is being wasted.
KIRK: Mister Spock, distance from the Romulan vessel?
SPOCK: One hundred and fifty thousand kilometres, Captain, and closing very rapidly.
KIRK: Stand by, phasers. Commander, you'll forgive me if I put up a fight.
COMMANDER: Of course. It's expected.
SPOCK: One hundred thousand kilometres. They should commence firing at us within the next twelve point seven seconds.
KIRK: Scotty.
[Engineering]
SCOTT: It's ready now, Captain, but I don't know whether our circuits can handle this alien contraption.
[Bridge]
KIRK: Throw the switch.
[Engineering]
SCOTT: It'll likely overload.
[Bridge]
KIRK: Throw the switch.
(Scott does, and the Enterprise gently vanishes, like a Cheshire cat.
I wonder what Scotty would have made of Mr. Toyo's power distribution system with fusible links, or the giant, power wasting resistor to make 6 volts for the fuel pump in cruise....
 
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I'm more of a Kirkite than a Picardist--for obvious reasons.
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But Scotty is my inspiration!

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[Bridge]
KIRK: Scotty, we're running out of time.
[Engineering]
SCOTT: Captain, I'm working as fast as I can.
[Bridge]
COMMANDER: You see, Captain? Your effort is being wasted.
KIRK: Mister Spock, distance from the Romulan vessel?
SPOCK: One hundred and fifty thousand kilometres, Captain, and closing very rapidly.
KIRK: Stand by, phasers. Commander, you'll forgive me if I put up a fight.
COMMANDER: Of course. It's expected.
SPOCK: One hundred thousand kilometres. They should commence firing at us within the next twelve point seven seconds.
KIRK: Scotty.
[Engineering]
SCOTT: It's ready now, Captain, but I don't know whether our circuits can handle this alien contraption.
[Bridge]
KIRK: Throw the switch.
[Engineering]
SCOTT: It'll likely overload.
[Bridge]
KIRK: Throw the switch.
(Scott does, and the Enterprise gently vanishes, like a Cheshire cat.
I wonder what Scotty would have made of Mr. Toyo's power distribution system with fusible links, or the giant, power wasting resistor to make 6 volts for the fuel pump in cruise....


your space age approach to verifying oil pressure was nothing less the totally fascinating to me earlier as i studied all the tech spec. data etc .... 🤔

i learn something new and special every day on MUD , and this was today's time in class and the LAB .....:)

Good Show !

matt
 
I'm more of a Kirkite than a Picardist--for obvious reasons.
View attachment 2666387

But Scotty is my inspiration!

View attachment 2666388

[Bridge]
KIRK: Scotty, we're running out of time.
[Engineering]
SCOTT: Captain, I'm working as fast as I can.
[Bridge]
COMMANDER: You see, Captain? Your effort is being wasted.
KIRK: Mister Spock, distance from the Romulan vessel?
SPOCK: One hundred and fifty thousand kilometres, Captain, and closing very rapidly.
KIRK: Stand by, phasers. Commander, you'll forgive me if I put up a fight.
COMMANDER: Of course. It's expected.
SPOCK: One hundred thousand kilometres. They should commence firing at us within the next twelve point seven seconds.
KIRK: Scotty.
[Engineering]
SCOTT: It's ready now, Captain, but I don't know whether our circuits can handle this alien contraption.
[Bridge]
KIRK: Throw the switch.
[Engineering]
SCOTT: It'll likely overload.
[Bridge]
KIRK: Throw the switch.
(Scott does, and the Enterprise gently vanishes, like a Cheshire cat.
I wonder what Scotty would have made of Mr. Toyo's power distribution system with fusible links, or the giant, power wasting resistor to make 6 volts for the fuel pump in cruise....


this was My Selfie i took earlier as i Googled " oil pressure transducer." \








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this was My Selfie i took earlier as i Googled " oil pressure transducer." \
I drove across the country with my son staring at this:
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(Note the little red warning light under the 10 psi reading.)

This was our RJ77. No oil pressure reading on the instrument cluster, no obvious fix. The only thing I was sure of was that I could get aftermarket gauges and throw them on the dashboard. I watched that number nervously across 2800 miles. The oil pressure in that little 22R was too low for comfort but I had had no opportunity to change it before the trip. It would go below 10 psi when really warm.

From another forum I learned that the Field Service Manual for a Toyota truck 22R of a similar vintages shows:

Oil Pressure:

- At idle speed (normal operating temperature) -> 4.3 psi
- At 3000 rpm (normal operating temperature) -> 36 psi.

I think it might have touched 30 when cold but most of the time at what must have been about 2800 rpm it would drift down under 10 which did make me a bit nervous. We are planning another drive from Las Vegas back to the East Coast this summer. I am going to do my best to have the oil pump changed.
 
- I took a crack at Reproducing the 60010 about 2 years ago , using all Dealer Sourced Connectors & Terminals

- I was Going for the Total Kit Plug and Play Package , Colored Tape & All

- The YAZAKI brand Terminals & Connector housings turned out to be Very Expensive in the end







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I need this cable, would you be willing to make a batch or quote a price?
 
Hello, a great greeting, I know that several years have passed since this publication but I hope you can help me. I bought a 1994 80 series a year ago and it turns out that the oil pressure indicator on the dashboard doesn't work, the oil pressure valve has it but it turns out that I can't find the cables anywhere so I can't make it work. works, if someone is so kind as to show me where the wires that go to the valve come from so that I can create a new wiring and make it work, I would appreciate it.
 
Hello, a great greeting, I know that several years have passed since this publication but I hope you can help me. I bought a 1994 80 series a year ago and it turns out that the oil pressure indicator on the dashboard doesn't work, the oil pressure valve has it but it turns out that I can't find the cables anywhere so I can't make it work. works, if someone is so kind as to show me where the wires that go to the valve come from so that I can create a new wiring and make it work, I would appreciate it.
The wires to the oil pressure sending unit are in this wire loom in the pic. One of the wires for mine was broken close to the edge loom and hard to see.
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Hey man.
I recently had what I think is the exact problem as you had with the gauge after pressure washing/degreasing my engine bay to diagnose an oil leak on my (nearly identical to yours) 97 LX. My gauge started reading erratically last night and soon after spiked and is stuck at the H even when the engine is off and key is out. I ordered a new harness and sending unit to my local dealer (Airport Toyota) and it should be here Wednesday.

I plan on attempting to fix the gauge the same way you did, I am in the Knoxville area as well, by any chance would you be willing to lend a hand adjusting it back? I’d be happy to pay you for your time with assisting (Money, beer, food, parts) whatever method you’d prefer. It looks simple enough but having someone who has done it before would be a huge help. If not it’s totally fine and I appreciate the very helpful write up!
 
Hey man.
I recently had what I think is the exact problem as you had with the gauge after pressure washing/degreasing my engine bay to diagnose an oil leak on my (nearly identical to yours) 97 LX. My gauge started reading erratically last night and soon after spiked and is stuck at the H even when the engine is off and key is out. I ordered a new harness and sending unit to my local dealer (Airport Toyota) and it should be here Wednesday.

I plan on attempting to fix the gauge the same way you did, I am in the Knoxville area as well, by any chance would you be willing to lend a hand adjusting it back? I’d be happy to pay you for your time with assisting (Money, beer, food, parts) whatever method you’d prefer. It looks simple enough but having someone who has done it before would be a huge help. If not it’s totally fine and I appreciate the very helpful write up!

I’ll shoot you a PM. In all honesty I hardly have time to work on my own these days, but I’ll gladly be a phone a friend if you hit a snag. (Though admittedly my memory is pretty fuzzy on this.).

Be sure to watch that other guys YouTube video I linked on my first post cause I remember it helping a lot in getting the cluster out at least.
 
Hey man.
I recently had what I think is the exact problem as you had with the gauge after pressure washing/degreasing my engine bay to diagnose an oil leak on my (nearly identical to yours) 97 LX. My gauge started reading erratically last night and soon after spiked and is stuck at the H even when the engine is off and key is out. I ordered a new harness and sending unit to my local dealer (Airport Toyota) and it should be here Wednesday.

I plan on attempting to fix the gauge the same way you did, I am in the Knoxville area as well, by any chance would you be willing to lend a hand adjusting it back? I’d be happy to pay you for your time with assisting (Money, beer, food, parts) whatever method you’d prefer. It looks simple enough but having someone who has done it before would be a huge help. If not it’s totally fine and I appreciate the very helpful write up!
I’ll shoot you a PM. In all honesty I hardly have time to work on my own these days, but I’ll gladly be a phone a friend if you hit a snag. (Though admittedly my memory is pretty fuzzy on this.).

Be sure to watch that other guys YouTube video I linked on my first post cause I remember it helping a lot in getting the cluster out at least.


my all oem parts hand assembled reproduction
82221-60010 's have been updated / improved upon a bit since last posting here ....


i use a different main round BUTTON brass sender button terminal and connector housing it self , on BOTh the main round on for sender and the SOLID one for the DEDICATED male spade terminal needed ground tab ,

this is what DOES get mixed up by a person or ship that is NOT aware , the round button connector housing can actually be easily FORCED onto the Grounding tab by mistake


the ground tab plastic connector housing is SOLID and cannot be force fed onto the round copper button on center of round bell sender to be clear here



i would have a uniquely perspective here and can accurately state the fact of certainty , that approx. exactly 1/2 or 50 % of 1FZ-FE owners find me becasue a HUMAN error is involved mix up , the old crusty harness gets blown off during a engine bay wash , or just rattles of after 20+ 30 years ....

or the tiny azz 22 gauge wire on one or both severs from age time and corrasion


the owner preforms a low tech 2 new spade female terminals crimp on , at the auto zone parking lot , and mixes them up ...

the other GOOD 50 % ish or 1/2 fall victim to shear fate and bad luck no fault of there own ,here


the copper center button connector wire severs at the brass yazaki tin terminal inside the connector housing , hence it is still attached to the untrained human eye ,


but that now frayed tinned copper fine stand wire ., conductor starts to whip around in that space cavity in the engine bay out of visual site , and it dont take long before it finds a happy litte place to get stuck in a groove or mating joint of 2 metal parts , then its all OVER from there sadly ... :confused:



if this was intentionally done in my own T-TEN land cruiser shop laboratory under the above controlled conditions , i would and could say from KEY ON onset of the button wire finding and staying put on a neg- grounded signal ....

i would say the life expectancy of the guage pods , and blue printed circut board , and the mechanical oil guage itself , its COIL winding and bi-metalic spring that moves from thermal heas resistence pulsing signal normally when all system parts are good and correct ,,,,


is a total time window of LESS then 29 metric seconds hands down , no way those parts will take a CONSTANT non-pulsing NEG- ground full on signal ant longer then that



i have been show cell phone fumbling video clips of a real smoke cloud erupting from under the steering column into the drivers face !


i wish i had saved one , its a fascinating technical thing to see occur as is just happens in less then 29 seconds , it is best described as a TOTAL system melt down

it stops on its own after all the copper windings turn to ashes latterly , and the short circuit of B+ power has nothing left to travel through ......



that is the 411 on what does happen if and when the short circuit does occur naturally , it would be the same for a human mix up too , however , a tach at a shop usually starts a finished job up in the service bay via a arm and hand through a open drivers side window , by habit , to check there work for non related leaks and to get OIL up, though a NEW fresh oil and filter change , to recheck the dip stick and top off when necessary after the filter fills up and anti drain back valve holds that 1/2 top full qt inside depending on what filter of the week toyota decides to use ?


the time window from a in a hurry start up to backing up out a service bay to finding the first open parking hole just outside a busy shop rolling automatic FAST speed garage door motor can be a 10-11 seconds flat time window in all reality too


so you see my points above now , the nest driver , of that 1FZ-FE can be the victim of the melt down smoke cloud too !

i have been working at a Toyota service dept. back in the day when i was still with toyota and this scenerio did play out clear as yesterday a few hand fulls of times ....

not to me luckily ....

i did find broken oil sender wires before they found the ground NEG signal

i only ever had the dreaded learning on the job experience of a all day mind boggling WTF happened here that ONLY paid 1 single billable diagnoses flat rate hour ,

the junk yard delivered a used complete cluster days later , and the 82221-60010 or later 60021 was replaced too and off to SOCCAR MOMs day camp that Green pearl metallic ALL 80 in my mid Atlantic happened to be oddly >

i cant recall right now if i ever saw the kool paint codes back then , i do Remberger the kooler green upper body and pewter silver below the side body belt moldings all around or 2-toners i called them .....



you always saw this here or the below , many had a unique clear coat delamination of a original factory paint job on hood , roof and back hatch too !





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This is now a must-have om all my personal TOYOTA Family Fleet ,

fortunately , all have Mechanical Oil senders & real cluster meter oil gauges , not some silly blinking
RED-Light .......

GHOST & SUPER HILUX , both have stand alone YAZAKI 52mm POD-OIL-Gauges , i chose the Electrical in-put-signal type / style over the Sketchy Capillary tube equipped OEM YAZAKI 52mm oil pods.....

wifey's 2002 Taco Pre-Runner 5VZ-FE does also have the Gauge cluster real oil mechanical needle , but i chose to simply install the included OEM Service / Delete Cap w/ the
mystery GREEN Dry Loch-Tite Stuff , for future MANUAL pressure testing read-out use , and maybe 52mm YAZAKI POD later ...


finding the correct OEM Mechanical Bell-Sender was as easy as purchasing qty x 2 for GHOST 5/89 FJ62LG-PNEK
3F-E , it has also been updated with the additional male spade grounding terminal
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