Oil Pressure Gauge FIX

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On the FZJ , The Early Sub Harness 82221-60010 , that covers : Is Discontinued

ToyotaLand Cruiser1992-1997

  • 8 Cyl 4.5L
1FZFE; 1FZFE; FZJ80


On the FZJ , The Early Sub Harness 82221-60020 , that ONLY covers : Is available



ToyotaLand Cruiser1996-1997

  • 8 Cyl 4.5L
1FZFE; 1FZFE; FZJ80

What is the difference between them, IIRC have swapped them without issue? If they interchange, why would Toyota continue to make the old one? But have never tried one from a "8 Cyl 4.5L" so maybe that is the difference?
 
What is the difference between them, IIRC have swapped them without issue? If they interchange, why would Toyota continue to make the old one? But have never tried one from a "8 Cyl 4.5L" so maybe that is the difference?


the 60010 has a series of diodes & resisters built into the harness the 60020 does not

there not compatible like that / interchangeability ?
 
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the 60010 has a series of diodes & resisters built into the harness the 60020 does not

im not sure if there compatible like that / interchangeability ?

The only thing the EWD shows is a noise limiting capacitor on the early version, not likely to effect anything. If Toyota found it to be unnecessary, that would be a reason for the early version to be discontinued.
 
im not sure if there compatible like that / interchangeability ?

they are interchangeable, my harness with the resistors or whatever extra stuff is in there broke a wire somewhere in there so I picked up a used later version and it works with no issues. I think that when I looked up the 60020 number that also came up as nla, but I can check at work if needed.

I saved the old one for when I really need something to do to remake the harness with the old connectors
 
they are interchangeable, my harness with the resistors or whatever extra stuff is in there broke a wire somewhere in there so I picked up a used later version and it works with no issues. I think that when I looked up the 60020 number that also came up as nla, but I can check at work if needed.

I saved the old one for when I really need something to do to remake the harness with the old connectors









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Well, like many on here, I’ve experienced the dead oil pressure gauge in the dash of my 80. While most would probably say, “replace the gauge and move on”, I am really cheap, and felt like taking the dash apart…

To give you a little background. My gauge worked when I purchased my 80, and after I replaced the thermostat for some reason my oil pressure gauge didn’t register anything anymore, but it would occasionally bounce around. After some digging, I found I must’ve broken one of the wires to the sending unit while replacing the thermostat. By being lazy and not addressing it quickly, I believe the wire grounded out long enough to burn up the gauge, sort of. So, it eventually stopped bouncing and stayed dead all the time. Once I put a new terminal end on the wire and hooked it back up, it was too late. The gauge remained dead. So, I decided to figure out what I broke.

I started by performing the test in the FSM in order to determine if it was the gauge or sending unit. I started by testing the sender cause I didn’t have the 3.4W bulb required for the gauge test.

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The sending unit passed the test (as expected); so, I had to find a 3.4w bulb at the auto parts store. I also bought a pigtail light socket for marker light that would fit the bulb while I was there. I then followed the FSM for testing the gauge.
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While the FSM illustration is maybe a little confusing, I am assuming with the 3.4W bulb, the needle should sweep all the way to high based on the verbiage in the FSM. Well, while mine did sweep a little, which gave me hope, it fell short of making it to high (you can imagine the excitement as it began to move, and then total let down as it stopped short).

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After doing some digging on here, I found some pics of people’s gauges with the engine off. While most people’s oil pressure needle rested right at the first mark when off, Mine well was well below.

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So, the next step was to test the gauge resistance in the back of the combination meter aka cluster.

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I really like to know how plastic dash pieces come apart before I dig in because if you think something is supposed to pop off and it’s not, you end up breaking plastic pieces, which is always heart wrenching… I found this great video on youtube that someone made on the cluster removal (if it was someone on here, THANKS it was very helpful!):



Once the dash was out, I again used the FSM to test it.

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Based on the fact that I

1) had an in spec Ohms reading on the gauge

2) the gauge needle did move (though not much)

3) the resting position of the gauge was really low.

This led me to believe that when the wire grounded out while I was driving, it had buried my gauge so deep into the negatives and bent the internals of the gauge such that normal oil pressure wouldn't give it enough signal to lift off of zero. I decided to try to adjust the resting position of the gauge back to where it was supposed to be and see if that helped. To do this I had to remove the gauge from the cluster. This is done by:

1) Opening the cluster, which involves releasing the plastic tabs connecting the cover of the cluster. There are some on top bottom and both sides, so gradually and gently as to preserve old plastic.

2) Once the cluster cover is off. Remove the screws on the back of the cluster that are associated with the oil pressure gauge.

3) Once the screws are removed, the gauge can be gently pulled out.

With the gauge out, I was able to twist on the circled piece in the below pic until the gauge was resting at the first mark on the gauge.
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Once I did that, I checked the ohms again, and I was actually a hair above spec post adjustment, but I decided to roll with it anyway.

Once reassembled, I test drove it, and it has been operating perfectly. In all honesty, I didn’t expect the gauge to operate in the same range as before, but as long as I had some repeatable operation, that’s all the accuracy I really see in the factory gauge anyway. So, I would say I’m super pumped at the outcome! I dug through the bowls of mud when I was trying to narrow down my problem and avoid buying another gauge, and at the time, I didn't see where anyone tried this. Hopefully, this thread allows others to give it a shot if you have similar test results.







Right on man! I was at a loss with mine... everything checked out. Just took my dash apart , re-aligned and its working perfectly :D

Thanks for the info
 
I did that same thing!! Grounded it out and now it won't read anything. Thanks for the info


I found the bi metallic strip must have got waaay to hot and pushed the needle past the stop, virtually impossible to see even with my glasses on. Once found and put back in the right place it was fine.

regards

Dave
 
Well, like many on here, I’ve experienced the dead oil pressure gauge in the dash of my 80. While most would probably say, “replace the gauge and move on”, I am really cheap, and felt like taking the dash apart…

To give you a little background. My gauge worked when I purchased my 80, and after I replaced the thermostat for some reason my oil pressure gauge didn’t register anything anymore, but it would occasionally bounce around. After some digging, I found I must’ve broken one of the wires to the sending unit while replacing the thermostat. By being lazy and not addressing it quickly, I believe the wire grounded out long enough to burn up the gauge, sort of. So, it eventually stopped bouncing and stayed dead all the time. Once I put a new terminal end on the wire and hooked it back up, it was too late. The gauge remained dead. So, I decided to figure out what I broke.

I started by performing the test in the FSM in order to determine if it was the gauge or sending unit. I started by testing the sender cause I didn’t have the 3.4W bulb required for the gauge test.

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The sending unit passed the test (as expected); so, I had to find a 3.4w bulb at the auto parts store. I also bought a pigtail light socket for marker light that would fit the bulb while I was there. I then followed the FSM for testing the gauge.
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While the FSM illustration is maybe a little confusing, I am assuming with the 3.4W bulb, the needle should sweep all the way to high based on the verbiage in the FSM. Well, while mine did sweep a little, which gave me hope, it fell short of making it to high (you can imagine the excitement as it began to move, and then total let down as it stopped short).

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After doing some digging on here, I found some pics of people’s gauges with the engine off. While most people’s oil pressure needle rested right at the first mark when off, Mine well was well below.

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So, the next step was to test the gauge resistance in the back of the combination meter aka cluster.

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I really like to know how plastic dash pieces come apart before I dig in because if you think something is supposed to pop off and it’s not, you end up breaking plastic pieces, which is always heart wrenching… I found this great video on youtube that someone made on the cluster removal (if it was someone on here, THANKS it was very helpful!):



Once the dash was out, I again used the FSM to test it.

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Based on the fact that I

1) had an in spec Ohms reading on the gauge

2) the gauge needle did move (though not much)

3) the resting position of the gauge was really low.

This led me to believe that when the wire grounded out while I was driving, it had buried my gauge so deep into the negatives and bent the internals of the gauge such that normal oil pressure wouldn't give it enough signal to lift off of zero. I decided to try to adjust the resting position of the gauge back to where it was supposed to be and see if that helped. To do this I had to remove the gauge from the cluster. This is done by:

1) Opening the cluster, which involves releasing the plastic tabs connecting the cover of the cluster. There are some on top bottom and both sides, so gradually and gently as to preserve old plastic.

2) Once the cluster cover is off. Remove the screws on the back of the cluster that are associated with the oil pressure gauge.

3) Once the screws are removed, the gauge can be gently pulled out.

With the gauge out, I was able to twist on the circled piece in the below pic until the gauge was resting at the first mark on the gauge.
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Once I did that, I checked the ohms again, and I was actually a hair above spec post adjustment, but I decided to roll with it anyway.

Once reassembled, I test drove it, and it has been operating perfectly. In all honesty, I didn’t expect the gauge to operate in the same range as before, but as long as I had some repeatable operation, that’s all the accuracy I really see in the factory gauge anyway. So, I would say I’m super pumped at the outcome! I dug through the bowls of mud when I was trying to narrow down my problem and avoid buying another gauge, and at the time, I didn't see where anyone tried this. Hopefully, this thread allows others to give it a shot if you have similar test results.


This is exactly how my gauge is working. Sometimes it will rise to just above the low mark, maybe a needle breadth or so but usually is below the line. Thank you for the excellent write up
 
Is my harness missing a piece/connector to actually hook up to the oil pressure sending unit? I can’t for the life of me figure out how this sob would possibly hook up with the mysterious grey connecter there.

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Nvm took me 2 mins to realize that the black sensor was in the wrong place. Just had to swap em. The gauge used to read super duper high, now it doesn’t work. Guess I’m taking apart the gauges as well.
 
Thanks for the write up, fixed my oil pressure gauge that hasn't worked properly since I've owned the truck. But I screwed up the temp gauge and now its reading super hot even when cold...
 
A bit of a hijack and not that anyone cares... but, I found the quickest solution to remounting the temp needle is remove the plastic cover on the gauge cluster housing. Turn the truck on, let it run until its at operating temperature, put the needle where you "think/remember" being your normal op temp. In my experience if you take the temp gauge apart, its very tricky, near impossible, to get the needle placed correctly AND for it to return to below the Cold line when its off.
 
Does anyone know what the toyota "Test LED" tool is?
Is it really just an LED and no accompanying current limiting components?
I've been trying to search but all I can find is stuff about LED bulbs, dash lights, etc.

I don't want to test my sender only to burn it out by short circuiting it if it doesn't have its own current limiting circuitry...
 
OK, I'll bite: where did you find the reference to the "test LED"?
 
Does anyone know what the toyota "Test LED" tool is?
Is it really just an LED and no accompanying current limiting components?
I've been trying to search but all I can find is stuff about LED bulbs, dash lights, etc.

I don't want to test my sender only to burn it out by short circuiting it if it doesn't have its own current limiting circuitry...

Not sure what the official Toyota SST is but I used a computer circuit safe LED tester. It’s basically a test light for sensitive circuits. It’s been many moons since my original post but it did not harm my sending unit.
 
Not sure what the official Toyota SST is but I used a computer circuit safe LED tester. It’s basically a test light for sensitive circuits. It’s been many moons since my original post but it did not harm my sending unit.

That's exactly what I needed to hear, so it does need its own current limiting device.
For other people doing this who don't have an LED test light, a 600-1100 ohm resistor in line with a regular red LED should work perfectly (it'll give 10-20 mA through the LED which should be plenty visible)

OK, I'll bite: where did you find the reference to the "test LED"?
Right on the first post.
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I'm guessing (since I haven't seen it yet, I'll probably get around to it tomorrow) that maybe it is too high frequency for a standard test light to display it, or that using a test light would pull too much power from it so they specified an LED test light.
 
Thank you @TNOverlander for this awesome fix! my 60 has had this problem for years, had to install an unsightly manual gauge after trying 3 senders. Then a new used lx450 had this issue. so I found this thread and attempted it on my 60. I have a working oil pressure gauge now!
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- I took a crack at Reproducing the 60010 about 2 years ago , using all Dealer Sourced Connectors & Terminals

- I was Going for the Total Kit Plug and Play Package , Colored Tape & All

- The YAZAKI brand Terminals & Connector housings turned out to be Very Expensive in the end







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thanks for your photos, I was curious how the noise filter was attached. Glad to see its just 'taped' to the wiring harness. I thought I was missing a bracket or something... Great work.
 

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