Number Imported to the US

[Living in the Past]

I do believe Jim has seen one as late as 63. I know he has a 62 FJ25 produced in 1960. I myself have a FJ40 or what's left of an FJ40 that was titled in 61 with a 61 production number. As far as I can tell it was 202 of the FJ40 off the line. That's if Toyota started with a 10,001 production number. Which I believe to be true since it took a few years more to hit 20,000. Plus this one has a lot of FJ25 carry over parts. Bumper type, apron intake and large gas cap.


John

 

[Bubba's59FJ]

It would be interesting to know what all this means relative to the actual number of FJ25's built for the U.S. market. I know it has been discussed before. After looking over these numbers, here is another way to speculate about it and reach a conclusion that a total of 400 FJ25 units were built and shipped to the U.S. market.

Presumably the sales numbers for Land Cruisers in 1958, 1959 and 1960 were all FJ25's. So that adds up to 224 units (1958-1, 1959-61 and 1960-162). In 1961 Toyota knew the new model was coming and would have pushed hard to move the old models out of the port. Purely a guess but it would seem likely that 65% of the FJ sales in 1961 could have been and should have been FJ25's, so add another 164 FJ25's for a total of 390. A few stragglers finally sold at retail by smaller dealers in 1962 or 1963, maybe another 10 units, and it would appear that no more than 400 FJ25's were ever built for or destined for the U.S. market.

Does this make sense? Any other ideas?

 

[Living in the Past]

It would be interesting to know what all this means relative to the actual number of FJ25's built for the U.S. market. I know it has been discussed before. After looking over these numbers, here is another way to speculate about it and reach a conclusion that a total of 400 FJ25 units were built and shipped to the U.S. market.

Presumably the sales numbers for Land Cruisers in 1958, 1959 and 1960 were all FJ25's. So that adds up to 224 units (1958-1, 1959-61 and 1960-162). In 1961 Toyota knew the new model was coming and would have pushed hard to move the old models out of the port. Purely a guess but it would seem likely that 65% of the FJ sales in 1961 could have been and should have been FJ25's, so add another 164 FJ25's for a total of 390. A few stragglers finally sold at retail by smaller dealers in 1962 or 1963, maybe another 10 units, and it would appear that no more than 400 FJ25's were ever built for or destined for the U.S. market.

Does this make sense? Any other ideas?

This might be scary but it does to me. If they counted the number sold or the number imported in a year would make all the difference. Even if it was the number imported does anyone know for sure that all the FJ25 hit all our ports before 1961.

John

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

it is titled as a 59

and how early do you think the one you sold is ?

The one I sold to Nick was 8FJ25-6895 other than that, all that we know about it was that it was a hardtop. There are some earlier ones in the states, but those were not originally imported here.

I do believe Jim has seen one as llate as 63

My latest titled date is 1962 on a 1960, I think that's about the max I've ever seen for titling after production.

Don't know if this will help or confuse the issue:

0FJ25-20847 stamped and titled 1962
0FJ25-20848 stamped 1961 no title
0FJ25-20849 stamped and titled 1960

Maybe they parked them down a dead end alley and were shipping and titling from the back of the line...................


Also, I posted these before, maybe you can back into the numbers. Both the same source, I interpret the titles as "total sales" and "total registrations" per year:

 

[Living in the Past]

I do believe Jim has seen one as late as 63. I know he has a 62 FJ25 produced in 1960. I myself have a FJ40 or what's left of an FJ40 that was titled in 61 with a 61 production number. As far as I can tell it was 202 of the FJ40 off the line. That's if Toyota started with a 10,001 production number. Which I believe to be true since it took a few years more to hit 20,000. Plus this one has a lot of FJ25 carry over parts. Bumper type, apron intake and large gas cap.


John

So were we talking about how late it was before Toyota changed the door opening in the FJ40 soft top model? We now know 63 still had it but years ago we weren't as sure. Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it

 

[67azcruizr]

you guys need to find out this guys story.

It looks as if someone replaced some parts, windshield, bib?

In the article it states that the original owner made a special order on the vehicle?

This might throw a wrench into what the earliest import might have been.


https://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/230104-new-person-saying-hello.html

 

[Archie 1962 FJ25]

I think, I need to log in here more often otherwise Jim wiil forget me for ever.

Mine is 1959' and titled as 1962 (VIN - 9FJ25-11348L)

The one I sold to Nick was 8FJ25-6895 other than that, all that we know about it was that it was a hardtop. There are some earlier ones in the states, but those were not originally imported here.



My latest titled date is 1962 on a 1960, I think that's about the max I've ever seen for titling after production.

Don't know if this will help or confuse the issue:

0FJ25-20847 stamped and titled 1962
0FJ25-20848 stamped 1961 no title
0FJ25-20849 stamped and titled 1960

Maybe they parked them down a dead end alley and were shipping and titling from the back of the line...................


Also, I posted these before, maybe you can back into the numbers. Both the same source, I interpret the titles as "total sales" and "total registrations" per year:

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

I think, I need to log in here more often otherwise Jim wiil forget me for ever.

Mine is 1959' and titled as 1962 (VIN - 9FJ25-11348L)

Archie Who?

Well now I remember, yeah the biggest spread I know of between production and title is three years.

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

you guys need to find out this guys story.

That is a great story especially if you have someone who had contact with the original owner. But.....................it wasn't imported to the US until 1970.

 

[Living in the Past]

Okay here's something else to think about. My two older FJ25s have the black VIN Plate but the newer two FJ25s have the silver plate.Tthat's all fine and dandy until you look at my 1961 FJ40 which has a black plate. So do you think the FJ40 was sold before the later FJ25s (both are titled as 1961 or was this somethihg they did at the port and just ran out of black VIN plates and switched at different times across the country. One of the later 25s shows on the title as first being registered in May 1960

John

 

[Bubba's59FJ]

I feel certain that the VIN plates were put on the ports. If not they were simply mailed to the dealer who purchased the car along with the vehicle's papework, but I am pretty sure they were affixed to the firewall before being shipped.

It could very well be that the FJ40 was sold before the last FJ25 you have with the silver plate. However, it is also possible the cars came into different ports. One port operation (LA for example) could have run out of the old plate while another port operation (say Portland) had some black plates to use up on the new FJ40's before switching to the silver plate.

 

[strever]

Well, it's fifteen units older than the one I sold..............

Does any body have or know of an lower vin then my 6880 ?
Marv do you have a lower #?

 

[NoMoreFires!]

That is a great story especially if you have someone who had contact with the original owner. But.....................it wasn't imported to the US until 1970.

In this post he explains how his dad bought it from the original owner in the early 70s. This would make me think it it possible that it could have been an original 25. I personally know the owner of this car (I turned him onto Mud) and hope he can get this Cruiser back to MO and get started on restoring it, any guess on the value of a well restored 58 fj25?

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

In this post he explains how his dad bought it from the original owner in the early 70s. This would make me think it it possible that it could have been an original 25. I personally know the owner of this car (I turned him onto Mud) and hope he can get this Cruiser back to MO and get started on restoring it, any guess on the value of a well restored 58 fj25?

Oh geez, I certainly hope I'm not causing confusion. Everyone just read his original story.

There are not enough comparables to even come close to guessing at a value. If you want, PM me and I can give you list of those that have changed hands recently and for about how much. The trick is finding a buyer willing to take on a 25, then coming to an agreeable value. My rule of thumb that I'm still sticking with is: Less than a comparable early FJ40 in similar condition. So don't expect big money it is strictly a labor of love/hate for the die hard Cruiser nut.

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

Does any body have or know of an lower vin then my 6880 ?

Yes, much lower, it would be up to the owners' to share the numbers. But, those I know of were most likely not imported by Toyota. The only way to pin down the first official imports would be to obtain the VIN's from Toyota. Start digging!

 

[strever]

Jim
you don't count, you seem to know almost everybody's #
which BTW: why doesn't the 25 group have a registry ?
i was hoping at least some body would step up with an OLD vin # ?
has this been hashed over many times before ?
my 25 came out of central Oregon, and i just thought it had a REALLY old vin #
are there physical differences between the factory and private imports ?

thanks

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

Jim
you don't count, you seem to know almost everybody's #
which BTW: why doesn't the 25 group have a registry ?
i was hoping at least some body would step up with an OLD vin # ?
has this been hashed over many times before ?
my 25 came out of central Oregon, and i just thought it had a REALLY old vin #
are there physical differences between the factory and private imports ?

thanks

Ha - ha. No registry, I accumulated a lot of pictures and info from folks before this forum was around. Not sure how they would feel about my sharing numbers or names. Someday I'll try to get something together.


Seriously, the only way to resolve the import question is that someone needs to work with Toyota to recover the info. It has to be somewhere.

Physical differences? No VIN plate, Spanish VIN plate, or Japanese VIN plate is usually a dead giveaway. Otherwise, no. Oops, A-Type soft top bows too.................

 

[JohnnyC]

Landpimp was talking about the toyotas brought in to usa in 57... i bet the one sold in 58 was the one that was taken to the Los Angeles import automobile show in early January 58' ... that truck would most definitly be a 1957 FJ25

old thread revival

this was the same show that datsun made its debute...

link: http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/...rin-cars-los-angeless-1958-imported-car-show/

 

[fj40ingkc]

I've actually thought of leasing mine to a dealership.... bet they'd pay well for one. Although they'd probably want to put a bezel on it to match the FJ Cruiser

For the lazy:

1958
Crown - 287
Land Cruiser - 1

1959
Crown - 967
Land Cruiser - 61

1960
Crown - 659
Land Cruiser - 162

1961
Corona - 102
Crown - 225
Land Cruiser - 249

1962
Corona - 39
Crown - 74
Land Cruiser - 598

1963
Corona - 12
Crown - 28
Land Cruiser - 1,056

1964
Corona - 270
Crown - 74
Land Cruiser - 1,681
Stout - 4

1965
Corona - 1,422
Tiara - 318
Crown - 1,107
Land Cruiser - 2,595
Stout - 962

1966
Corona - 14,764
Crown - 1,647
Land Cruiser - 3,072
Stout - 1,425

1967
Corona - 31,099
2000GT - 13
Crown - 2,351
Land Cruiser - 2,782
Stout - 1,828

1968
Corolla - 7,247
Corona - 56,617
Crown - 3,798
Land Cruiser - 3,775

1969
Corolla - 27,443
Corona - 79,354
Mark II - 10,480
Crown - 5,792
Pickup - 1,756
Land Cruiser - 5,216

1970
Corolla - 64,098
Corona - 55,781
Mark II - 62,342
Crown - 6,528
Pickup - 11,566
Land Cruiser - 8,000

1971
Corolla - 116,435
Corona - 67,858
Carina - 939
Mark II - 78,092
Celica - 17,572
Crown - 3,934
Pickup - 14,974
Land Cruiser - 9,559

1972
Corolla - 108,896
Corona - 49,477
Carina - 24,413
Mark II - 59,744
Celica - 40,485
Crown - 918
Pickup - 15,363
Land Cruiser - 11,982

1973
Corolla - 115,463
Corona - 60,555
Carina - 14,824
Mark II - 24,983
Celica - 58,869
Crown - 49
Pickup - 36,731
Land Cruiser - 11,082

1974
Corolla - 101,894
Corona - 52,714
Carina - 87
Mark II - 13,933
Celica - 59,172
Pickup - 30,871
Land Cruiser - 8,204

1975
Corolla - 151,177
Corona - 44,156
Carina - 62
Mark II - 8,736
Celica - 64,922
Pickup - 44,450
Land Cruiser - 9,050

1976
Corolla - 187,321
Corona - 38,638
Mark II - 5,064
Celica - 100,438
Pickup - 49,077
Land Cruiser - 9,236

1977
Corolla - 259,344
Corona - 50,259
Cressida - 2,526
Celica - 163,714
Pickup - 82,891
Land Cruiser - 9,924

1978
Corolla - 212,757
Corona - 34,823
Cressida - 12,484
Celica - 167,366
Pickup - 93,890
Land Cruiser - 8,858

1979
Corolla - 274,934
Corona - 36,570
Cressida - 11,910
Celica - 146,608
Supra - 26,207
Crown - 1
Pickup - 128,796
Land Cruiser - 5,716

Any idea where to find this info now? links look broken. looking for 1980's numbers. thanks! -max

 

[fj40ingkc]

Any idea where to find this info now? links look broken. looking for 1980's numbers. thanks! -max

Ok found some missing years/data, here is the link: https://www.coolcruisers.com/howmanlancru.html wish it was divided so fj40 and fj60 were called out.

• 1980.......3,058........FJ40 / FJ55
• 1981.......2,027........FJ40 / FJ60
• 1982.......3,088........FJ40 / FJ60
• 1983.......4,805........FJ40 / FJ60