New 7X in North America?

[madams557]

Well there you go. Maybe there is something about Canada that us southerners don't know about. I've never considered my lifted 80-series much of a chick magnet.


Of course the Winnie the Pooh bear sunscreen and carseats are probably a gigantic turn off.

Sometimes I wonder if I put a fart-tube on the back with a five-point seat harness and nitro'd the 80 I might get more wanting looks.

Who needs all that jazz anyway when you're married.

 

[Stone]

Of course the Winnie the Pooh bear sunscreen and carseats are probably a gigantic turn off.

LOL.

 

[madams557]

LOL.

From a man that understands my pain!!

 

[tlcruiserman]

JDM cars no good in CA; RH drive illegal after manuf. date '72 or so, I can't see that changing...ever.

I am not sure where you got your information but it is not correct.

Michael

 

[beanz2]

Yep, some Subarus and Jeep Cherokees at least until recently are still available in RHD for rural postal carriers.

Dave

 

[SNLC]

Good old thread so I am bumping it.

Cheers

 

[SteveJackson]

@cruiseroutfit can comment, but he has been in several meetings with high level TMS personnel and even Sadayoshi Koyari (Land Cruiser lead at TMC in Japan). The topic of 70's in the USA always comes up, and the response can be summarized as "it's not happening, ever".

JDM cars no good in CA; RH drive illegal after manuf. date '72 or so, I can't see that changing...ever.

I'm not sure why you're saying this. There's a huge JDM vehicle industry in California. There are some emissions issues, but there are RHD vehicles all over California.

 

[ca18sean]

@cruiseroutfit can comment, but he has been in several meetings with high level TMS personnel and even Sadayoshi Koyari (Land Cruiser lead at TMC in Japan). The topic of 70's in the USA always comes up, and the response can be summarized as "it's not happening, ever".



I'm not sure why you're saying this. There's a huge JDM vehicle industry in California. There are some emissions issues, but there are RHD vehicles all over California.

It's a 12 year old thread... maybe back in 2005 people didn't really understand all the importing rules as well as they do today?

 

[OGBeno]

@cruiseroutfit can comment, but he has been in several meetings with high level TMS personnel and even Sadayoshi Koyari (Land Cruiser lead at TMC in Japan). The topic of 70's in the USA always comes up, and the response can be summarized as "it's not happening, ever".



I'm not sure why you're saying this. There's a huge JDM vehicle industry in California. There are some emissions issues, but there are RHD vehicles all over California.

Correct. This is pretty much what CDan and I heard when we were in Japan visiting the Yoshiwara plant as well...

Pretty much said: no way Jose.



Bet money on tequila.

 

[hobbes]

We all want something with 80 series axles/locker/suspension, 79 series engine/trans/x-fer, 40 series body designed updated to modern standards. Toyota wants nothing to do with a project like that. They state it over and over. I believe them when they say they won't.

 

[gkanai]

If you think about this logically, selling the 70 in the US makes no economic sense for TMS. TMS already sells the widest variety of 4WD Toyotas in any market, more than in Japan. A 70 Series would only eat into their own market share of similar vehicles, be it the Tacoma or 4Runner, and only raise costs in parts/service. The US-built Toyotas are much more profitable than the Araco/JP built ones, so any economic argument would be lost.

I worked at Toyota HQ in Torrance for 4 years (back in the 90s, but one year in Strategic Planning when George Borst was VP, so I know what it takes to approve a vehicle for sale in the US and it's a long process with a lot of economic justifications) so I'm not just a random commenter on this board.

When I had the chance to buy a 70 Series new, I did

 

[SNLC]

I bumped the thread for a couple reasons, it is a good old thread showing how times have changed. Also it kind of relates to the escapade of a thread in the 70-series classified section.

Nissan did release a new model of Patrol in something like 2010 or 2012, I don't recall exactly cause I don't like it. However this Y62 model Patrol did make it to the states rebadged as an Infinity. First time we have had a Patrol back on USA soil since 1969. How does this relate to 70-series!? It doesn't I am just tossing useless crap into the wind!

Cheers

 

[Gun Runner 5]

Perhaps I'm inflicted with an old school mentality but I truly don't understand the angst with people who are willing to sacrifice their first born and tons of money to own a new 70 Series. ($50,000.00 - $70,000.00). Acknowledging the obvious engine improvements, what is the 2017 Cruiser (which IS NOT available) capable of doing that the 1992 Cruiser (which IS available) is not. I guess on some level it would be cool to own a vehicle that's unique and ultra rare but doesn't that describe EVERY 70 Series Land Cruiser in the U.S.?

 

[FJ73Texas]

As long it has the D4D V8 diesel engine then I would consider $50K - $70K price. Maybe even 1HZ on the lower end of that range.

Still a lot of money but new Tacoma's are selling for ridiculous prices too.

 

[hobbes]

what is the 2017 Cruiser (which IS NOT available) capable of doing that the 1992 Cruiser (which IS available) is not.

Modern reliability. Zero turn time on everything. I'd buy my 80 series again, if new. But it is over twenty years and counting. No matter how well it was initially when built, that takes its toll.

 

[Gun Runner 5]

Modern reliability. Zero turn time on everything. I'd buy my 80 series again, if new. But it is over twenty years and counting. No matter how well it was initially when built, that takes its toll.

My local Toyota dealership now requires a service appointment to get into their giant garage which is routinely filled with vehicles that have "modern reliability".

 

[FJ73Texas]

My local Toyota dealership now requires a service appointment to get into their giant garage which is routinely filled with vehicles that have "modern reliability".

I bet most of them in that garage are USA / Canada / Mexico made Toyotas, not the Japanese made models.

 

[hobbes]

10 years ago the only non-cup holder problems on the 80 discussed here were the antennas, plugged sun roof drains, head gaskets, and which of the two transmissions would last longer. I get that the 70 and 80 series were uber reliable, but you cannot get those new in the US. And only one is made new anymore, in any event. Which, by the way, Toyota has kept uniquely simplified for reliability reasons. (Another reason it'd never have a market here.)

 

[77cruiser77]

Perhaps I'm inflicted with an old school mentality but I truly don't understand the angst with people who are willing to sacrifice their first born and tons of money to own a new 70 Series. ($50,000.00 - $70,000.00). Acknowledging the obvious engine improvements, what is the 2017 Cruiser (which IS NOT available) capable of doing that the 1992 Cruiser (which IS available) is not. I guess on some level it would be cool to own a vehicle that's unique and ultra rare but doesn't that describe EVERY 70 Series Land Cruiser in the U.S.?

I would buy new if an option. As stated before zero turns on everything and also factory warranty. Who knows, maybe better rust proofing too. Besides, how much do you have into your restored, turbo intercooler HZJ77 including purchase price? My build isn't done yet but it's getting up there in cost. New would've saved me a number of costly set backs.

Another point is people may sacrifice there first born for new but you and I are both guilty of selling off our entire land cruiser fleet just to funnel that money into our 27 year old HZJ77's.

 

[Gun Runner 5]

@77cruiser77 .... "Besides, how much do you have in your restored, turbo, Intercooled HZJ77 including purchase price?"
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Those cost were spread out over time which made it easier to hide from my wife. The cost associated with the purchase of a new Cruiser would be more difficult to hide.