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UCrazyKid

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So I love my 2011 LX570 but I have to say I have hated the brakes. The brakes work but take a lot of effort to haul down this heavy rig. Particularly in the cold (I live with Chicago winters) with the OEM ceramic pads. TODAY I fixed that!
I did a bunch of research and part number cross referencing and some government registration number sleuthing. I learned that the Tundra TRD brake pads fit the LX570 (Thanks to MUD). I learned that cryo treated rotors typically last 3x the life of standard and hold up to heat better (thanks MUD again). Then I figured out that StopTech Sport pads are what Toyota markets and sells as TRD pads at 1/2 the price! (this I dug up by googling images of the TRD pads until I found a photo that was clear enough and of the pad edge that I could see a number code on the friction material. Searching against that number I found it pop up in the government list of approved friction compounds for brakes and it is assigned to CEN (for Centric Brakes). A bit more searching and I learned the registration number is for StopTech's Sport compound and BAM, there you go!
I was unable to find any vendor that listed these pads for the LX/ LC or the rotors with cryo treatment. Armed with the manufacturers part numbers I ordered them from a StopTech distributor and 3 weeks later they showed up. After installing all of it this morning. Which was seriously the easiest vehicle I have ever done a brake job on. I followed the bedding procedure and BAM the brakes are awesome! I am so happy with the outcome. They are quiet and have great bite and stopping power and modulation. I am sure they will continue to improve as the continue to bed. I am expecting greater brake dust from these semi-metallic pads but honestly I don’t care. I’m just glad to be stopping better.

Here are the parts:
Pads: StopTech Street Sport (TRD OEM)
Front 309.13030
Rear 309.13040
Rotors: Centric Cryo Treated
Front: 120.44162CRY
Rear: 120.44157CRY
 
Great info and great detective work....Good job!
 
You maybe able to find the pads for even less... TRD had 40% off last month and someone people bought extras.
 
Fisher23 said:
You maybe able to find the pads for even less... TRD had 40% off last month and someone people bought extras.
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I found the front pads for $80 and rear for $52.
Front rotors for $185 (pair) and rear $166 (pair)
 
Great info. I’m looking to get rid of my TRD pads because of the amount of brake dust. Although new rotors all around are on my list as I approach 60k. Thanks for your efforts.

By chance did you look into upgrading your lines to stainless braided?
I know StopTech makes a kit
 
Fisher23 said:
You maybe able to find the pads for even less... TRD had 40% off last month and someone people bought extras.
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I purchased a set during the 40% discount. With discount, it’s about $60 per set.
 
ElRob said:
Great info. I’m looking to get rid of my TRD pads because of the amount of brake dust. Although new rotors all around are on my list as I approach 60k. Thanks for your efforts.

By chance did you look into upgrading your lines to stainless braided?
I know StopTech makes a kit
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I didn’t do the brake lines as I don’t feel they offer anything. The spongy brakes are a symptom of the master cylinder in this vehicle. My Lexus ISF has rubber line and the pedal is like a rock.
 
UCrazyKid said:
So I love my 2011 LX570 but I have to say I have hated the brakes. The brakes work but take a lot of effort to haul down this heavy rig. Particularly in the cold (I live with Chicago winters) with the OEM ceramic pads. TODAY I fixed that!
I did a bunch of research and part number cross referencing and some government registration number sleuthing. I learned that the Tundra TRD brake pads fit the LX570 (Thanks to MUD). I learned that cryo treated rotors typically last 3x the life of standard and hold up to heat better (thanks MUD again). Then I figured out that StopTech Sport pads are what Toyota markets and sells as TRD pads at 1/2 the price! (this I dug up by googling images of the TRD pads until I found a photo that was clear enough and of the pad edge that I could see a number code on the friction material. Searching against that number I found it pop up in the government list of approved friction compounds for brakes and it is assigned to CEN (for Centric Brakes). A bit more searching and I learned the registration number is for StopTech's Sport compound and BAM, there you go!
I was unable to find any vendor that listed these pads for the LX/ LC or the rotors with cryo treatment. Armed with the manufacturers part numbers I ordered them from a StopTech distributor and 3 weeks later they showed up. After installing all of it this morning. Which was seriously the easiest vehicle I have ever done a brake job on. I followed the bedding procedure and BAM the brakes are awesome! I am so happy with the outcome. They are quiet and have great bite and stopping power and modulation. I am sure they will continue to improve as the continue to bed. I am expecting greater brake dust from these semi-metallic pads but honestly I don’t care. I’m just glad to be stopping better.

Here are the parts:
Pads: StopTech Street Sport (TRD OEM)
Front 309.13030
Rear 309.13040
Rotors: Centric Cryo Treated
Front: 120.44162CRY
Rear: 120.44157CRY
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Hey I just wanted to thank you for this awesome information. Been lurking around here looking for new brake and rotor recommendations. My 2014 Landcruiser has almost 100k miles now and my only 2 complaints have been the stock brakes and how much gas this truck guzzles ;) Love the new setup so far!
 
It's been only 2 months with the StopTech setup, 1800 miles. Brakes are shuddering and took it to my mechanic, who said the front rotors are warped and defective. I reached out to the vendor and StopTech. Vendor said that StopTech needs to determine whether it's a defect. Spoke to a StopTech technician who said that it was installer error. My installer says it's manufacturer error. StopTech demands a lateral runoff measurement to determine. Mechanic says this is ridiculous and has never happened before (he's a local mechanic that has lifer customers). Would love some advice. I think I'm going to have to purchase the same setup for the front. My mechanic at least said he'd install them for free but to never order parts online in the future when I come to him.
 
Brakes shuddering like that is usually due to overheated rotors warping. Could happen due to poor quality rotors, heavy braking constantly, thin rotors... Could also happen if your brake proportioning valve is not working correctly and all pressure is going to the front brakes and little or none to the rear brakes.

I havent tried Stoptech before, but I installed the PowerStop Z36 set on my LX in January and I tow our 29ft boat often (very heavy). The brakes have been great so far, no rust, no fading, no shudder.

 
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chadd7 said:
It's been only 2 months with the StopTech setup, 1800 miles. Brakes are shuddering and took it to my mechanic, who said the front rotors are warped and defective. I reached out to the vendor and StopTech. Vendor said that StopTech needs to determine whether it's a defect. Spoke to a StopTech technician who said that it was installer error. My installer says it's manufacturer error. StopTech demands a lateral runoff measurement to determine. Mechanic says this is ridiculous and has never happened before (he's a local mechanic that has lifer customers). Would love some advice. I think I'm going to have to purchase the same setup for the front. My mechanic at least said he'd install them for free but to never order parts online in the future when I come to him.
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That sucks, sorry to hear that. And the mechanic things it is actual rotor warp and not just pad friction material transferred to the rotor?
 
Some rotors have hot spots.. (defective) and warp right away. If you turn them the problem will happen again.
 
Fisher23 said:
Some rotors have hot spots.. (defective) and warp right away. If you turn them the problem will happen again.
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My mechanic said exactly this. He said that he would not try to resurface 2 month old rotors that was put on a family car.
 
Honestly, I poured money into my last rig a GX470 which was notoriously under powered for brakes. I went with the cryo stop tech rotors and ceramic pads and had warp within 2 months. No help from the manufacturer. Therefore, I switched over to cheap eBay kits hoping I'll get 12 months or if it. Sorry to hear your experience was similar to mine after investing in "high quality parts."
 
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What do you folks think I should do assuming the vendor doesn't send me a replacement set? Do I go with the same? The rear Cryo rotors are fine. Should I stick with the same setup in the front? Should I go with the non-Cryo version of the Centric/Stoptech rotors in the front with the same kevlar pads? Please advise.
 
Myself I would go with the same, maybe even from the same place... then I would mail them back the old set and if they don't refund I would do a charge back on the credit card or PayPal if you paid with them.
 
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