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Today - Salt Lake to Sac - 638 miles

Here are photos of interest. (the tech from this last week comes next).

I left early and in the rearview could see the sun rise over the great Salt Lake. I should have stopped for a image then but didn't to make time in the coolness of it all. Did get some...
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You see Casino's before you see welcome to NV..
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Saw this Gem as I was pulling out of gas station in middle of NV (town about 600 people. We talked about frame off, Agualu etc. All good.)

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Next image...
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2 be cont. on next post
 
Somewhere around the 47th “Grass Valley Next 62 Exits” sign I realized Ian (@RevISK) was supposed to be in the passenger seat giving unsolicited local history lessons and pointing out where he “totally used to know a guy.”

Apparently he chose “responsibility” over bad gas station burritos (hatch chile and sausage today’s delight) and 11 straight hours of Land Cruiser noises.

Disappointing.

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made it back. Work starts tomorrow morning. Boo.
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Somewhere around the 47th “Grass Valley Next 62 Exits” sign I realized Ian (@RevISK) was supposed to be in the passenger seat giving unsolicited local history lessons and pointing out where he “totally used to know a guy.”

Apparently he chose “responsibility” over bad gas station burritos (hatch chile and sausage today’s delight) and 11 straight hours of Land Cruiser noises.

Disappointing.

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made it back. Work starts tomorrow morning. Boo.
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Strong work son…

Funny story about that Grass Valley/colfax exit, legend has it that…
 
“More than meets the eye…” turned out to be accurate. Got the side members and roof back down on Yellr. “Back down” makes it sound a lot smoother than it actually was. It was a tight fit. Ended up using a trim tool to persuade some of the rubber that was peeking out back into place, but even then things still weren’t settling quite right. So… back apart it came.

Round two is when we noticed the passenger-side B pillar wasn’t sitting all the way down—probably an 8–10mm gap. Driver side basically dropped into place. Passenger side absolutely did not.

Turns out the flange around the bottom of the side member had been pretty heavily “customized” over the years. Previous owner apparently subscribed to the philosophy of “tight is good, tighter is better,” and had tweaked the metal enough that it wasn’t sitting straight or flush anymore.

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So off came the sides and roof again.

Started with C-clamps and some strips of metal, slowly persuading things back into shape.
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Then @solomrus fabricated a little tool specifically for straightening each of the bolt holes individually. Worked so much better and faster..
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Honestly worked pretty slick.
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After straightening everything out, the sides and roof went together way better - no trim tool needed and roof met the windshield frame etc better. Still ended up with a small gap at the passenger-side B pillar, though. So for now, added a second gasket, tightened things down, and called it good enough for this chapter. Revisit later. At some point the priority shifted from “make it perfect” to “get Baker on the road.”

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Also… little product observation while we’re here. At one point I had swapped a bunch of hardware over to stainless hardware from one of the common suppliers on the forum. Some folks may love that setup—and if that’s your jam, awesome. Just wasn’t for me. I had issues when the diff kit they sold, and this was just more evidence it isn't for me. What I found was the stainless hardware seemed noticeably softer than the OEM Toyota bolts (tensile strength). I had a few start stretching/deforming in ways I didn’t love, especially compared to the factory hardware.

So… I’ve officially gone back to Team Toyota bolts.

The stainless looked nice. The OEM stuff just feels happier doing OEM bolt things.
 
One more post before I have to get ready for work. Next up in the “while you’re in there…” series: the oil leak that decided to stop being polite.

I changed the oil at end of the day, went home, came back the next day and—boom—actual puddle under Yellr. Now, to be fair, I’d had a little drip-drip situation before. Enough to annoy me, never enough to trigger full investigative journalism. But this definitely changed the math. Didn't take a picture of the puddle, use your imagination - but is my reference to the picture under Yellr in Kearney. That was where my go/no-go decision was with shakedown from Omaha.

So out came the new oil, and after a little detective work it became pretty obvious what was going on. There’s a nice little dimple in the oil pan right where the drain plug seats. See finger in picture below.
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This was a big deal - I really didn't want to risk ruining an engine etc. driving out to CA. This was a total sideways turn.

Quick call/message to @orangefj45 at Valley Hybrids to see what options existed. And I’ll say this—his and his staff responsiveness was fantastic. Calls, texts, emails… quick answers the whole way through. Really appreciated that.

Turns out they could get a pan from Toyota, but suggested I also checked locally here in Nebraska. Thanked them and called. Missed the day’s order cutoff, but Toyota could still get one in about two days. Get this, Valley called me after two days to see if I got the new pan and if not then could get me something. Now that I made to Sacramento, damn sure I will make it to Stockton...
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Oddly enough, I already had spare oil pan gaskets sitting around. Apparently Past Baker occasionally makes good decisions.

So off came the pan.
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Ian (@RevISK) sent me link to Georg's writeup for oil pan gasket - I did it before when I build the engine, but had the luxury of the engine on the stand and could turn it upside down....

F, 2F, 3F and 3FE rear main seal, oil pan gasket and clutch installation instructions - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/f-2f-3f-and-3fe-rear-main-seal-oil-pan-gasket-and-clutch-installation-instructions.1338727/


Cleaned everything up, shiny enough to make me feel like I knew what I was doing, and got the new pan/gasket installed. The cleaning was the longest part. Used Toyota FPIG like I did building the engine.
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Then came the famous phrase: “Well… while you’re in there…”

I’d also had a leak where the oil filter bracket mounts to the block for the longest time. I already had the gaskets for it, but could not find my motivation pills to tackle that project. Honestly, that leak had probably been more of an issue than the oil pan for a while anyway.

So off that came too. Cleaned it all up, new gaskets in, everything buttoned back together. That part took forever and included a couple self-inflicted learning opportunities, but overall it went pretty well.
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Tech tip for anyone doing this in the future:
There are four bolts on that oil filter bracket assembly. The two toward the rear are longer than the two toward the front. They look really close in size… close enough to make bad decisions.

I didn’t have a good profile view while reinstalling everything and accidentally swapped two of them. The bolts wouldn’t fully seat, but from my angle it wasn’t obvious - the bolt stopped/tight. OK, that is a lie. I had the ability to look from the side and check, but didn't think to do that. @solomrus did though and immediately noticed one bolt sitting proud. That’s when the light bulb came on and Russ did Russ things and corrected my efforts.

So if you tackle this job someday—pay attention to bolt length even if they look basically identical.

Anyway… no more puddles - and after a few hundred miles down I-80 still dry.. feels like progress even today.
 
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The saga of “fixing things I didn’t plan on fixing” continues… this time starring the fenders. As eluded to in a previous post, I ended up with an aftermarket passenger fender and apron because the spare OEM one I had had been chopped and I didn't realize it. Hence the aftermarket fender was easy to locate and get to Omaha while in CA.

When I got to Omaha, it really didn't look good (aftermarket fender etc). @solomrus and I spent a good amount of time trying to fit, tweak, adjust, loosen, tighten, persuade, and generally negotiate with that setup. No matter what we did, it just never wanted to sit right.
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The best way I can describe it was the front end had an underbite. The hood and front bib relationship was… complicated. Passenger side especially. You could see a widening gap along the radiator and bib. (didn't take a picture)

We loosened hood hinges, shifted things around, tried changing alignment points, and chased gaps all over the place. At one point the passenger side “underbite” was probably around an inch or inch and a half. By next year’s retelling it’ll probably become three inches and require Coast Guard navigation lights.

Best we could tell, the aftermarket fender itself had a twist in it. It wouldn’t pull in cleanly and fought us the whole way. We actually had to extend the holes where it bolts to the frame. And despite all that effort… nothing ever really lined up correctly.

Then we started swapping OEM parts back in. Rus had an OEM apron. I had the previously “customized” OEM fender. Suddenly late Friday things actually started fitting more like Toyota intended.

Funny how that works.

The gaps looked right, the front end stopped trying to impersonate a bulldog, and the overall alignment finally made sense.

That said… I also wanted to get back on the road at some point this decade.

So aftermarket no more - I just read on @sadovnik thread his fender/light saga. DM inbound - be aware -

Lets all be honest, especially me. Yellr’s kind of a mutt anyway - the side member flanges have blue under the black spray from a PO. At this point the truck’s basically a rolling collection of stories and decisions.

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(Did I mention Russ's apron is a few shades of blue and for a way earliers 40?) - I saw ad here in CA recently for OEM apron. Need to see if they have yellow (Or leave it as part of the story).

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The saga of “fixing things I didn’t plan on fixing” continues… this time starring the fenders. As eluded to in a previous post, I ended up with an aftermarket passenger fender and apron because the spare OEM one I had had been chopped and I didn't realize it. Hence the aftermarket fender was easy to locate and get to Omaha while in CA.

When I got to Omaha, it really didn't look good (aftermarket fender etc). @solomrus and I spent a good amount of time trying to fit, tweak, adjust, loosen, tighten, persuade, and generally negotiate with that setup. No matter what we did, it just never wanted to sit right.
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The best way I can describe it was the front end had an underbite. The hood and front bib relationship was… complicated. Passenger side especially. You could see a widening gap along the radiator and bib. (didn't take a picture)

We loosened hood hinges, shifted things around, tried changing alignment points, and chased gaps all over the place. At one point the passenger side “underbite” was probably around an inch or inch and a half. By next year’s retelling it’ll probably become three inches and require Coast Guard navigation lights.

Best we could tell, the aftermarket fender itself had a twist in it. It wouldn’t pull in cleanly and fought us the whole way. We actually had to extend the holes where it bolts to the frame. And despite all that effort… nothing ever really lined up correctly.

Then we started swapping OEM parts back in. Rus had an OEM apron. I had the previously “customized” OEM fender. Suddenly late Friday things actually started fitting more like Toyota intended.

Funny how that works.

The gaps looked right, the front end stopped trying to impersonate a bulldog, and the overall alignment finally made sense.

That said… I also wanted to get back on the road at some point this decade.

So aftermarket no more - I just read on @sadovnik thread his fender/light saga. DM inbound - be aware -

Lets all be honest, especially me. Yellr’s kind of a mutt anyway - the side member flanges have blue under the black spray from a PO. At this point the truck’s basically a rolling collection of stories and decisions.

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(Did I mention Russ's apron is a few shades of blue and for a way earliers 40?) - I saw ad here in CA recently for OEM apron. Need to see if they have yellow (Or leave it as part of the story).

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You know mutts are the best!
Way better than purebreds.
 
So after the last few days of fixing things I didn’t plan on fixing, we finally started getting into some of the stuff I actually wanted to do.

First up: the shifter. I love the Tuffy console, but in 2nd and 4th gear the shifter rode really close to it. Like “can’t even slide a finger between them” close. Technically functional… but annoying every single time I drove it.

So out came the shifter, floor mat, boots, etc.
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& then the shifter got introduced to the Farm Grade CAD system.

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A little persuading, a little angle adjustment, and wow… huge improvement. Now I can practically slide my whole arm between the shifter and the console. One of those small changes that immediately made the truck nicer to drive.

While we were in there, discovered the T-case shifter was missing a bushing, which explained the mystery rattle soundtrack I’d apparently been listening to. Installed the missing bits and—shocking development—the rattle disappeared.

Turns out missing parts sometimes cause noises. Who knew.
 
The saga of “fixing things I didn’t plan on fixing” continues… this time starring the fenders. As eluded to in a previous post, I ended up with an aftermarket passenger fender and apron because the spare OEM one I had had been chopped and I didn't realize it. Hence the aftermarket fender was easy to locate and get to Omaha while in CA.

When I got to Omaha, it really didn't look good (aftermarket fender etc). @solomrus and I spent a good amount of time trying to fit, tweak, adjust, loosen, tighten, persuade, and generally negotiate with that setup. No matter what we did, it just never wanted to sit right.
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The best way I can describe it was the front end had an underbite. The hood and front bib relationship was… complicated. Passenger side especially. You could see a widening gap along the radiator and bib. (didn't take a picture)

We loosened hood hinges, shifted things around, tried changing alignment points, and chased gaps all over the place. At one point the passenger side “underbite” was probably around an inch or inch and a half. By next year’s retelling it’ll probably become three inches and require Coast Guard navigation lights.

Best we could tell, the aftermarket fender itself had a twist in it. It wouldn’t pull in cleanly and fought us the whole way. We actually had to extend the holes where it bolts to the frame. And despite all that effort… nothing ever really lined up correctly.

Then we started swapping OEM parts back in. Rus had an OEM apron. I had the previously “customized” OEM fender. Suddenly late Friday things actually started fitting more like Toyota intended.

Funny how that works.

The gaps looked right, the front end stopped trying to impersonate a bulldog, and the overall alignment finally made sense.

That said… I also wanted to get back on the road at some point this decade.

So aftermarket no more - I just read on @sadovnik thread his fender/light saga. DM inbound - be aware -

Lets all be honest, especially me. Yellr’s kind of a mutt anyway - the side member flanges have blue under the black spray from a PO. At this point the truck’s basically a rolling collection of stories and decisions.

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(Did I mention Russ's apron is a few shades of blue and for a way earliers 40?) - I saw ad here in CA recently for OEM apron. Need to see if they have yellow (Or leave it as part of the story).

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I doubt this will make you feel much better, but fitting the OEM fender was an absolute biatch too. I did it by myself and the whole time I was bitching and moaning while questioning my life choices. At least now I know why the guys at the paint shop hate my 40. :D
 
Originally I bought a pr of aftermarket fenders from a member on here knowing they didn't fit well and that's why he was selling them cheap. I thought I could make them work. I bolted them on and realized I would have to do major surgery on them. I ended up buying a pr of OEM's from Patrick in Germany and they fit great with no alterations.
 
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I too have that transfer case shifter rattle! I was putting it off because I didn't know if it could be solved from up above... Can you share more details on what bushing was missing? Mine makes a terribly annoying rattle that if I just push on it slightly it goes away.
 
pull the xfer case shifter boot off and look down the hole. follow the shaft down to the actuator rod. wriggle the shifter. you will see where the play is. in bryan's case, there was just a nut and a lock washer holding the shift lever on the actuator rod. lots of slop in that joint. i merely drilled out a washer to step over the shoulder and hold the pivot point with some preload. if you move things around you can get some grease on the actuator shaft to help out with movement. tighten down the retaining nut to the tension you want, and you should be good to go.

yet another one of those russ things that russ does and never remembers to take photos.

--r
 
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@solomrus in my day those Catholic school nuns would have you go back and do it all over again and this time with full details and photos…they even had a name for it…..PENANCE! it showed repentance for sin…😂
 
pull the xfer case shifter boot off and look down the hole. follow the shaft down to the actuator rod. wriggle the shifter. you will see where the play is. in bryan's case, there was just a nut and a lock washer holding the shift lever on the actuator rod. lots of slop in that joint. i merely drilled out a washer to step over the shoulder and hold the pivot point with some preload. if you move things around you can get some grease on the actuator shaft to help out with movement. tighten down the retaining nut to the tension you want, and you should be good to go.

yet another one of those russ things that russ does and never remembers to take photos.

--r

Good tech here.

Mine has this same noise. However after 60 mph wind, tires, and exhaust drown it out.
 
@knuckle47 the public school teachers were motivated by poverty and despair. that, and stack some pretty brutal un diagnosed ADHD on the pile. i'm lucky to read, write, and do basic arithmetic. 8^)

penance? we don't need no stinking penance! plenty of gen x shame there already.

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Hey Russ, for us, it was intimidation…you can only imagine a 5 yr old standing in front of a tall penguin who’s hiding a ruler under those baggy sleeves. Her face is tightly wrapped with that white thing that won’t allow her to crack a smile for the last 40 years. Then school starts… first thing..praying …after 9 years it is easy to rebel. ADHD back in the ‘60’s was unheard of…we got smacked the hardest and the most. They could hit you back then…and did.our first grade nun told the entire class that she had a spanking machine under her desk and then she would kick the leg of the desk with her foot claiming that she had just turned the machine on and everybody better be on their best behavior. 😳

One time during a fire drill a kid bumped his head on one of those chrome fire extinguishers. She took the giant metal cross and held it to his head… holy cow did we laugh…that was all it took. We thought she was trying to heal the bruise with the cross ….but little did we know it was the only cold object around at the time. We spent the entire week learning additional prayers. Another time we used to take the ink tube out of that clear, .19 bic pen and then rolled paper scraps them into , spitballs and use it as a shooter. That weekend, we had to write 500 times “I will not shoot spit balls “ and glue 500 spit balls onto a piece of paper.

Days like that were fun. I can’t say more about it ha ha ha. No wonder when I got to public high school it was a party. I will say this Catholic school is where I learned two of the traits of the mafia and the bikers…. Intimidation.!

Being Italian, I could’ve gone either way, but I decided the biker crowd was way more fun 😇 frankly I’m amazed. I went through that out and lasted this long. I’m betting there are storieswe can tell that would shock a lot of people today
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Our nuns were quite old….This nun is young and pretty… might have made it more tolerable.I’ve never seen one of these 😂
 
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