Builds My '78 FJ40 "44" (3 Viewers)

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I finished it... cut some 3/4x3/4 angle iron and welded it, flat side up, to give a flat place to set the tote. The tote contains only fluids, it's not all that heavy, but, it's nice to get the stink in front of 44... Rather than inside.

I know, I could have carried it in top, but, for now, I'm not using the rack much... Maybe when my back is good again.

I cut down a couple of old ratchet straps and it's good to go...


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It might affect air flow into the radiator that far out in front . If a car were to suddenly stop , well - someone is going to get painted with the contents of the tote...lol .

I'm convinced that thing is north of 5,500lbs+ . Not even trying to give you a hard time - if I'm planning a remote trip I pack that way myself . We both need a 45 Troopy...
Sarge
 
It might affect air flow into the radiator that far out in front . If a car were to suddenly stop , well - someone is going to get painted with the contents of the tote...lol .

I'm convinced that thing is north of 5,500lbs+ . Not even trying to give you a hard time - if I'm planning a remote trip I pack that way myself . We both need a 45 Troopy...
Sarge

I think you're high... maybe your "I always add 500 lbs..." rule...

I've actually pared down my tools, but will leave the estimate at 50 lbs, and eliminated that drawer (returning to shallow plastic totes), it wasn't worth the weight.

I do think I'm near the GVWR (4885 lbs), but could be a bit over.

It drives and handles very well, the rear air bags help keep it level and there is no drift at all.

The one thing I'm changing is my 22 gal aux tank... (22*6.3=)138.6lbs is simply too heavy behind the axle, when I carry spares and tools back there as well. It's fine most of the time, but I've had a couple of instances where really sharp inclines almost bogged her down. I've implemented a 15 gal max rule... that eliminates 44.1 lbs.

I don't follow close enough to 'spill my fluids'... hell, I can't catch the car in front of me... but, it's kinda like that highway department concept where they place plastic barrels of water... for use as a buffer, to reduce hazards... I use gear oil, motor oil, brake fluid, ATF and distilled water... an emergency cocktail...

A troopy would be nice, but I have no place to store it... I already pay for storage for my Tundra.

Eric (@FJ4043) suggested an FJ43, a while back... but, I think he thought 44 was too short to sleep in... at 5'6", I could sleep in a Mini Cooper... well, not any more...

But, I'll get her weighed when I find a place. Edit: But, as long as she drives well and safe, I will take what I take, 'cause it's stuff I need in the Big Empty. I air down off road and up for highway and seldom exceed 55 mph... and I've had a great life!!
 
funny, of all the vehicles I've had, S10 blazers, 2 door, were the most comfortable to sleep in.... they were just the right length with the seat folded down for me to sleep (I'm 6-1), even had room for a companion. I keep telling myself that if I ever get serious about overlanding, I'll put my 300 tdi in an S10 blazer on dana 30 axles... why it's funny is I've had about every type of recreational vehicle known to man, campers to 5th wheels, to class A motorhomes...
 
Sleeping in a 60 beats sleepin in a 40... ;)
 
funny, of all the vehicles I've had, S10 blazers, 2 door, were the most comfortable to sleep in.... they were just the right length with the seat folded down for me to sleep (I'm 6-1), even had room for a companion. I keep telling myself that if I ever get serious about overlanding, I'll put my 300 tdi in an S10 blazer on dana 30 axles... why it's funny is I've had about every type of recreational vehicle known to man, campers to 5th wheels, to class A motorhomes...


I have room for two companions in my 40... they keep me very warm!!
 
Perhaps... unless you're sleeping in your 60... in your driveway...

But then you have to drive the 60 - I'd rather drive a 40. :cool:

Dilemmas.
Should I drive the forty today, or the sixty.... :hmm: depending on the destination...
 
Posting this response to @Weber Sarge's comment here - to document it:


Sarge,

Its interesting that you bring this up... I was just looking at this last night and plan to find a scale on my next trip... hopefully, in a rural town where it won't have a long line of 18 wheelers...

I haven't yet had it on a scale because I weigh everything (of substance: things like the snorkel are plastic and are very light) I put on/in 44... this is what I estimate (Note: 4885 lbs GVWR)

Curb Weight is estimated at 4015
(Note: 3500 (estimated stock curb weight)
+140 (roof rack)
+90 (aux tank and skid plate)
+85 (winch)
+200 (huge front bumper - this is estimated... I haven't had it off to weight it.)
So, 4885 (GVWR) - 4015 (adjusted curb weight) = 870 lbs available for "cargo" and passengers.

54 lbs of tools,
40 lbs of spares, etc.
40 lbs Trasheroo and firewood
140 lbs of extra fuel (with aux tank full (22gal*6.33/gal))
12 lbs tent
4 lbs cot
2 lbs chair
12 lbs the plywood and my bed
16 lbs the drawers weigh
20 lbs of clothes and jackets
25 lbs of food, stove, propane bottles, etc.
56 lbs potable water cube (7gal*8lbs/gal)
22 lbs drinking water
60 lbs misc.
503 lbs Total "cargo"

176 lbs Danny and losing as fast as I can!!
78 lbs Gunner
75 lbs Chester
328 lbs Total passengers

503 Cargo
328 Passengers
831 lbs Total Cargo and Passengers
So, my estimated 831 lbs comes in under the 870 lbs available for cargo and passengers.

Estimated total weight = 4846 (4015 + 831) - But, with the bulk of the weight on the rear of 44, I am concerned that 44 is probably very close to the limit.

I added air bags to the rear to assist the springs and allow me to adjust the rear "lift" when I have extra weight on the back --- like when the aux tank is full or the cargo carrier (weighs < 20 lbs, but when mounted in the rear receiver, is actually heavier that far back) is on the back hitch receiver. I can also carry the cargo basket on the front receiver when the aux tank is full - just cover the tail lights on the carrier.

So, this is where I think 44 "stands"... I'll post how she "squats" after I have her weighed.

Ok @Weber Sarge ... here's what I learned about 44 today...

Wind out of the north at 40mph (gusting later today to 60 mph), 44 is NOT aerodynamic and can't be very heavy... I swear I felt her leave the pavement a couple of times!! Especially when the wind hit her broadside.

Anyway, I took Mark's (@65swb45) suggestion and tried the local recycling center... no weight ticket... the operator didn't want to get fired... (go figure!!) but, I parked on the scale and got out and gave him a sneaky $20 shake of the hand... 44 is 'under 5200 lbs'... their scales round to the nearest hundred. This is with the main tank full and the aux tank at about 18 gallons... and daBoise on-board... it was without my 170 lbs... so 5370 or so with me and everything I carry on-board. :):confused:

In your defense, I did pare my tools down and I also removed that big drawer and returned to plastic totes... so, it was closer to your amended 5500 lbs guesstimate... but never the "three tons" you originally guesstimated. :rolleyes:

I still plan to try to locate a set of rural scales, when I go on a real road trip, and see what they say.

Oh, I forgot, this also includes my AR and 10 loaded 30-round mags, my .44 mag and 18 rounds of .44 mag 240gr bear loads, my .40 M&P Compact and 30 rounds and my .40 Shield and 21 rounds and six 50 round boxes of .40 (180gr) ammo.

I don't usually carry so many different guns and so much ammo, but I'm gonna do some target shooting when Chester and I go out tomorrow or Sunday (depending on when the wind abates), for a few nights.

I have to be home for two Dr appts (Sports Med Dr and Retina Specialist) on Thursday, but I'm hoping to go 40+ miles north, up Alamo Road, in the DNWR... about a 2.5-3 hour drive (it's rough)... then 9 miles southeast on Cabin Springs "road" (probably at least a 1.5 hrs)... really not much more than an overgrown two-track that's a bit hard to see in places. It slowly climbs to 5500-6000' and there are mountains above 7k' to hike.

This is a very remote area, that very seldom sees people, so I have to see just how bad the road really is... it's just gonna be Chester and me and we don't really want to hike 50 miles to get out of there. But, the 9 mile Cabin Springs "road' will be pretty much downhill most of the way back to Alamo Road, so a hike out to Alamo would be fairly easy... but, no guarantee that anyone would come along... so, SPOT will be tracking us!!

Also, Alamo Road has been cut around the dry lake. So, I can now continue north another 30+ miles to US93, at the Pahranagat Wildelife Refuge (Alamo, NV) and gas up to return home. That's exciting!! New scenery... including the Carola Sand Dunes!! ... and a dune hike!!:steer:
 

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