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[blu 60]

Vehicle description
1985 FJ60 2F, H55F tranny
OME heavy front, medium rear suspension, extended rear shackles
Body armor: SafariGard front bumper, SleeSliders, Luke Porter Rear bumper with tire carrier, Hi-Lift carrier and ladder
Dual Batteries in factory locations
Rear Cargo drawers, etc.

I’m going to 4.56 gears and lockers and am planning to go from 31” x 10.50’s on stock wheels to a 33” tall tire on 16” x 8” wheels. Leaning towards a Goodyear MTR because of city and off road use.

My questions are who has put either a 285 75 R 16 (33 x 11.2) or a 305 70 R 16 (33 x 12.2) tire on this size rim on an FJ60 with an OME suspension, and what were your results (rub, drivability, turning radius, etc.), and what wheel and offset did you use? And, has anyone put a 34” tire on a similar rig without major rub?

Thanks for any help, I know similar questions come up, but this is a large investment and I want to be sure I do it right the first time.

If anyone in Austin or Houston has 16 x 8 wheels for sale lemme know.

Herman

 

[Doc]

Also check out the Firesonte Destination MT tires. I have those on both of my cruisers in the 285/75-16 size.

On a stock suspension 60 I have no rub with mild wheeling. Yes, with 33's. I'll be doing an OME lift this spring and expect the rubbing under articulation to dissapear then too.

 

[peepers]

I’m going to 4.56 gears and lockers and am planning to go from 31” x 10.50’s on stock wheels to a 33” tall tire on 16” x 8” wheels. Leaning towards a Goodyear MTR because of city and off road use.

this will most likely be fine. you prolly wont get rubbing. i have a friend with your OME setup, less weight than you and gets only minor rubbing with 33x12.5s....

My questions are who has put either a 285 75 R 16 (33 x 11.2) or a 305 70 R 16 (33 x 12.2) tire on this size rim on an FJ60 with an OME suspension, and what were your results (rub, drivability, turning radius, etc.), and what wheel and offset did you use? And, has anyone put a 34” tire on a similar rig without major rub?

i think you will rub with the 34ish tire. try a body lift?

i have been asking the same questions for some time now. this is my experience:

jason, i am sure he will chime is, is going to put on the M/Ts you think of - or is it 315 70 16s... i forget. either way, the one that is 34 or 35 measures to 34.6". he also has 1" body list and a wider stance than you, an 80 rear axle and minitruck or 4runner front hubs.

i was going to try to go with 35x12.5s being sprung under but it is not worth the trouble. i am installing a 1" body lift this weekend and then getting some 34x12.5s on 15x8 rims to stick under there. if they rub, then i am going to get some longer shackles til they fit, and if they still rub i will do a shackle reversal, but i should be okay before that.

i will post the body lift install later... then keep yo informed with the 34s...

 

[Doc]

34's will fit depending on the width, 34x9.5 swampers will fit with all kinds of room.

 

[fogblanket]

I am running 285 r16 bfg mt's on 16x8 wheels with 3.5" of bs with heavy OME front and rear. no rubbing issues but close. most rubbing issues come from the tire width not necsisarily the height.

drives nice. i tink the only 34" that would work for you is the Ltb in that it is a 10.5 width. unless you went with a 1" body lift or shackel lift or some other way to squeeze and extra inch of lift.

HTH Jason

 

[fogblanket]

yeah I am going with the goodyear 315r16 mtr's which meassure in at 34.6" and as Peter said have the same suspesion as you (except the heavies int he rear which isn't a factor anyway) plus a 1" body lift. I ordered my first tire and should get it in a week or so and will check it out just to make sure.
they hopefully won't rub if they do I might try some spacers to get hte wheels out a bit more but I am really not expecting them too.
you wil definately be fine with 285'3 and its a nice look
Jason

 

[peepers]

yes, the 34x10.4 swamper will fit with minimal rub and no harm done. hoever, this guy mentioned he wants the MT/R...

 

[blu 60]

Thanks for the info, I appreciate all the help, maybe skinny 34" would be a good option, who makes tires this size other than TSL?

herman

 

[peepers]

Thanks for the info, I appreciate all the help, maybe skinny 34" would be a good option, who makes tires this size other than TSL?

herman

no one. well, not true... SIMEX does. but they are all bias ply and not road friendly.

 

[blu 60]

I guess there is a BFG MT in a 255 85 r 16 33.8" tall, hmmm

 

[peepers]

dont BFGs run notoriously small? also, dont get that tire if you drive in the snow... go with the MT/R... i think you will be very happy with that tire.

 

[sl33py]

reviving an old thread...

anyone have 315/75-16's on their 60? I'm looking at getting OME lift and trying to figure if this will fit.

looks like width might be the biggest issue?

may just go 285/75 if 315 won't fit.

thanks!

rob

 

[Mike S]

Biggest problem is that at some point, tires and wheels are too big and heavy for the axles in a stock USA 60. Unless you are building a serious crawler, I would go 4.11 wiith 33 s and a FF rear axle. This will give you close to stock running on the highway, and not too much weight in the wheels/tires.

Just a thot

 

[sl33py]

thanks Mike. that's what i have seen pretty consistently. I think that's what i will stick with.

 

[FJKai]

Biggest problem is that at some point, tires and wheels are too big and heavy for the axles in a stock USA 60. Unless you are building a serious crawler, I would go 4.11 wiith 33 s and a FF rear axle. This will give you close to stock running on the highway, and not too much weight in the wheels/tires.

Just a thot

I agree with mike about the 4.11's and 33's, perfect match, feels like the stock gearing. I can still hit the same freeway speed as when I had smaller tires and original gearing. I would also like to chime in my .02 cents, I'm running approx. a 3.5" - 4" dakar heavy all around lift. Used longer shackles to get this height. I have a set of 33"X9.5" AT's and a set of 33"X12.5" MT's and I have found that even with the lift I still get minor rubbing up front with the 12.5"s. Mainly due to the width of the tires hitting the mud flaps. No biggie though, only rubs in hard flexing situations.

 

[sl33py]

I agree with mike about the 4.11's and 33's, perfect match, feels like the stock gearing. I can still hit the same freeway speed as when I had smaller tires and original gearing. I would also like to chime in my .02 cents, I'm running approx. a 3.5" - 4" dakar heavy all around lift. Used longer shackles to get this height. I have a set of 33"X9.5" AT's and a set of 33"X12.5" MT's and I have found that even with the lift I still get minor rubbing up front with the 12.5"s. Mainly due to the width of the tires hitting the mud flaps. No biggie though, only rubs in hard flexing situations.

that's great to know FJKai. I am looking at a OME medium fr medium/heavy rr - what length shackles do you have?

thnx!

rob

 

[cody c]

hows bout running 33's or even 35's with a little body lift and manufacturing new bump stops to prevent rub, then gears later and maybe an aussie loka when ya got a couple more bucks. when you put bigger tires on you'll always look at it and think to yourself: i probally could have gone a little bigger.

 

[FJKai]

that's great to know FJKai. I am looking at a OME medium fr medium/heavy rr - what length shackles do you have?

thnx!

rob

Rob, you are on the right track going with OME. The shackles I went with were approx. 1.5" longer than the shackles that came with a Dakar Heavy lift. So, we figured it to come out to about a 3" to 4" lift overall. I think the Dakar lift comes with 2.5" shackles. I've seen other OME 2.5" lifts and although the 33" tires worked fine with them, I wanted a little more wiggle room and didn't want the "slightly stuffed in the wheel well" look that I felt it looked like, even though they work no problem. I wanted just a bit more room than what I saw those lifts give, hence the longer shackles. I personally would go with heavy's all around. The ride I have is awesome and very smooth over wash boards, ruts, etc. Plus I can load up the rig and still have pretty much the same ride and height. The lift you're looking at will accomodate 33's no problem. Like I said earlier, I only get rub on the inside of the front mud flaps at max. articulation (no biggie really) and this is only because I went with a wider 12.5" MT. The 9.5" were never an issue (which is what I'm running in this pic, also, note the longer front shackle). Either way you go, if it's OME you won't be disapointed.

 

[FJKai]

hows bout running 33's or even 35's with a little body lift and manufacturing new bump stops to prevent rub, then gears later and maybe an aussie loka when ya got a couple more bucks. when you put bigger tires on you'll always look at it and think to yourself: i probally could have gone a little bigger.

I've have since thought about running a bit bigger tires myself. 34's, 35's, not sure, but I do know that I would need to do some type of body lift to make them fit cleanly. This is a situation where the 12.5" MT's will rub on the inside of the front mud flaps. But, like I said before, not a big deal really, and hey, they are still on and attached just fine as of today.

 

[sl33py]

hmm...
so medium fr md/hvy rr or heavy all the way around?

I just don't want a kidney killer. Stock LC now - hopefully a bullbar/winch eventually. I don't carry a lot in the back, but occasional surf trip 4 guys, all big guys like myself...

FJKai - you have a roof rack and carry a lot of gear? how long did it take to smooth out? bouncy for how long?

thanks bro!

rob

EDIT - Nice Rig!!