Michelin LTX, Pilot Sport 4 SUV for quality ride and braking capabilities. (1 Viewer)

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Hi all. Picked up a 2017 LX570 last week (pics and info to follow) unfortunately/fortunately it is ULTRA low miles (I grin each time I say it, 9,300 miles)
I purchased through Carmax, but it turns out the 125 point Inspection is a bit of a joke. I took it to Lexus for a PPI and they confirmed the tires are original and thus nine years old. Trying to promptly swap out the tires before I make a 1000 mile trip next week.
I’ve always trusted Michelin‘s and so I am naturally leaning that way. This isn’t a hard-core off roader by any means, just some dirt roads to a property I own. Safety is paramount to me, so I don’t want to sacrifice braking capabilities for quietness/ride plushness, though I do truly appreciate these things on the LX.
I am just keeping the stock size for now, 275/50/r21. I’m curious if anyone could contrast the Michelin LTX and the Michelin pilot sport 4 SUV with the stock Dunlops or just in general. I am leaning towards the LTX, but I’ve heard that it sacrifices a bit in dry handling. I’m OK with the handling category not being paramount in general, because I drive the LX at a rather subdued pace, but I don’t want to sacrifice braking grip if possible. The pilot sport 4 SUV only has a 20,000 mile warranty, so I gather it’s a very soft compound.
I live in the Bay Area. Make a few trips to Tahoe in the snow each year, but that would be the only time it is on a “cold” environment.
Any help or suggestions here would be appreciated. I normally spend my time on a tire purchase such as this, but I really want to swap them out before this big trip, so need to make a quick call. I would opt for another vehicle for the trip, but I’m actually having some entertainment system modifications done to the LX at the location I’m traveling to, so I want it with me.
I appreciate any input.
 
Hi all. Picked up a 2017 LX570 last week (pics and info to follow) unfortunately/fortunately it is ULTRA low miles (I grin each time I say it, 9,300 miles)
I purchased through Carmax, but it turns out the 125 point Inspection is a bit of a joke. I took it to Lexus for a PPI and they confirmed the tires are original and thus nine years old. Trying to promptly swap out the tires before I make a 1000 mile trip next week.
I’ve always trusted Michelin‘s and so I am naturally leaning that way. This isn’t a hard-core off roader by any means, just some dirt roads to a property I own. Safety is paramount to me, so I don’t want to sacrifice braking capabilities for quietness/ride plushness, though I do truly appreciate these things on the LX.
I am just keeping the stock size for now, 275/50/r21. I’m curious if anyone could contrast the Michelin LTX and the Michelin pilot sport 4 SUV with the stock Dunlops or just in general. I am leaning towards the LTX, but I’ve heard that it sacrifices a bit in dry handling. I’m OK with the handling category not being paramount in general, because I drive the LX at a rather subdued pace, but I don’t want to sacrifice braking grip if possible. The pilot sport 4 SUV only has a 20,000 mile warranty, so I gather it’s a very soft compound.
I live in the Bay Area. Make a few trips to Tahoe in the snow each year, but that would be the only time it is on a “cold” environment.
Any help or suggestions here would be appreciated. I normally spend my time on a tire purchase such as this, but I really want to swap them out before this big trip, so need to make a quick call. I would opt for another vehicle for the trip, but I’m actually having some entertainment system modifications done to the LX at the location I’m traveling to, so I want it with me.
I appreciate any input.
Personally I would never take a summer tire into snow. You are begging for an accident.

I run the Defender LTX M/S2 in the summer and a dedicated winter tire (not necessary where you are at)

There is a ton of info in this thread
 
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Nice score. The Defenders are great on my 62, bought on the basis of the thread referenced.
 
Lots of Defenders here, me to, and I drive a lot in snow in the winter. It suits my LX very nicely. I'm running 20's so not sure about 21. For my taste and use 21 is a bit too short of a sidewall.
 
The LTX is not great in snow. They came on a truck I bought in TX, I live in Northern, MN. I swapped them out immediately for Wildpeak AT4Ws
 
Hi all. Picked up a 2017 LX570 last week (pics and info to follow) unfortunately/fortunately it is ULTRA low miles (I grin each time I say it, 9,300 miles)
I purchased through Carmax, but it turns out the 125 point Inspection is a bit of a joke. I took it to Lexus for a PPI and they confirmed the tires are original and thus nine years old. Trying to promptly swap out the tires before I make a 1000 mile trip next week.
I’ve always trusted Michelin‘s and so I am naturally leaning that way. This isn’t a hard-core off roader by any means, just some dirt roads to a property I own. Safety is paramount to me, so I don’t want to sacrifice braking capabilities for quietness/ride plushness, though I do truly appreciate these things on the LX.
I am just keeping the stock size for now, 275/50/r21. I’m curious if anyone could contrast the Michelin LTX and the Michelin pilot sport 4 SUV with the stock Dunlops or just in general. I am leaning towards the LTX, but I’ve heard that it sacrifices a bit in dry handling. I’m OK with the handling category not being paramount in general, because I drive the LX at a rather subdued pace, but I don’t want to sacrifice braking grip if possible. The pilot sport 4 SUV only has a 20,000 mile warranty, so I gather it’s a very soft compound.
I live in the Bay Area. Make a few trips to Tahoe in the snow each year, but that would be the only time it is on a “cold” environment.
Any help or suggestions here would be appreciated. I normally spend my time on a tire purchase such as this, but I really want to swap them out before this big trip, so need to make a quick call. I would opt for another vehicle for the trip, but I’m actually having some entertainment system modifications done to the LX at the location I’m traveling to, so I want it with me.
I appreciate any input.
9300 miles? Hell yeah. Pics or didn't happen.
 
Michelin LTX all the way. Great in the snow for a non-snow tire, wear really well, quiet and cushy (can't say anything about the 21" size specifically). FWIW I spun out my LX on dunops a few times assuming the A/S dunlops would be passable in the snow.* They are not.

*very experience winter-time driver, so I'm comfortable testing things out and getting sideways.
 
For sure don’t get summer tires like the Pilot Sport 4 SUV anywhere near cold weather or snow. For your use case the Defender LTX MS/2 is a good choice, but I admit having no experience with low profile 50 tires.
 
Thanks for the help everyone. Looks like LTX will be the way to go for me. Does anyone have thoughts on how they do in hard braking, emergency braking?

They do have a new size LTX which is kind of an exciting option to me, 275/55/r21, comes in at 32.9”. I will confirm, but I believe the stock 21” have a 54mm offset. They are 8.5” wide. From what I have read it seems 33’s can get squeezed in there without clearance needed on the 8 inch wheels with 60mm offset, so it seems like it would work with these wheels having essentially the same centerline. I like the idea of a bit more sidewall for ride quality and for trail/dirt road use.
 
9300 miles? Hell yeah. Pics or didn't happen.
Will take some pics today! I also will start a new thread as I will be getting a few things done that I want to share my experiences on. When I am down south I am going into Beatsonic for their CarPlay module. I have never used CarPlay before, but this adds it to the LX. I don’t think the LX infotainment is as bad as people have said, but I can see that a simplified interface like with CarPlay, will probably improve some things. I will do a write up on the installation as well as some specifics on the operation. Like, I understand you can turn the rear camera on without putting the vehicle in reverse, will confirm. Beatsonic is the only system authorized by Lexus, a bit more expensive but I like that Lexus has given them the all clear. Pics to follow!
 
Michelin LTX all the way. Great in the snow for a non-snow tire, wear really well, quiet and cushy (can't say anything about the 21" size specifically). FWIW I spun out my LX on dunops a few times assuming the A/S dunlops would be passable in the snow.* They are not.

*very experience winter-time driver, so I'm comfortable testing things out and getting sideways.
Agreed.
 
If it were mine I would find some 18” wheels, takeoffs from a Land Cruiser or Tundra. If you’re going off-road you may not love 21’ wheels. No downside to extra sidewalls on these big heavy trucks. Then buy 285/65r18 Michelin Defenders which are XL rated.

Congratulations on the 200, BTW!
 
If it were mine I would find some 18” wheels, takeoffs from a Land Cruiser or Tundra. If you’re going off-road you may not love 21’ wheels. No downside to extra sidewalls on these big heavy trucks. Then buy 285/65r18 Michelin Defenders which are XL rated.

Congratulations on the 200, BTW!
Appreciate the thought, have a 1000 mile road trip on Wednesday so I am too tight on time to pull it off. Good long term plan though.
Ordered the ltx and they get installed Tuesday. Will have an alignment done as well.
I just read the thread on the head gasket erosion from the coolant based on the Car Care Nut video. This rig has under 10,000 miles, but is 8 years old, so I am going to swap out coolant over the weekend. Will try to grab some acidic test strips to get a baseline of where it was for the last few years.
Will report back after the 1,000 trip on the ltx and give some feedback. Appreciate everyone’s help!
 

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