If you have the dual LEDs position them so the plug is at the bottom. Fixed the issue for me and no aiming required.
LED Headlight Install, 2000lm each no external driver
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Walletclan
Noob Cruiser
What do you mean?
hamishpotter
SILVER Star
Anyone have the single bulb version making them work?
So, I bought three kits. One is the VLED, which was the only kit I could find with an option to choose a warmer tint than 6500K. Going to take a while to get here though, as it was a pre-order.
These are the other two kits I got:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171454710056 (has external driver, kit has arrived already)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271564606624 (slightly curious to whether this is the same as the above, but it should have an internal driver).
I anxiously mounted the first bulb this weekend and took a pic to compare the original H4 with the LED. My first impression is mixed. I haven't tried it on the road, but from the pic it looks a bit like xenon bulbs in a non-lens headlamp == not too good.
I used my phone to measure the lux value in a distance of one meter in front of the headlamps, and the result was surprising and a bit disappointing. I was moving my phone around to find the spot with the highest lux, and used a ruler to get the same distance.
Original H4 (not sure if it's osram nightbreaker or regular) gave me just above 10,000 lux.
LED replacement bulb gave me a little above 4,000 lux......
I don't know if lux metering and my method of measurement is the proper way to do it, but I'm going to take a closer look into that.
These are the other two kits I got:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171454710056 (has external driver, kit has arrived already)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271564606624 (slightly curious to whether this is the same as the above, but it should have an internal driver).
I anxiously mounted the first bulb this weekend and took a pic to compare the original H4 with the LED. My first impression is mixed. I haven't tried it on the road, but from the pic it looks a bit like xenon bulbs in a non-lens headlamp == not too good.
I used my phone to measure the lux value in a distance of one meter in front of the headlamps, and the result was surprising and a bit disappointing. I was moving my phone around to find the spot with the highest lux, and used a ruler to get the same distance.
Original H4 (not sure if it's osram nightbreaker or regular) gave me just above 10,000 lux.
LED replacement bulb gave me a little above 4,000 lux......
I don't know if lux metering and my method of measurement is the proper way to do it, but I'm going to take a closer look into that.
LFD2037
TEXAS LEXUS!
The driver side light looks like an HID in a halogen/normal reflector. Looks like it just dumps/floods the light w/no throw @ all.
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Anyone?
Exactly the same way you replace the low beams. The highs are just accessed from the next hole inward (toward the center of the truck) on the core support.
hamishpotter
SILVER Star
Anyone have the single bulb, external driver highs or lows? Anyone?... : )
Thanks. I'll look again. Didn't see anything in there.
Agreed - my first thought too
I'm hoping the beam pattern is somewhat sensible when I get it on the road, but I'm not too optimistic.
I've read through all 8 pages of this thread and I can't believe nobody has mentioned how far off all you guys are. It's really dangerous to other drivers to not do this properly.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/20...tor-housings-reminder-some-you-out-there.html
"Because replaceable light sources are, by regulation, designed to be non-interchangeable, it would not be possible for an HID headlamp conversion set to meet the standard�s photometry requirements for an original equipment headlamp system using a halogen light source, so the replacement lamps could not be sold for this purpose. Furthermore, a headlamp dealer or motor vehicle repair business could not remove the original halogen headlamps and install HID replacement headlamps without violating 49 U.S.C. 30122. That section prohibits manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and motor vehicle repair businesses from making inoperative equipment installed in accordance with a Federal motor vehicle safety standard."
"HID conversion kits are illegal if any item in the kit does not comply with Federal requirements for vehicle lighting equipment.�Please read the letter carefully and apply our analysis to the components of the kits you are selling. If one or more of these components does not comply with FMVSS No. 108, then you should cease the sale and distribution of this equipment.� Your failure to do so could make your company liable for� civil penalties for violations of 49 U.S.C. 30112(a).�If your company manufactured or imported noncompliant HID conversion kits for resale, your company is required to notify this agency, dealers, purchasers, and owners of the kits and to remedy the noncompliance in accordance with 49 U.S.C. 30118-30120 and 49 CFR Parts 573 and 577.� I should advise you that we know of no HID conversion kit that can be certified by its manufacturer as complying with FMVSS No. 108."
"The only available arc capsules have a longitudinal arc (arc path runs front to back) on the axis of the bulb, but many popular halogen headlamp bulbs, such as 9004, 9007, H3 and H12, use a filament that is transverse (side-to-side) and/or offset (not on the axis of the bulb) central axis of the headlamp reflector). In this case, it is impossible even to roughly approximate the position and orientation of the filament with a "retrofit" HID capsule. Just because your headlamp might use an axial-filament bulb, though, doesn't mean you've jumped the hurdles—the laws of optical physics don't bend even for the cleverest marketing department, nor for the catchiest HID "retrofit" kit box."
"The most dangerous part of the attempt to "retrofit" Xenon headlamps is that sometimes you get a deceptive and illusory "improvement" in the performance of the headlamp. The performance of the headlamp is perceived to be "better" because of the much higher level of foreground lighting (on the road immediately in front of the car). However, the beam patterns produced by this kind of "conversion" virtually always give less distance light, and often an alarming lack of light where there's meant to be a relative maximum in light intensity. The result is the illusion that you can see better than you actually can, and that's not safe."
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/20...tor-housings-reminder-some-you-out-there.html
"Because replaceable light sources are, by regulation, designed to be non-interchangeable, it would not be possible for an HID headlamp conversion set to meet the standard�s photometry requirements for an original equipment headlamp system using a halogen light source, so the replacement lamps could not be sold for this purpose. Furthermore, a headlamp dealer or motor vehicle repair business could not remove the original halogen headlamps and install HID replacement headlamps without violating 49 U.S.C. 30122. That section prohibits manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and motor vehicle repair businesses from making inoperative equipment installed in accordance with a Federal motor vehicle safety standard."
"HID conversion kits are illegal if any item in the kit does not comply with Federal requirements for vehicle lighting equipment.�Please read the letter carefully and apply our analysis to the components of the kits you are selling. If one or more of these components does not comply with FMVSS No. 108, then you should cease the sale and distribution of this equipment.� Your failure to do so could make your company liable for� civil penalties for violations of 49 U.S.C. 30112(a).�If your company manufactured or imported noncompliant HID conversion kits for resale, your company is required to notify this agency, dealers, purchasers, and owners of the kits and to remedy the noncompliance in accordance with 49 U.S.C. 30118-30120 and 49 CFR Parts 573 and 577.� I should advise you that we know of no HID conversion kit that can be certified by its manufacturer as complying with FMVSS No. 108."
"The only available arc capsules have a longitudinal arc (arc path runs front to back) on the axis of the bulb, but many popular halogen headlamp bulbs, such as 9004, 9007, H3 and H12, use a filament that is transverse (side-to-side) and/or offset (not on the axis of the bulb) central axis of the headlamp reflector). In this case, it is impossible even to roughly approximate the position and orientation of the filament with a "retrofit" HID capsule. Just because your headlamp might use an axial-filament bulb, though, doesn't mean you've jumped the hurdles—the laws of optical physics don't bend even for the cleverest marketing department, nor for the catchiest HID "retrofit" kit box."
"The most dangerous part of the attempt to "retrofit" Xenon headlamps is that sometimes you get a deceptive and illusory "improvement" in the performance of the headlamp. The performance of the headlamp is perceived to be "better" because of the much higher level of foreground lighting (on the road immediately in front of the car). However, the beam patterns produced by this kind of "conversion" virtually always give less distance light, and often an alarming lack of light where there's meant to be a relative maximum in light intensity. The result is the illusion that you can see better than you actually can, and that's not safe."
THere has been lots of HID talk in this thread. LED's aren't any better anyway.
LEDs are very different from HIDs. Anyways, this thread is about putting LEDs into the trucks, which is a safe direct replacement.
LFD2037
TEXAS LEXUS!
You're drunk. This thread is about LED's, not HID's. Nobody in this entire thread has suggested putting HID's in. The 2 do t even compare in any way.
bluecruiser
SILVER Star
I ran the the eBay low beams through a couple hundred miles of AZ and Death Valley washboard and dust. So far, no issues and the added light output has been very useful. Wasn't flashed during any highway or city driving either. I aimed them all the way down and still get street signs illuminated perfectly.
I stand corrected on the thread topic. Would be curious to know your source of info in regards to the safety of these. Not the safety of the owner but the safety of other drivers in regards to the optical properties of the LED modification.
I jumped on and got a pair of these (shipped to AZ in about a week!) noticed most people have installed with the wire down so the LED's are facing up and down. I tried this, bulbs didn't line up well but I got them in tight still, and got a lot of vertical light scatter; I rotated them 90 degrees so LED's faced right/left and got a more clear vertical cut off, decent side dispersion, and so far no one has flashed me and even the cop I was behind didn't seem to mind. I still need to aim them down a little, but the left/right orientation seemed to work better for me.
Could anyone else chime in or post pics of how yours look on a wall from about 20-30 feet?
Could anyone else chime in or post pics of how yours look on a wall from about 20-30 feet?
I don't have a source. I have just stood in front of them and they didn't blind me. I have run LEDs in all my cars and never had any issues or even been flashed. At the end of the day, these things are brighter than the halogens, but not THAT much brighter.
