Knuckle Cut & Turn (3 Viewers)

[Krazytoy]

Nice job! How does it compare to the caster bushings? Any noticeable difference?

I can't say, I never installed the bushings I had. I'm sure the bushings work just fine.

The big advantage of this is that you de-couple the pinion angle from the caster so that you can get caster back without changing pinion angle.

Exactly, I had zero driveline vibrations or any other issues that needed to be corrected. The castor was not bad, I just wanted to make it better.

What's there to argue about? Castor plates simply work. And work well.

It probably took me about an hour to install. Real easy. And the results are great!

It's not free. You need a grinder, sawzall and a welder. Which cost way more that castor plates will ever cost.

^There's no such thing as a free lunch.

You say there is nothing to argue about yet you keep coming back flapping your gums about how great your plates are. If this thread was a discussion about which is better you would have a place to run your mouth, however, I am simple trying to show the great Mud members how I corrected the castor issue once you lift an 80. I have gained an immense amount of knowledge from this site so I figured I would share something I know a great deal about. Keep running your plates, nobody really cares which is better or which cost less money.

I just got back from the alignment shop and I am very surprised where the castor actually ended up, its at 3.9* on the right and 3.4* on the left, not nearly the 5* I was shooting for but well within the acceptable range. Everything else checked out and they adjusted the toe just a tad, hard to get the toe just right by yourself in the garage with just a tape...

 

[86tuning]

Nice tech. Thank you for the pictures and the instructions on where to measure. I shall do this someday, on some vehicle, and to me, the info is gold.

Cheers.

 

[Wrench]

You say there is nothing to argue about yet you keep coming back flapping your gums about how great your plates are. If this thread was a discussion about which is better you would have a place to run your mouth, however, I am simple trying to show the great Mud members how I corrected the castor issue once you lift an 80. I have gained an immense amount of knowledge from this site so I figured I would share something I know a great deal about. Keep running your plates, nobody really cares which is better or which cost less money.

Who's arguing? I'm just stating the fact that it is easier to do castor plates than cut and turn. Jeez. You just can't handle the truth.

 

[Krazytoy]

Nice tech. Thank you for the pictures and the instructions on where to measure. I shall do this someday, on some vehicle, and to me, the info is gold.

Cheers.

Thank you, this is exactly why I did it.

Who's arguing? I'm just stating the fact that it is easier to do castor plates than cut and turn. Jeez. You just can't handle the truth.

Yes you are correct, castor plates are easier and cheaper to do and absolutely the best way to handle castor. Now go back to your "which tire is best" thread...

 

[Wrench]

Yes you are correct, castor plates are easier and cheaper to do and absolutely the best way to handle castor. Now go back to your "which tire is best" thread...

Finally! I knew you would see it my way!

Now go back to your" What's the biggest tire I can fit with a 2.5 lift" Thread.....

 

[1973Guppie]

you're all just chat bitches.......

 

[Krazytoy]

Now go back to your" What's the biggest tire I can fit with a 2.5 lift" Thread.....

35's with castor plates and 37's if you do a cut & turn on the knuckles! Hahahaha

 

[Wrench]

35's with castor plates and 37's if you do a cut & turn on the knuckles! Hahahaha

LOL Very funny.

 

[Tapage]

kudos Krazytoy ..

1. Can you tell linear how much you rotate your knuckle .? ( 1/2 " ? )

2. Curious how many hours to do all .. brakes, knuckle job, R&P .. you are my hero bro ..

 

[Krazytoy]

kudos Krazytoy ..

1. Can you tell linear how much you rotate your knuckle .? ( 1/2 " ? )

2. Curious how many hours to do all .. brakes, knuckle job, R&P .. you are my hero bro ..

I believe it ended up only being 3/16" or 4.7625 mm for the rest of the world.

Hero? I don't think so my friend! I am going to get down to your part of the world one of these days and wheel with you and your crew.
All in all I would say I had right around 30 hours in it from Friday afternoon till Sunday, that is including cervezas!

 

[Douglas S]

Careful guys, he has a "Hardcore Rock Crawling 80". He clearly knows what's up.

 

[Wrench]

Careful guys, he has a "Hardcore Rock Crawling 80". He clearly knows what's up.

Jealousy will get you nowhere.

 

[Funner]

I can't say, I never installed the bushings I had. I'm sure the bushings work just fine.



Exactly, I had zero driveline vibrations or any other issues that needed to be corrected. The castor was not bad, I just wanted to make it better.








You say there is nothing to argue about yet you keep coming back flapping your gums about how great your plates are. If this thread was a discussion about which is better you would have a place to run your mouth, however, I am simple trying to show the great Mud members how I corrected the castor issue once you lift an 80. I have gained an immense amount of knowledge from this site so I figured I would share something I know a great deal about. Keep running your plates, nobody really cares which is better or which cost less money.

I just got back from the alignment shop and I am very surprised where the castor actually ended up, its at 3.9* on the right and 3.4* on the left, not nearly the 5* I was shooting for but well within the acceptable range. Everything else checked out and they adjusted the toe just a tad, hard to get the toe just right by yourself in the garage with just a tape...

Care to share tips/reasons they didn't come out equal on each side? Does it matter that the two sides didn't come out the same or is it fine they don't match as long as they are within spec?

 

[TheBigBoy]

Nicely done Krazytoy. 3.5 is exactly where you want it to be.

What's there to argue about? Castor plates simply work. And work well.
It probably took me about an hour to install. Real easy. And the results are great!

Why dont you marry caster plates .


FYI, cut and turn is FAR BETTER than plates. Your not dragging 1 of the bushes further away from the axle centre, and changing your deflection axles. And as stated, your drive shaft angles remain the same. = drives and handles bumps way nicer. More clearance. Less chance of drive line vibrations. Slightly better travel. And completely un noticeable to the untrained eye.

 

[DARKNESS]

Half a degree seems pretty good considering it was done on the truck with no specialized vises or jigs.

 

[TheBigBoy]

Care to share tips/reasons they didn't come out equal on each side? Does it matter that the two sides didn't come out the same or is it fine they don't match as long as they are within spec?

Not 1 caster check I have ever seen has been equal from factory. 1 side is always 0.4-0.5 out from each other. So its almost perfect.

 

[Krazytoy]

Care to share tips/reasons they didn't come out equal on each side? Does it matter that the two sides didn't come out the same or is it fine they don't match as long as they are within spec?

Castor will differ from the factory, the alignment guy said they try and make up for the crown in the road. All of the specifications have some give in how accurate it is, I think the tolerance in the equipment is part of it as well as when you weld things they tend to move. The sheet they gave me says the camber can be from .3* to 1.8* mine is at .7* and .4*. Alignments are one of those things that I bet if I took it across town to a different shop I think the readings would slightly differ.

 

[retrofive]

Castor will differ from the factory, the alignment guy said they try and make up for the crown in the road. All of the specifications have some give in how accurate it is, I think the tolerance in the equipment is part of it as well as when you weld things they tend to move. The sheet they gave me says the camber can be from .3* to 1.8* mine is at .7* and .4*. Alignments are one of those things that I bet if I took it across town to a different shop I think the readings would slightly differ.

Caster numbers seem good and right in spec. But shooting for 5*?

 

[floridan surfer]

It's not free. You need a grinder, sawzall and a welder. Which cost way more that castor plates will ever cost.

My bad. LOL. I guessed I assumed most of us driving and modding 20year old vehicles already has that stuff.

Pat

 

[alia176]

A job well done indeed. I'd love to see a post cut/turn shot with the same level gauge readout. I think that'd close this thread up nicely.