JW Offroad Spare Tire Mount
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At the same time that picture might mean the system needs to be mounted in the center so it can catch support depending on how the support is mounted to the frame.
Basic physics can be dis-proven with real life trial and error. Best to call it a theory until it get some real world testing.
I said earlier it would go to $600. They just wanted to prove me wrong.
It will slowly creep up to $950 as they figure out what doesn't work, adding on features, and powdercoating, etc. Also, once a few doors fail and warranty fun kicks in.
I am still not sold on this design (becky included). 35” spare is a lot of weight for the stock hinges and latch even with the added support. Looks like they will do great with regular driving and slow trail riding but I like to go fast. I will be keeping an eye on these and see which is the best route to go come tax return time.Basic physics can be dis-proven with real life trial and error. Best to call it a theory until it get some real world testing.
According to the ad, it's powdercoated at the original price point.
I haven't looked; does the Becky come powdercoated or is that an additional cost on top of the $1k?
With the new support design, I don't see this failing any easier than the Becky would.
One supports the tire, one supports the door. They both add the support in the centerline of the door.
Seems to me, the major difference is the cost and pending options for modular mounts.
I haven't looked; does the Becky come powdercoated or is that an additional cost on top of the $1k?
With the new support design, I don't see this failing any easier than the Becky would.
One supports the tire, one supports the door. They both add the support in the centerline of the door.
Seems to me, the major difference is the cost and pending options for modular mounts.
HAHA Don't be a Debby downer Dan!
$600 is what Becky should have cost too. It was only a matter of time for a company to swoop in on this opportunity.I said earlier it would go to $600. They just wanted to prove me wrong.
Exactly.
Basic physics can be dis-proven with real life trial and error. Best to call it a theory until it get some real world testing.
No argument there. I would think that trail effects would be largely seen at the points where these carriers mount to the swing door itself (the door's metal skin since that's where most of the point-loads should be transmitted back to the GX when things-start-a-bouncin'-around). The hinges should see their largest additional loads once the door is opened (which is relatively infrequent) - hence possibly mounting it closer to the hinges resulting in a lower moment/torque.
In both cases, I don't think the design has any obvious flaws but that said, I agree that ultimately time will tell. And no, I'm not trying to be negative. I would love it if this proves a great design and the price stays put. I'm not a buyer....yet
.I have bought stock in popcorn for sure. Gonna let the real world R&D sort this out before I pull the trigger.No argument there. I would think that trail effects would be largely seen at the points where these carriers mount to the swing door itself (the door's metal skin since that's where most of the point-loads should be transmitted back to the GX when things-start-a-bouncin'-around). The hinges should see their largest additional loads once the door is opened (which is relatively infrequent) - hence possibly mounting it closer to the hinges resulting in a lower moment/torque.
In both cases, I don't think the design has any obvious flaws but that said, I agree that ultimately time will tell. And no, I'm not trying to be negative. I would love it if this proves a great design and the price stays put. I'm not a buyer....yet
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This is why I don't build stuff for people any more. I applaud their effort but who needs the headache.
Want to build me a rear bumper with swingout
Sure. It will cost you $1 million doll hairs.Want to build me a rear bumper with swingout
I agree. The issue I see is the amount of cutting, prep, welding, and powdercoat, plus the time to develop it. I wager they are losing money on $450 price. So they set that, push out 10-30 units. Realize the price is off, raise it to $575. But they already lost money. So now the new batches go out (still a great price!). The margins they now make don't offset the initial losses. Time goes on. Raise the price again. $625? $650? Add new stuff, change the support structure. Sell some more. Now the first gens are starting to have hinge issues directly related with the gen 1 stuff. People come back and ask for a door shell. Things get complicated. More time fighting warranty issues on the first 10-30 products shipped than making the 20-30 orders pending. Redesign, supports, add ons sorted. Base model with the support costs $750 now because they had to replace the first 10-30. Add on the license wing, other toys...$800. It's how a lot of fab shops wanting to take a good idea and making it theirs tend to go. I don't doubt the skill, quality, or initiative of this shop. I don't think it is a very appropriate thing to fairly obviously copy another small shop doing the same thing that took the above into account and essentially low balling the price. Just the steel and water/laser cutting per rig as I see it above is $150-200, even if done in house (cost of machinery, steel, time). Nevermind the drawing, testing, and welding time. All before powder. But the customer is king, even when they chase you to the bottom of the money barrel.
Well there’s your problem @Vlad you assumed they spent a lot of money on testing... you have clearly already put more thought into this than they have. Don’t forget they went on a whim with their design and were shocked at how strong the hinges were even though a quick google search shows that they are weak.
It’s going to be interesting how the design holds up with both companies. I can guarantee you both companies won’t be paying for a rear door if something happens.
Probably true. The fight not to could be interesting.
I find it noteworthy that these trucks have been in hard environments for years, and there isn't an easily Googleable solution to add door-mounted tire carriers here in the U.S. I like that this is being explored, as this seems a sensible alternative to a rear swing out, but if the Aussies haven't figured this out yet...
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