Hey guys! Can any of you identify this winch and its relay setup? (Obviously missing some bits)
Thanks!
-Seth
Thanks!
-Seth
Identify this winch?
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Looks home rigged and totally safe. I would run it as is. 
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Please dont turn it on.
......Please dont turn it on.
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Haha... I was tracing those wires and very glad I didn’t throw some jumper cables on the starter to roll the truck...
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Yeah, it’s definitely not staying on the truck.
...Still want to try to ID it.
Bueller...anyone?
...Still want to try to ID it.
Bueller...anyone?
Living in the Past
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I bought a 73 FST that has a similar winch. Was made locally in the Phoenix area using a jet engine starter from what I was told. Mine even has a plate with info on it. That included a phone number. It has the flange with all the holes that allow you to rotate how ever you want.
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Here are some pictures I took when I picked up a bumper off CL for cheap. Can see on the driver's side the homemade drum release.
I’ve got one. Much cleaner. I was told it’s an aircraft landing gear motor by the local auto electric shop. They’re precision machined with sealed bearings. No Cheasy cheap bushings. Probably about 8000 lb capacity.
They’ll easily drag a vehicle across a muddy field.
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JAHCO JF4HR WW2 aircraft starter motor
Looks like it was originally 24v. I’m not sure if mine was converted to 12v when it was rewired to be reversible... or if it is a 24v running on 12v.
They also have 8 large brushes... military redundancy.
They’ll easily drag a vehicle across a muddy field.
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JAHCO JF4HR WW2 aircraft starter motor
Looks like it was originally 24v. I’m not sure if mine was converted to 12v when it was rewired to be reversible... or if it is a 24v running on 12v.
They also have 8 large brushes... military redundancy.
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^^... pretty common in the 70s and 80's. That Phoenix builder sold them through the back ads in the 4x4 magazines.
To all you young folk, that's how it was done before the internet. For same day service you would have to show up at his house
or shop. On the bright side you didn't need to buy a Prime membership to get that one day service. There were version built with
WWII bomber starters also. Good things happen when clever guys have access to surplus yards
To all you young folk, that's how it was done before the internet. For same day service you would have to show up at his house
or shop. On the bright side you didn't need to buy a Prime membership to get that one day service. There were version built with
WWII bomber starters also. Good things happen when clever guys have access to surplus yards
I think that was built the Red Green company out of Canada eh.
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Landing gear motor makes more sense. Think it would require quite a gear box to step it up fast enough to start a jet engine. Do believe it is military. We use to have Williams Field in Mesa and still have Luke in the west valley. Know there a military auctions in area. Could see these being sold off in lots stacked on a pallet. Have see if there is a data plate on mine. I'm ashamed to say I bought this cruiser in 94 and have never even started. Price it was offered to me I could pass up. Did put a charged battery in the cruiser to load it on a car hauler when bought it. Winch worked find but only forward on mine. Never looked into it enough to see if the case is ground or if adding extra solenoids could get it to power out. Generally run PTO winches and have a few other electric winches area.
there's a lot of truth in the above.
similar to watching old TV shows and you see the actors using payphones
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Fixed it for you! In those days, if you wanted cool stuff, often had to make it, with whatever was available.
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Wasn't too long ago people were smoking everywhere in the movies. The one I do get a kick out of is the old black and white from the thirties and forties when you see the driver get in the passenger's side and slide across behind the steering wheel in the boats they use to drive. I'm old but those are before my time.
A lot of the old WWII engines used electric starter. Jets came later. You had a few options with the early props, the manual start where
you grab the prop, pull and stand back, an electric starter and in some cases a combustion type. Many of the big planes had onboard generators that would power the starter which avoided the need for dual Optimas
didn't seem to need to spin very fast to get going
you grab the prop, pull and stand back, an electric starter and in some cases a combustion type. Many of the big planes had onboard generators that would power the starter which avoided the need for dual Optimas
didn't seem to need to spin very fast to get going
Love how the wings deploy... the first transformer
By original design 1/2 the brushes were connected to ground. They are now wired so polarity can be reversed. I once made the mistake of reversing the load direction, and it messed up the armature a bit.
It starts off slow and builds up speed. I can see it being a starter motor... especially if it originally spun under double the voltage.
The outer “windings” aren’t wire, but instead coils of thin sheet metal. As for the armature, it’s almost completely sealed and I don’t remember what if anything I could see. Mine has been off since ‘96 when I melted down the wiring after pulling a 2wd van out of a 3’ deep hole. The winch is fine, but the control wire shorted out when I went to check on the progress. The winch was only half installed when I came across these 2 guys trying to cross a deep trench in a stock van.
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So if early Land Cruisers used aircraft starter motors for winches, what did Jeeps use? GoCart motors? Good thing the space age came a bit later, who knows what we'd seen "cuz it's available."
