How to properly recover from a riverbed (1 Viewer)

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This guy and his crew were on a rafting trip but managed to keep the rig on dry ground with fairly similar looking A pillars

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But if you read the story, they took an embankment at like 60 mph and launched into a twisting rollover.......

At least I think that was this one.....
 
I think the “take-away” here, is always consider the force of the current in river recoveries.

There maybe situations where as hobbyist, we are doing a river recovery.

I have been paddling/rowing rivers since I was 12. I have been told: a submerged canoe in an “average” current will press on an obstruction with 10 tons of force.

^^^^^ I can attest to that. My younger brother and I (when we were still teens) managed to wrap a 17' Aluminum Grumman around a rock in the Pedernales River just outside of Austin, TX.

We had canoed that river many times before...but the water level and current speed that day messed up our intended Eddy Turn and we ended up centered on the rock. Bad thing about aluminum is that it 'grabs' everything. Leaning downstream did nothing to help float us off it and the canoe flipped.

It rolled 180° against the rock dumping me but left my brother pinned by the water pressure in the bottom of the canoe at the bow. He had his head above the water but couldn't get a good foot hold to push himself out.

The water was only about chest deep on me and I worked my way over to him and pulled him out. We swam with the current at an angle to the shore and got out. Nothing we could do to retrieve or salvage the canoe. It was wrapped around the rock and wasn't going anywhere. That is where we were forced to leave it.

We are both strong swimmers and have always been athletic, especially in our youth...but I can tell you this: DO NOT underestimate the power or moving water.
 
Curious if this was a normal trail crossing and s%^t just happened?
 
Curious if this was a normal trail crossing and s%^t just happened?


I know the guy, and he told me he drove to close to the river bank and it gave way and he went into the river before he could do anything, then a month later his house burned down
 
I know the guy, and he told me he drove to close to the river bank and it gave way and he went into the river before he could do anything, then a month later his house burned down

Double buzzkill for him. At least he survived to tell the story(s) and provide a video for us to learn from. It's so easy for folks to take photos or video out of context and unload on someone before they know what actually happened.
 
That is my buddies rig, and that was the only way to get it out, jumping in 48* water to save a vehicle that is unsavable, and at that point it's just pulling it out to keep it from pollution in the river, the location is the only place they could get access to it.

This story did not end, 2 months later his house caught fire and his left over cruiser got burned up :deadhorse:


@White Stripe I guess you don't live in the PNW that river would kill you for a stupid vehicle, that is screwed anyway
Sorry to hear about your buddies cruiser...thing must have been cursed if the poor bastards house and wrecked cruiser burnt. What river was it out of curiosity?
 
On a dare, I attempted to cross a retention pond known as "Dead Lake" about 25 years ago. I was very young and very dumb. Drove my stock 1977 FJ40 on 31s straight in, and was chugging along through about 3 feet of water just fine until I hit the creek bed(?) and the front end took a nose dive. My "friend" and I literally swam out the windows and back to shore. I looked out and could see just the rear top of the roof barely sticking out of the water. The tow truck couldnt get to where we were, so we used my friends 1963 Kaiser Jeep with a PTO and another truck to act as anchor. It was night by the time we were all set up to try to pull it out, and of course it was on me to swim out there and hook up the winch cable. In February, in the dark. It was SC but its still cold in February. I got to the 40 and then swam under water and hooked it to either the axle or shackle or frame itself, dont remember which. Not moving water like in a river. It pulled straight out and stayed on its wheels and suffered no body damage but it had ingested water, and was electrically pretty fried. My dad wore me out and sold it for about $1200, still covered in "swamp life".
 
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,thought about washing the rig today but after seeing this I think I'll just keep it dirty. Sorry about your rig and home but alive is better than any of it.
 
Sorry to hear about your buddies cruiser...thing must have been cursed if the poor bastards house and wrecked cruiser burnt. What river was it out of curiosity?

Puyallup in washington
 
I was doing less than 35, but we did get airborne significantly. That roof didn’t just get rolled over onto to be accurate. It took about what a 4/5 foot drop onto it may have caused in force over the front A/B pillar portion of the roof immediately on asphalt.

The funky road is pretty notorious for tge many port and efresses, driveways and hilly and twisty path... we did a corkscrew is about as best as I can describe.

Ironically, as a passenger, I was in a car that did 3.5 rolls in nearly the exact location some 20 years earlier... not airborne, there were substantial shoulders back then... blonde in a bmw... I personally have no real excuse for my stint, except, to hell with the raft, keep both ya da on tgexwheel and have passengers deal with cargo they ‘secured’

I drive a 4 runner that’s the exact same running gear now. It’s the same 3 link, coil-overs(carbon copy) ...... the rear is better(not lifted stock) and there’s a definitive difference in that alone.

Roll axis is really really bad on these if 4+ coils on factory parts squat and dive are dramatically changed, but the oversteer is rediculous(even if only induced from the rear).

Fear not,cheap Chinese snorkels have proven resilient to such affairs and provide protection for seatbelted occupants!
 
Double buzzkill for him. At least he survived to tell the story(s) and provide a video for us to learn from. It's so easy for folks to take photos or video out of context and unload on someone before they know what actually happened.
Ouch!!! Just the hours and hours of hard work on the 80 is enough for me to avoid pics... I stripped it and sold or gave pieces away... nearly two years later I decided to do another rig. Kind of a redemption thing actually... can’t leave having failed. Gotta drive off with the pride of at least not repeating. I could have cut thatcrear suspension off and fixed the geometry, if even leaf sprung. That sh!t was just a lazy mistake and procrastinating while awaiting a possible doubler in development. Excuses and some laziness. Hindesight.
 
Ouch!!! Just the hours and hours of hard work on the 80 is enough for me to avoid pics... I stripped it and sold or gave pieces away... nearly two years later I decided to do another rig. Kind of a redemption thing actually... can’t leave having failed. Gotta drive off with the pride of at least not repeating. I could have cut thatcrear suspension off and fixed the geometry, if even leaf sprung. That sh!t was just a lazy mistake and procrastinating while awaiting a possible doubler in development. Excuses and some laziness. Hindesight.

I miss you. And the doubler thing never happened because northwestfab suck
 
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I miss you. And the doubler thing never happened because northwestfab suck

I got this and a huge stockpile of parts.... we gotta hookup for fordyce or Barrett in the future! Drink beer at campfire and drunk design new suspensions! Draw that s*** and laughtvtge next morning at the funky bench engineering concoctions
 
Hell yeah brotato. You still go to the santa cruz mountains?
I haven’t been in quite awhile, I’m overdue bigtime and miss those peeps. I’ve been a bit of a hermit for awhile... graveyard shift at work makes it all goofy to manage kinda, I’ll arrive tired as fook, but it’ll be dinner time, or I won’t be able to sleep at midnight and keep everyone else up like a dumby
 
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I haven’t been in quite awhile, I’m overdue bigtime and miss those peeps. I’ve been a bit of a hermit for awhile... graveyard shift at work makes it all goofy to manage kinda, I’ll arrive tired as fook, but it’ll be dinner time, or I won’t be able to sleep at midnight and keep everyone else up like a dumby
Nice. I'm working on building a 100 series these days
 
Cause your a pimp!! A nice engine and a little different look, as good or close snug to 80 imo. don’t need to mention the axles abd suspension... you got that sorted I’m sure. Or there’s a master plan involving best use of available workspace and a solution that you found in a small affective window of link lengths and locations uniqueyet as good as any.
 

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