Getting ready to order my OME 2.5 lift, had a question

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In this picture, I have a 90lb box of gear & tools, 20lb CO2 bottle, and my 35" spare.....still sits on the high side of level.
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I'm wondering what all the guys running heavy front/ meduim rear do when they load up the truck with lots of gear in the back? You have a level stance on the street, but then when you go to use the vehicle for what its intended for, the back end sags under the weight? Doesnt seem very logical to me, but I'm new to LC's being a Rover guy all my life...

I am running 850/860's (heavy front/medium rear) and have an ARB front bumper with no winch currently installed, stock rear bumper, and the third row is currently installed. I just measured and even with the heavy fronts the rear is still .5"-.625" higher.

When loaded down with the family and gear I don't notice any back end sag (probably gets level when loaded), however I just delivered a 250lb TV to a friend with the family and could feel it sag. If I had gear in the back all the time or an aftermarket rear bumper I would be running heavies (863's) in the back, but for my usage the current setup works great.

Beyond the stance spring selection should really be based on height of lift and weight your running.
 
So I'm getting ready to order my 2.5 and was talking with a local shop earlier. They said to go with the heavy springs in the front and the mediums in the rear. They said that the mediums in the front sag over time and get sloppy. Who agrees/disagrees with that?

I just wanted to be sure before I ordered them.

Also, who has the best prices and is most reputable?

thanks!

That's the setup I've been running for a few years now with no regrets. I have an ARB in front...
 
I am open to other lifts that are more comfortable, but don't want to go as high as 3.5. Just a 2 or 2.5 is what I am after.

Give Frankie a call because I think he did do a shorter spring for someone on the board around 2 - 2.5"

You could get a thousand opinions from everyone on the boards, it is fun and addicting, or you could call the experts and speak to them yourself. So Slee and Frankie would be the two I would call first if I were you.
 
I am running 850/860's (heavy front/medium rear) and have an ARB front bumper with no winch currently installed, stock rear bumper, and the third row is currently installed. I just measured and even with the heavy fronts the rear is still .5"-.625" higher.

When loaded down with the family and gear I don't notice any back end sag (probably gets level when loaded), however I just delivered a 250lb TV to a friend with the family and could feel it sag. If I had gear in the back all the time or an aftermarket rear bumper I would be running heavies (863's) in the back, but for my usage the current setup works great.

Beyond the stance spring selection should really be based on height of lift and weight your running.


I think you nailed it on the last comment. It all comes down to personal needs.

Right now I need to keep the truck under that 3" (give or take) lift so I dont have to worry about buying other parts such as UCA's to correct pinion angles, or ruining the drivebility of the truck up front. The medium lift will give me a good base to build my bumpers this winter. Also I carry a lot of gear on my hunting trips (food/gear for multiple people for a week gets heavy!) so I think i'm better off a little stink bug. If I went with the heavy/medium combo it may sit low in back from all the weight and the heavy spring front. So I guess it comes down to whether or not you want the truck level while empty, or level while loaded?

Turbo D, do you plan on carrying a lot of gear in the back?

of course I have no idea how much higher the rear will be, or how much things will sag with weight, so I'll just have to find out what works best for me.
 
TurboD...if I were you, I would get the 285 tires first and then research the spring/shocks a little more.

If you don't have the need for armor/weight like 90% of us on this board, then new stock springs/shocks shall be your solution.
 
I think you nailed it on the last comment. It all comes down to personal needs.

Right now I need to keep the truck under that 3" (give or take) lift so I dont have to worry about buying other parts such as UCA's to correct pinion angles, or ruining the drivebility of the truck up front. The medium lift will give me a good base to build my bumpers this winter. Also I carry a lot of gear on my hunting trips (food/gear for multiple people for a week gets heavy!) so I think i'm better off a little stink bug. If I went with the heavy/medium combo it may sit low in back from all the weight and the heavy spring front. So I guess it comes down to whether or not you want the truck level while empty, or level while loaded?

Turbo D, do you plan on carrying a lot of gear in the back?

of course I have no idea how much higher the rear will be, or how much things will sag with weight, so I'll just have to find out what works best for me.

Sounds like you have a good plan. If you do decide you need a little extra lift over the medium fronts this is a good read:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/44674-dont-swap-med-heavy-oem-springs.html
 
vccruizer is that ur 850/860 combo with 35's?

In that picture, I also have the 30mm spring spacers from Manafre on all 4 corners. I addd these for additional lift so I could wheel on more aggressive trails. The picture below is without the spacers. 35s in both pictures.
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This. I went with the straight medium kit and I think it looks fine and the ride is MUCH better than stock. I was going to get the heavy, but was talked out of it by Christo because I wasn't going to add bumpers, etc. for at least a year. Christo said that the truck is a lot harder to drive with the heavies without the extra weight to bring the truck down.

I am running 295/75's for tires and this is for me a great compromise between daily driveability and wheelability. At 9000ft, where I live, any bigger tires would drain way too much more of the power that these trucks already don't have. I notice a pretty big difference in power(less) with these 33" tires. Any bigger and I would have to regear for sure.


I talked to Christo today about what I wanted to use my truck for, and he recommended the mediums for my application. I didn't want to go with the heavies all around because I dont have my bumpers built yet. Once I finish my bumpers, i'll decide if I need new springs or not, but while i'm building them (and other parts) the mediums should work fine.


I'm wondering what all the guys running heavy front/ meduim rear do when they load up the truck with lots of gear in the back? You have a level stance on the street, but then when you go to use the vehicle for what its intended for, the back end sags under the weight? Doesnt seem very logical to me, but I'm new to LC's being a Rover guy all my life...
 
In that picture, I also have the 30mm spring spacers from Manafre on all 4 corners. I addd these for additional lift so I could wheel on more aggressive trails. The picture below is without the spacers. 35s in both pictures.

You have med/med, correct? And in that prior pic you have your 4x4labs bumper, also correct?

I've added a dual battery, ARB and M12k up front, so I know I need heavy there.

In the back, I'm in the process of adding a 4x4labs bumper and sliders. I always carry a fridge (nearly 100lbs when loaded) and usually carry my CO2 tank, small set of tools, recovery bag, etc.....I was planning to do heavy in back, but want to be sure I'm not going to be a 45-degree stink-bug and funky looking.........will the mediums be a better choice?

Thanks

-JG-
 
What is the best suspension is equal to; how long is a piece of string, what is the best tire, etc. The answer is there isn't a "best", there can't be, users have differing uses, expectations, personal preferences, etc.

The best plan is to hook up with a local club, ride in or preferably drive setup rigs and see what you like. If the plan includes wheeling, attend a trail run (or a few) ride in some rigs, see what works in the local terrain and what you prefer. I have seen way too many totally setup a rig to "forum recommendation". Then, on the trail find that it has big compromises and spend more $$$ "fixing" it. A great setup rig for mud, wont work the best in desert, a great desert rig isn't going to be the best in slippery forest conditions, etc. It is best to look to local info, optimize your setup for the primary conditions, terrain that it will be used in.

Another good source to talk to is Kurt from Cruiser Outfitters. Good guy with lots of experience.:cool:
 
i c vccruzer tnks.... i got the money for a lift to planning on the 850/860 combo with maf spacers up front..... anybody running that? and anybody running that with 33s how is the off road capabilities?
 
I won't be carrying a lot of gear in the back, so definitely mediums in the back. I will be putting an ARB bumper on front, so that leans me towards the heavys.

I guess my real decision is 33's or 35's. The 35's look best for damn sure. The 35's also suck away even more power though and also mess with the speedo and shift points more that the 33's.

So basically if you want the best "look" then you have to spend more money and put up with more drivability issues that you will need to correct.

So anybody got some good 2.5 and 33's pictures? :D

I know my ATL brother posted one on the first page but it is kind of hard to tell since it's covered in mud ;)
 
I have been running the 850/860 combo with an ARB/M12k for a couple of years now. I think this set-up is ideal for tooling around town as well as very capable in most off road situations. The ride is very good on road and off. Below is a picture of what my truck looks like with this combo. I am running Revo285s. If I had it to do over again I prolly would have opted for the 295s in a MT pattern. I bought my lift from Slee. His prices were very good. However, his service is better.
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I have some other pictures in an album on my profile page.
 
OME Mediums 851/860 and 285 Coopers. No third row.

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OME Mediums 851/860, Rear 4x4 labs bumper, Bump it offroad sliders, and no third row. 315 Coopers. (Also 60-75lbs of S/C junk under the hood)


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OME Mediums 851/860 +1" front Mr. Gasket spacer, Arb winch bar (no winch), Rear 4x4 labs bumper, Bump it offroad sliders, and no third row. 315 Coopers. (Also 60-75lbs of S/C junk under the hood)

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So anybody got some good 2.5 and 33's pictures? :D

Not the best pictures, but will give you an idea on how it looks. Here's mine with 850/860's (Heavy/Mediums) and 285 Nitto Terra Grapplers.

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Sounds like you have a good plan. If you do decide you need a little extra lift over the medium fronts this is a good read:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/44674-dont-swap-med-heavy-oem-springs.html

that is a very good point in that thread and I see a guy below that did the same thing. You can run mediums all the way around, and if you want it higher in the front you can just add a spacer instead of switching to heavy springs.

They have the exact same spring rate, but the fact that it is longer may cause for a couple people saying that it rides more harsh than the mediums. Maybe the front suspension has a very specific threshold and things can change greatly in just .5 - 1.0 inch.

Dang this is a tough call! :D
 
OME Mediums 851/860 and 285 Coopers. No third row.

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OME Mediums 851/860, Rear 4x4 labs bumper, Bump it offroad sliders, and no third row. 315 Coopers. (Also 60-75lbs of S/C junk under the hood)


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OME Mediums 851/860 +1" front Mr. Gasket spacer, Arb winch bar (no winch), Rear 4x4 labs bumper, Bump it offroad sliders, and no third row. 315 Coopers. (Also 60-75lbs of S/C junk under the hood)

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That is a very good comparison. thank you.
 

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