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It sounds like there may be some p/n differences for the FJ62 version of 3FE: https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/722244-3fe-tune-up-question.html#post8427369
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It sounds like there may be some p/n differences for the FJ62 version of 3FE: https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/722244-3fe-tune-up-question.html#post8427369
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Another bull's-eye from Jonheld. Thanks for your usual good advice.
I am just curious if I am doing the belts and fan clutch, should I go ahead and replace the water pump while I have the front of the motor stripped down? This seemed like a good place to ask this 3FE question, mostly since jonheld is the go to guy on the 3FE.
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Since everything is out, I would replace it. It wont hurt and probably save you time and headaches in the future...
I know this is an old thread, about an old Cruiser. But I just purchased one the other day (2015). It has a genuine 180,000 Km (111,000 miles) on the clock. The previous owner had been trying to solve a 'lack of power' and idle hunt issue. I think he gave up but only after replacing the entire ignition, MAS, and most vacuum lines. I think this promoted him to sell it for a really good price.
When I took it for a test drive it was severely under-powered (even for a 3F-E). It was idling between 1,000 rpm and 1,600 rpm, and stalled sometimes when taking off.
The first things I did was put a new air filter on, then cleaned the idle air control valve with carb cleaner and a toothbrush. The cleaner cost about $15, and took about 30 mins. After this, the truck ran like brand new.
The next day I cleaned out the throttle body with carb cleaner and a toothbrush, and adjusted the kickback cable. There was a lot of carbon behind the throttle plate.
I think the "3FE TuneUp.pdf" was a good start, but should also include cleaning the idle air control valve, and adjusting the kick-down cable for automatics.
When I took it for a test drive it was severely under-powered (even for a 3F-E). It was idling between 1,000 rpm and 1,600 rpm, and stalled sometimes when taking off.
The first things I did was put a new air filter on, then cleaned the idle air control valve with carb cleaner and a toothbrush. The cleaner cost about $15, and took about 30 mins. After this, the truck ran like brand new.
The next day I cleaned out the throttle body with carb cleaner and a toothbrush, and adjusted the kickback cable. There was a lot of carbon behind the throttle plate.
I think the "3FE TuneUp.pdf" was a good start, but should also include cleaning the idle air control valve, and adjusting the kick-down cable for automatics.
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I could be wrong but I believe reference to the "idle air control valve" is actually the idle speed control valve (FI-67 of the FSM). I haven't gotten around to a mild cleaning on mine simply because the FSM mentions the need to drain engine coolant and I haven't wanted to take that on during any of my short bursts of maintenance activities. It would be good to know if draining the coolant isn't actually required.
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^^^^^^^^
Yes, he's referring to the ISC valve.
Yes, he's referring to the ISC valve.
Hey Jon. Just wanted to say thanks again for posting this up. I noticed during our ridiculously inclement weather this weekend the "turbo kick in feeling" starting at about 2100 RPM. Kind of doggy, even for a 3FE, below that. I'm going to check my EGR valve today after school. Thank you sir.(As I was driving, I remembered reading exactly these symptoms in this post, so I dug it out again.)
Question on old thread: have a 1988 FJ62, desmgged-
What would cause a "turbo like" feeling around 2800 rpm's?
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Item #10 on the PDF.
Thanks for your guess Jonheld but it is DESMOGGED= NO EGR. Hence, why I ask. II fixed it. It had bad carbon and gunk inside throttle body. A can of Carb and injector cleaner sprayed into all vacuum ports, tubes, plugs and valves while running engine, and at temp cleaned it up.
Quicker responce, better idel, smmother operation all around.
$5.00 fix, or using a better non ethanol gas during the last 28 years would have helped prevent this.
Quicker responce, better idel, smmother operation all around.
$5.00 fix, or using a better non ethanol gas during the last 28 years would have helped prevent this.
Thank you for the link to the parts list!!!!
This was great, thank you!
Best time and money spent so far on my 3FE was for a desmog. It absolutely feels like a different truck. I'm not going to say it's any faster, which is just silly to say about any 80
Hi... how did you desmog it to improve performance? No one is very familiar with a 3FE engine here in the Philippines so I might have to DIY it... do you have a link where I can take as reference for desmogging, or did you just follow the link @johnheld sent?
I would replace WP, thermostat, all the smaller coolant hoses connected to the WP, I believe there are 3 of them while you are in there. Ask me how i know....
Previous Post:
"Only after you've done all this, cleaned the throttle body, had the injectors cleaned and balanced, had the cooling system serviced, and replaced the pre-filter in the fuel tank along with the in line fuel filter are you allowed to complain about lack of power."
-- Jon Held
**Hhhaha!!! That's pretty funny!
Owning a '91 since the beginning of this year, the P.O. stated he had already performed a tune-up.
In fact he said, "Don't perform a tune-up, I already did." However,... "I" do not know exactly what he did.
So,....
Looks like I may be testing, inspecting and maybe purchasing a few new (preferably OEM) parts, while performing some redundant procedures just to validate that "I KNOW" what has been performed on the truck. (189,000 miles)
A few other things need servicing anyway:
- The bottom of the frame is splattered, sprayed, smeared, coated ('whatever') in oil
- Front Axle needs re-servicing
- weak Hood Struts nearly took my freakin' head off - been using a Hood prop-rod; (changing that soon)
note: Working on my '81 40_series as well, (behind the scenes)
"Only after you've done all this, cleaned the throttle body, had the injectors cleaned and balanced, had the cooling system serviced, and replaced the pre-filter in the fuel tank along with the in line fuel filter are you allowed to complain about lack of power."
-- Jon Held
**Hhhaha!!! That's pretty funny!
Owning a '91 since the beginning of this year, the P.O. stated he had already performed a tune-up.
In fact he said, "Don't perform a tune-up, I already did." However,... "I" do not know exactly what he did.
So,....
Looks like I may be testing, inspecting and maybe purchasing a few new (preferably OEM) parts, while performing some redundant procedures just to validate that "I KNOW" what has been performed on the truck. (189,000 miles)
A few other things need servicing anyway:
- The bottom of the frame is splattered, sprayed, smeared, coated ('whatever') in oil
- Front Axle needs re-servicing
- weak Hood Struts nearly took my freakin' head off - been using a Hood prop-rod; (changing that soon)
note: Working on my '81 40_series as well, (behind the scenes)
Throttle body cleaning gave me the most improvement."Only after you've done all this, cleaned the throttle body, had the injectors cleaned and balanced, had the cooling system serviced, and replaced the pre-filter in the fuel tank along with the in line fuel filter are you allowed to complain about lack of power."
Ha ha. Good stuff. Thank you sir.
Anyone have any leads on 3FE EGR valve assembies?
