What do you think a rust free and well maintained 100 will be worth in 10 years? I contemplated selling one of mine but I’ve been having doubts here lately.
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Even though I like the 100 series, I really don’t see it as a “collectible”, although I don’t see any leaving my driveway other than being “totaled”.
Then again, what do I know, in retrospect, I’ve sold these vehicles “at the wrong time”:
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS Pace Car
1969 Chevrolet Camaro (base 327 2bbl)
1978 Pontiac Trans Am (W72 WS6)
1989 Pontiac Turbo Trans Am (Pace Car)
1994 Toyota Land Cruiser
Then again, what do I know, in retrospect, I’ve sold these vehicles “at the wrong time”:
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS Pace Car
1969 Chevrolet Camaro (base 327 2bbl)
1978 Pontiac Trans Am (W72 WS6)
1989 Pontiac Turbo Trans Am (Pace Car)
1994 Toyota Land Cruiser
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$350?
It depends on a lot of factors:
1) Price of gas
2)if internal combustion cars are banned.
3) inflation, In Zimbabwe 3 eggs would cost you 100 Trillion near the end of their currency
4) Self driving cars, who would want to drive, or even banning non self driving cars
5) alternative investments.
6) Now is a good time to sell used cars, you would probably make a profit.
Ya pays your money and ya takes your chances.
1) Price of gas
2)if internal combustion cars are banned.
3) inflation, In Zimbabwe 3 eggs would cost you 100 Trillion near the end of their currency
4) Self driving cars, who would want to drive, or even banning non self driving cars
5) alternative investments.
6) Now is a good time to sell used cars, you would probably make a profit.
Ya pays your money and ya takes your chances.
Value has always been in the eye of the beholder. Currently my 80 series is worth about six pennies to me because it is at the mechanics getting a spa treatment. After it is refreshed a little more than I have already done, it will be worth $23K minimum. My 100 series is a really nice ride with a lot of amenities the 80 does not have so I think it will be worth about four pennies in the future. A lot of electronics and a lot of age do not equate to great resale value in my mind. I hope I am wrong because I will probably still have both of them in ten years.
hoser
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Value will go up in 10 years. But you'll have spent money on maintenance, insurance, registration etc. And the value won't grow 10% per year... like the S&P 500 average over the last ~100 years.
I sold my 100 series for $7k CAD (50%) more than bought it for 11 years earlier, with 125,000km added (also added some nice steel/winch, etc). I probably could have asked more, given the lineup of people who wanted it. I would suspect that a 100 series will continue to go up in value if it's well maintained. The cheapest 100 I've seen locally was $3,000 CAD, in running, but beat condition. Recently, I've seen people asking as much as $25k CAD for a early 2000's model LX470...not sure if they are actually selling for that much, but the 100's are getting more rare, and inflation is not quitting. I don't know if it will ever be a "collector vehicle", but I probably would have said the same about an 80's series 15 years ago. Long story short, I'd bet it will at least keep up with inflation, and give you years of fun driving.
I love cars and collecting what I can, but as a financial investment cars are dumb - even the "really valuable" ones that skyrocket in value. They rarely keep pace with basic passive investments.
In the stock market, you generally can double your money every 7 years. Maybe every 10 during a recession or closer to every 3-5 with a bull market like we're still in now. An "appreciating" used car won't even be close to that. You'll be lucky to beat inflation by the time you count upkeep and registration on a rarely driven car.
Financially speaking. Sell it. Now's a great time. Put that money in an S&P index or VTSAX and check back in 5 years if you care about the $$ or go buy something else you'll get enjoyment from.
In the stock market, you generally can double your money every 7 years. Maybe every 10 during a recession or closer to every 3-5 with a bull market like we're still in now. An "appreciating" used car won't even be close to that. You'll be lucky to beat inflation by the time you count upkeep and registration on a rarely driven car.
Financially speaking. Sell it. Now's a great time. Put that money in an S&P index or VTSAX and check back in 5 years if you care about the $$ or go buy something else you'll get enjoyment from.
Guys, OP didn't ask us for financial advise.
Point I'm making is I agree, speculating in vehicles unless it's your job is pretty dumb... But plenty of vehicles have easily creamed the stock market during many portions of these time frames your discussing.
OP, they are going up, it's pretty obvious. Go look at the charts at bring a trailer. No need for a thread.
Tell that to anyone that owned air cooled Porsches from 2010-2014. .. Or hell, any fairly clean e36 M3 over the past 12 months... Or a "rare" (really just desirable) e46 M3 over the same time period with a MT.
Point I'm making is I agree, speculating in vehicles unless it's your job is pretty dumb... But plenty of vehicles have easily creamed the stock market during many portions of these time frames your discussing.
OP, they are going up, it's pretty obvious. Go look at the charts at bring a trailer. No need for a thread.
hoser
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@Roosevelt T Well, the last 2 years have been quite unusual for vehicle values. But I'll take your example of the E46 manual M3 since I used to have one. Figures taken from here..... which generally are vehicles above average condition.
E46 M3 Manual
11/1/19 = average $25,974
11/2/21 = average $31,707
Gain over 2 years = 22%
22% vs 45%
E46 M3 Manual
11/1/19 = average $25,974
11/2/21 = average $31,707
Gain over 2 years = 22%
22% vs 45%
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Exiled
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If any of you are betting heavily on self-driving cars and government bans of internal combustion engines and have rust-free, low mile UZJ100s that you're thinking of selling, please DM me. I will take them off your hands! 
My long term prediction is that the 100 will be the forgotten middle child. Right now they have a higher value than 3 years ago mostly due to the covid factor. In 15 years, people will want an 80 for off road or a 200 for on and off road. I'd guess that it's going to stay a relevant player in the game, it just won't see the gains that the 80 or 200 will.
As for when to sell, right now is a great time. With gas prices still going up and hybrid technology improving, 100's going up drastically won't be happening anytime soon. Just my $.02.
As far as investments go, the market is hard to beat right now. What I've averaged over the last 2 years is unheard of and definitely not sustainable, but I'll take it. Now if I can just average 11% over the next 12 years....
As for when to sell, right now is a great time. With gas prices still going up and hybrid technology improving, 100's going up drastically won't be happening anytime soon. Just my $.02.
As far as investments go, the market is hard to beat right now. What I've averaged over the last 2 years is unheard of and definitely not sustainable, but I'll take it. Now if I can just average 11% over the next 12 years....
BullElk
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This almost exact scenario has been going on here on MUD since I got on here amd never have I understood it. Plenty of times have folks try to sell their Hundys with…. I have put $23k of mods into it and now selling for $11,500. How does that happen to the second person I’ll never know.
I think it depends on individual future vs. current needs and whether the 100 series can continue to maintain a cult-like following. Granted that automobiles are usually a poor long-term investment. Will we have a group of people who will want to off-road in an 80, 100, or 200 series in 10 to 15 years like we have today?
Often I look at junkyards presence to determine if a given make and model are on the way out vs. being snatched up by a dedicated owner community or did the vehicle just disappeared from use.
Today I see a number (too many to count on a screen) of Toyota Sequoias in the junkyards within 500 miles from my zip code. There are zero Land Cruisers, LX470s, and LX450s. Even though it was a good seller, it looks like the Sequoia will disappear from the scene and be one of those quickly forgotten models.
Often I look at junkyards presence to determine if a given make and model are on the way out vs. being snatched up by a dedicated owner community or did the vehicle just disappeared from use.
Today I see a number (too many to count on a screen) of Toyota Sequoias in the junkyards within 500 miles from my zip code. There are zero Land Cruisers, LX470s, and LX450s. Even though it was a good seller, it looks like the Sequoia will disappear from the scene and be one of those quickly forgotten models.
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My decision to start modifying mine coincided with my decision to keep it another 10+ years and expect to get little to no money out of it. If someone wants to buy it in 10 years with over 500k on it for anything other than a high schooler to beat up or some farm rig or whatever I'd be surprised, but not basing any of my financial decisions on that.
Regardless of the fact that, again, OP did not ask us for financial advise, and I didnt know we had so many CFP's here (I KID GUYS, I KID)....
That includes many less desirable vehicles, and high mileage examples, etc. There's zero doubt in my mind the value of a lower mileage desirable color e36 M3 has gone up more than the stock market over the past yr... easily. Cleanish cars with 100-130k are going for mid 20's all of a sudden. The market for manual LSB, EB, PY, etc color e46 M3's in good condition is incredibly strong right now as well.
My overall point is this - automobiles are just an asset class - and there are better times than others to be in certain asset classes. OP isnt asking about building his retirement or maximizing returns over certain periods of time - thats a different discussion, and much more complex than just quoting some index returns. Stocks do not perform incredibly well (although they do ok) in inflationary environments for many reasons, but a simple one is the DCF's arent nearly as attractive. Hard assets (normally) perform much better. This is a complex discussion that we wouldnt do justice to by going back and forth on the 100 series technical forum, in my opinion.
hoser
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It's much more interesting to talk about opportunity cost than "what do you think the value of my 100 will be in 10 years?" If that is all that was wanted, a simple poll would've sufficed. He has more than one, 100 series and doesn't seem to need it. So the discussion is relevant.
You said a lot of words but you never even answered his question.
You said a lot of words but you never even answered his question.
