Watch this video at about 4:40 you can see the damage.
YouTube - Jamieson 2008 (Denva rolls his FJ40)
Wasn't that much. A new windscreen frame, new rear springs & an LED tail light. Plus a few new dents in the door.
Flop or Rollover angle, how far can I go?
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Watch this video at about 4:40 you can see the damage.
YouTube - Jamieson 2008 (Denva rolls his FJ40)
Wasn't that much. A new windscreen frame, new rear springs & an LED tail light. Plus a few new dents in the door.
What was all the smoke? Why didn't he just crawl up that incline?
Most of the smoke was caused by the transfer case tearing in half, but the jury is still out on what the smoke coming out the snorkle was caused by. The 2f hasn't been touched since & still runs strong.
Once again the camera doesn't do the slope justice it is bloody steep & very slippery as well so crawling isn't an option. He definately could have done things better but his style is pretty much full noise all the way. Does make for some seriously entertaining wheeling at times.
Once again the camera doesn't do the slope justice it is bloody steep & very slippery as well so crawling isn't an option. He definately could have done things better but his style is pretty much full noise all the way. Does make for some seriously entertaining wheeling at times.
You see the smoke coming out of the snorkel? Engine was running backward? Brake not working?
I've had smoke come out my snorkel with the engine turning backwards down a sand dune.. Missed reverse, got second, but atleast I still had some engine braking..
I've had my Pig about as close as you can get to a flop and not...
I had plenty of witnesses, it was even mentioned in the TT article about the first Pigrun on the 'Con, so it had to be in 2000. Alas, no pics.
It was just below Little Sluice, I was in 1 low, going my slowest as the DS front climbed a little ledge, I kept waiting for it to come down but it didn't...my roofrack was heavily laden, as I had 2 daughters with me. I bicycled it on 2 wheels, stunt-driver fashion for about 2 piglengths. But, lemme tell you, when all you can see out the DS window is sky, and all you can see out the PS window (looking past daughter's ashen face) is granite slab, you're not looking at the tilt-o-meter to see if you're in trouble. At that degree of pucker, one's basic instincts take over, at least mine did. I steered in the direction of the roll (much as one steers into the direction of a spin) and blipped the throttle...settled me down on all fours.
Lessons learned:
1) Stuff on the roofrack makes a huge difference. I don't use mine on the Rubicon no more.
B) Tilt-meters are of waste of dash space.
III) Go slow.
I had plenty of witnesses, it was even mentioned in the TT article about the first Pigrun on the 'Con, so it had to be in 2000. Alas, no pics.
It was just below Little Sluice, I was in 1 low, going my slowest as the DS front climbed a little ledge, I kept waiting for it to come down but it didn't...my roofrack was heavily laden, as I had 2 daughters with me. I bicycled it on 2 wheels, stunt-driver fashion for about 2 piglengths. But, lemme tell you, when all you can see out the DS window is sky, and all you can see out the PS window (looking past daughter's ashen face) is granite slab, you're not looking at the tilt-o-meter to see if you're in trouble. At that degree of pucker, one's basic instincts take over, at least mine did. I steered in the direction of the roll (much as one steers into the direction of a spin) and blipped the throttle...settled me down on all fours.
Lessons learned:
1) Stuff on the roofrack makes a huge difference. I don't use mine on the Rubicon no more.
B) Tilt-meters are of waste of dash space.
III) Go slow.
.. 35.7 degrees. 
I'v been at 37 before according to the tilt meter. It is a spinxter factor though. If you are that off camber and can, just go slow. I find myself looking at the tilt meter when I am off camber just for my angle reference. And as others have said, I don't think I would look at the meter at the point of roll over. I would be looking for flying debris and dog...
Here's one to laugh at. found this gem on youtube. he flops around the middle of the video
TOYOTA Land Cruiser FJ-40 (volcada).wmv - YouTube
TOYOTA Land Cruiser FJ-40 (volcada).wmv - YouTube
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This one is my favorite: Toyota Land Cruiser, roll over, oops - YouTube
I know I am SOA with 37s and with the hardtop on I have seen almost 45%. I thought I was going to tip but my friend who I trust was spotting me and told me to keep coming. A few seconds later my tire dropped back down and all was right.
I had a stock '78 FJ40 to 30 degrees on my inclinometer and was plenty puckered. Years ago, I read 40 was about the max. I suspect I'll never get there.
Obviously, a dynamic slide into a fixed object is much more likely to roll something than just a static angle. You can flip a Suzuki Samurai by sliding it into a curb - on (icy) flat ground.
Obviously, a dynamic slide into a fixed object is much more likely to roll something than just a static angle. You can flip a Suzuki Samurai by sliding it into a curb - on (icy) flat ground.
I laugh every time I see this one, A stuntman could not have done it better. His pocket must have been full of rabbits feet.
Steps for determining rollover angle:
1. Install a Lev-O-Gauge
2. Have passenger monitor gauge as you drive on a sidehill section of trail.
3. Begin turning uphill.
4. Roll over.
5. Based on your passenger's gauge reading, mark the Lev-O-Gauge with a felt tip pen.
6. In the future, do not exceed this mark.
7. For continued accuracy, repeat this procedure each time weight is added or subtracted from your vehicle or the ride height is altered in any way. Bonus points for using the same passenger.
1. Install a Lev-O-Gauge
2. Have passenger monitor gauge as you drive on a sidehill section of trail.
3. Begin turning uphill.
4. Roll over.
5. Based on your passenger's gauge reading, mark the Lev-O-Gauge with a felt tip pen.
6. In the future, do not exceed this mark.
7. For continued accuracy, repeat this procedure each time weight is added or subtracted from your vehicle or the ride height is altered in any way. Bonus points for using the same passenger.
would volunteer to be the passenger 
I like it but since we all know every measurement has a degree of error, we should repeat 10 times then take the average. That is the only sure way to know when you have gone to far......
I don't think they did anything right in that video
Not this far
I have a schedule 40 cage some PO built which is tough but heavy. Also, I was surprised when my left rear slid into the wash. It was slow motion. I do not think there is a right answer.
I have a schedule 40 cage some PO built which is tough but heavy. Also, I was surprised when my left rear slid into the wash. It was slow motion. I do not think there is a right answer.
