FJ40Z's '97 FZJ80

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OK, so I'll ask you guys. Which was more headache, doing Rice's motor swap (with all of the assembly done on a stand), or doing the HG and associated bits with the engine in the truck?

Well I would have to agree with Stan..... Id rather do a swap! but he can point all the HG repairs to Rice and Steve he wants :D

They both had their challenges but for comforts sake Id almost see the point in yanking the motor to do this work. Definitely not necessary but just for convenience or eases sake it would be a lot easier working in comfortable standing position over the motor on a stand. Either way that damn harness has to come out ;)
 
OK, so I'll ask you guys. Which was more headache, doing Rice's motor swap (with all of the assembly done on a stand), or doing the HG and associated bits with the engine in the truck?

First is to differentiate between "headache" and "man hours". Total hours involved in the bottom-up build was higher than the HG alone, but most of the hours are relaxed, at your own pace, everything is easy-to-reach hours. The "headache" of the HG job is all the time you spend sitting on a fender and working over the top of the motor. The headache in the motor swap is all the time you spend UNDER the rig getting at the bellhousing, torque convertor, exhaust, and motor mounts. Either way you have to contend with the MFSOBWL (Mother &^%$#@& son of a *&#%$ wiring loom). FYI, the loom on the 93/94's is much nicer than the loom on the 95+.

What has always bugged me about HG jobs is not being able to deck the block when it's in the rig. But then, if you pull the engine you still can't deck it with the bottom end installed, so now you're in it for a complete rebuild. That's not all bad because now a lot of other PM can happen .... rear main seal, fresh rings and bearings, and can I please suggest ALWAYS keep the crank, oil pump, and power steering gears matched :bang:. There are plenty folks who will say the HG will hold just fine without decking the block, but I like a fresh milled deck.

If I had to pull the engine to rebuild it I would have felt a lot of pressure to hurry .... having a second motor on the stand, building at leisure, and then doing the swap in one weekend; painful, but worth it!

Rice
 
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If I had to pull the engine to rebuild it I would have felt a lot of pressure to hurry .... having a second motor on the stand, building at leisure, and then doing the swap in one weekend; painful, but worth it!

Rice

I think this is the key right here. These motors are getting long in the tooth in most cases and if you are not already planning on a motor refresh or swap down the road you are doing yourself a disservice. I think that @Rice is right on the mark with getting a second motor and working at your own pace.

I think availability of both 3FE and 1FZ motors for sale will remain strong as some sell the motor as it comes out for a rebuilt motor and other from swaps. Finding a good one is always part of the game as Rice can attest.
 
Ok, @GLTHFJ60 now that you and @Rice have had your fun can I please change the name of my thread to something somewhat normal? :grinpimp::hillbilly::moon::flipoff2:
 
Ok, @GLTHFJ60 now that you and @Rice have had your fun can I please change the name of my thread to something somewhat normal? :grinpimp::hillbilly::moon::flipoff2:

... Like "Stephen gives good head"?
 
Ok, @GLTHFJ60 now that you and @Rice have had your fun can I please change the name of my thread to something somewhat normal? :grinpimp::hillbilly::moon::flipoff2:

What do you want me to change it to?
 
How about something nice and simple like - FJ40Z '97 80 thread

Booo. You can take the innuendo out of the TIT-le, but not out of the thread!


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its majik...like a mood ring
 
So my dash lights had been flickering for a while, then just before the head gasket work they went out totally. With the head gasket looming I wasn't too worried about it but now that's out of the way I was able to track down the problem this morning. A faulty trailer plug had shorted and ended up frying the rheostat. Found an 80 in a junkyard near work and pulled the rheostat from it at lunch. Only charged me $4 for the part and had it all back working before noon. Here's the old rheostat

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So my dash lights had been flickering for a while, then just before the head gasket work they went out totally. With the head gasket looming I wasn't too worried about it but now that's out of the way I was able to track down the problem this morning. A faulty trailer plug had shorted and ended up frying the rheostat. Found an 80 in a junkyard near work and pulled the rheostat from it at lunch. Only charged me $4 for the part and had it all back working before noon. Here's the old rheostat

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Parts 80 close to work??? You keeping that a secret? :hillbilly:
 
Parts 80 close to work??? You keeping that a secret? :hillbilly:


LOL no just found it this morning and I think the rheostat was the last part worth having on it. That thing was rough and scavenged clean.
 
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