FJ ROCKS ARIZONA (FJ Cruiser Team Run) Saturday, June 10th

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clarkrw3 said:
Yes, it was nice meeting you msahr, wasn't sure if I had ever seen you before.

Thanks! You too! :beer:
 
Give me the IP address of your router, I'll fix it for ya... :D
 
Congrats on the great turnout. I've seen the FJCs work well, it just seems the computer is a bit slow sometimes in figuring out an obstacle.

I saw some pictures of the run posted over at the Expeditions forum, including a white (bumpered/snorkeled) LX runnig a German license plate up front. Since it's a Munich plate, and I'm from Bavaria, I'm a bit curious - CSC, or from the 'other' AZ LC club?

Ain't it great stuffing 50 rigs in a wash? It's that 'Easter Jeep Safari' feeling.... but for sure better than sitting in NE and cleaning tansfer case gears...
 
msahr said:
Give me the IP address of your router, I'll fix it for ya... :D


Naw, the gestapo back in Virginia see all. I can surf MUD, but anything to do with web-based email, personal backup, streaming media, sex, lingerie;) , gambling, it's all blocked. I'll check it out next time I fire up the home computer.
 
BMAN said:
Who was Brad? Must've missed him. Is he the current Pres?

Maybe I have his name wrong but I believe that's his name, he use to be the pres. Now he is an officer I believe but was constantly complaining about the progress on the radio until he split at lunch.
 
ChaseTruck said:
Congrats on the great turnout. I've seen the FJCs work well, it just seems the computer is a bit slow sometimes in figuring out an obstacle.

I saw some pictures of the run posted over at the Expeditions forum, including a white (bumpered/snorkeled) LX runnig a German license plate up front. Since it's a Munich plate, and I'm from Bavaria, I'm a bit curious - CSC, or from the 'other' AZ LC club?

Ain't it great stuffing 50 rigs in a wash? It's that 'Easter Jeep Safari' feeling.... but for sure better than sitting in NE and cleaning tansfer case gears...

That rig is Mike (lx450...) from here I believe. Does it have PINK panties on the bullbar?
 
crawler#976 said:
Hey guys!

Steve was put in a difficult position. We'd anticipated a much smaller group. I'm sure he had to push folks harder than normal to make time on the trail. I've lead an annual trail ride on the DeSoto the last 4 years - the largest with 19 rigs. That was a real PITA, so I can't even imagine what it was like with well over 30, and many of them novice wheelers to boot.

Hind sight being what it is, we'd had probably set up for three different trails to ease the load if we'd known there were gonna be over 50 rigs involved.


Understood but... had you been on the Desoto trail run you would have been appauled at the attitude he presented. He came off BADLY and there was tons of talk about how displeased many of the new wheelers were with his lack of care and understanding.

I will agree 200% that this was not what he was probably expecting and the fact that you stepped up and offered to lead a secondary run right away was AWSOME and I thank you for that, but the simple fact remains that Steve came across as an ass out there.
 
BMAN said:
That rig is Mike (lx450...) from here I believe. Does it have PINK panties on the bullbar?

Yup, it did. I didn't mention that because a) I'm not that familiar with the lingo, and b) at CruiseMoab, the pink panties were 'mobile' :) and appeared to be moving to different vehicles, seemingly under their own power...:) . So in typical German fashion, I thought the license plate was a 'permanent' identifier for the truck...
 
I couldn't remember if it was Mike's rig or not that had the German plate but I knew for sure that the panties didn't move from his rig all day.
 
clarkrw3 said:
...and was even less impressed with some of the azlca crew (mainly Brad). I don't understand the attitudes on the trail...
Brad was immediately behind me, dark (black/blue??) 80/450. At every stop he bitched about the trail-run organization, how he was experienced, things would be better if he was leading, blah, blah, blah. But only once did he come close to helping, and that was short lived. At his first opportunity he drove off alone and left.

He was soooo experienced, at one stop he got out and left the vehicle. OK, so you're thinking that's normal. A few minutes later I saw his truck lunge at mine just stopping before hitting my rear end. He had left his truck in DRIVE and walked away, when the idle kicked up the truck moved. Quick thinking by his copilot saved the day. Experienced all right, but I'm not sure at what. I'd have to think long & hard about ever being on a run again with Brad - and NOOO way if he was the trail boss. That impatient, bitchy attitude is counter-productive on the trial.

As for Steve, he was wayyy to vested in ensuring everybody got through the obstacles. He had to watch and verify every vehicle go through the first rock garden - and that created a huge slow down that we never recovered from. He just needs to accept others spotting others through the trail, and lead. If the tail needs help, we know how to ask for help on the radio.

I did had fun - I wanted to get out of the house for a few hours and that's exactly what I got. And for the first time ever I stopped and had a brew at the Cleator bar. Clay was even kind enough to share some of his historical knowledge, and the group offered plenty of home-brewing advice.
 
hey lee i cant guarantee the accuracy of my historical knowledge.;)

oh and for the record, i must be the most experienced wheeler out there, i mean, i did manage to drive in alone and find the first group.:flipoff2: of course it was on a 45% grade with me going up and a dozen rigs comming down:whoops: thankfully the vegetation police werent out for my last minute parking spot.;)

twas a quick ride for me, but i knew that going in. just wish i could have seen some of the other blokes, kevin, rob, branden, cliff to name a few. next time.
 
crawler#976 said:
Hey guys!

Steve was put in a difficult position. We'd anticipated a much smaller group. I'm sure he had to push folks harder than normal to make time on the trail. I've lead an annual trail ride on the DeSoto the last 4 years - the largest with 19 rigs. That was a real PITA, so I can't even imagine what it was like with well over 30, and many of them novice wheelers to boot.

Hind sight being what it is, we'd have set up three different trails to ease the load if we'd known there were gonna be over 50 rigs involved.

Sloyota,
The group on the other FJ forum had nothing but great things to say about your leadership, it was a silid success, and it was my pleasure meeting w/ you and assisting;

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=90129#post90129

CDriver previously said:
Big thanks to Sloyota and the guy leading up the rear(sorry, forgot your name). Both of them took their time with us FJ owners and really made the trip. Had I been with the other trip leader, I think I would have slit my wrists.

BTW, did any of you look up the info on the Luminox watch that Toyota gave out? I had no idea how nice/expensive these things are!
 
BMAN said:
Who was Brad? Must've missed him. Is he the current Pres?

He has been part of AzLCA from the beginning and held the prez and other positions from time to time. Don't what he is these days. Have a look at offroaders5's pics He's the guy talking to me next to the 40 in the 2nd pic.
 
crawler#976 said:
Hey guys!

Steve was put in a difficult position. We'd anticipated a much smaller group. I'm sure he had to push folks harder than normal to make time on the trail. I've lead an annual trail ride on the DeSoto the last 4 years - the largest with 19 rigs. That was a real PITA, so I can't even imagine what it was like with well over 30, and many of them novice wheelers to boot.

Hind sight being what it is, we'd have set up three different trails to ease the load if we'd known there were gonna be over 50 rigs involved.

I agree he was put into a postition that he may not have seen coming. The problem is, he chose to have an attitude about it which was impossible for him to hide, and dwell on the fact that we were going to be out there all day. He was pushing way too much which isn't a good thing when you have some drivers that are not only inexperienced, but in an unfamiliar new vehicle to boot. Instead of choosing to make the best of the situation, he decided to keep pushing...and by the way he acted, you'd think he was physically being killed.

I think the De Soto run could have been broken into 3 groups by itself, and each group given a half hour or even an hour or so before the next group started in. This would have made it easier for those on the trail that were experienced spotters to help the smaller groups. Steve felt he had to be at each obstacle for each vehicle to the point that his vehicle was the one holding up the progress. I know he was just trying to be helpfull, but you have to know when to delegate.
 
for those of us who couldn't join - how about some pics?

listening to bitch posts from 1500 miles away is boring :flipoff2:
 
I've never been on DeSoto - really interested :bounce:
 
Here are some pictures I posted on expeditionportal.com.

I think the problem that day was Steve and a few others forgot this was a newbie run. Some people forget that they had a first day in a 4wd, and needed some help too. I had a blast, as I really enjoy helping and spotting new drivers. If you do it right, and the enjoy themselves, they will be the next group of members in our clubs, and possibly Steve's customers at some point too.......

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Note: Thanks to all who helped spot Steph while I was spotting trucks in the rock wash. She really appreciated the patience and effort. She is a great driver, just not used to the 120"+ wb of the Taco yet.:cheers:
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The last 2 pics in that sequence are the best. Great pics! I might just have to add the last one as my new background at the shop.
 
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