Builds Electric TLC FJ-40 Build (3 Viewers)

[elripster]

Having an EV as a DD is how you save more money to put into your cruiser and wear your off road tires out off road more than on. You are welcome to live in the past but that idea will pass on with those who hold onto it. The sales numbers speak for themselves. As more EV's displace ICE vehicles, the ROI to find petroleum will get longer and the price higher. This will just accelerate the savings of driving electric and thus accelerate adoption, you see how the cycle goes. I have 40, 60, and 80 series cruiser, a 4x4 suburban, and a Bolt EV that paid for itself quite a while back.

Frank

 

[NOSAJ]

There’s no way every car, truck, excavator, bulldozer, semi truck, pressure washer, weedeater, blower, air plane, mower, chainsaw, cement mixer, every single gas or diesel engine will be changed over to electric on the whole planet. How are you going to charge all that stuff?

 

[flee]

There’s no way every car, truck, excavator, bulldozer, semi truck, pressure washer, weedeater, blower, air plane, mower, chainsaw, cement mixer, every single gas or diesel engine will be changed over to electric on the whole planet. How are you going to charge all that stuff?

I'll take the bait:
'There is no way that expensive and delicate ICE is going to replace every horse and ox (and elephant in Asia) on the whole planet.
I mean, they'd have to drill oil wells, dig mines and build steel smelting plants to make all that happen.'
It happens when it is either cheaper or a similar cost but better...

 

[John Young]

We have an rj77. It's a wonderful Land cruiser. But but its engine is a 22R and really problematic. We've actually replaced it once. Just underpowered. Our idea is to convert it to electric using the existing transmission just for going around town. 50 or even 75 mi in range would be fine for kind of a daily use case.

 

[elripster]

There’s no way every car, truck, excavator, bulldozer, semi truck, pressure washer, weedeater, blower, air plane, mower, chainsaw, cement mixer, every single gas or diesel engine will be changed over to electric on the whole planet. How are you going to charge all that stuff?

It doesn't happen at the flip of a switch anymore than cars displaced horses. As the existing hardware ages, people look for replacements that serve their needs at lower costs. How do you think all of those things you mentioned got into people's hands in the first place? They had displace the status quo of that time. Going electric gives the power (pun!) back to the individual to supply your own "fuel" and thus gain control over a key cost. As fossil fuels increase in cost, electric options become more attractive. The displacement will take probably 20 years and there will always be a few stragglers but that displacement is in full swing.

Companies like this are leading the tip of the spear. Those of us who early adopt help move the technology forward to reduce costs, etc... It's a long road from an idea to a kit you can drop into a vehicle to replace its engine for about what that engine would be to replace. Every milestone leads to the next and you really can't skip them. What you see here is one key milestone in achieving volume production which brings the costs down.

For you skeptics, maybe sit down and calculate your fuel, tire, and maintenance if you are DDing your off road rig. Then see what an EV ecoturdbox would be and how long it would take to make back the money. My junks last sooooooooo much longer having the bulk of the family's miles in the Bolt vs. the trucks. Each year I don't need tires on the cruiser is $2k, for example. I have solar so no electric bill which helps the payback equation a lot. That won't work for everyone.

Frank

 

[jayp2]

people readily adopt good ideas

the fact that so many people arent interested in ev's says a lot

furthermore if it were a great solution it wouldnt require taxpayer subsidies and mandates

the 40 in question is an amusing project

 

[Chuckha62]

Had EVs been developed alongside the ICE, I have no doubt we would be predominantly an EV motivated world by now. As it is, EV cradle to grave efficiency already surpasses ICE and will continue to improve as the recycle capability evolves and improves.

When I got my 45LV, I was preparing for it to need an engine replacement. Had that been necessary I was seriously considering skipping over the LS swap and going directly to an EV platform. An FJ45LVEV, I like the sound of that. Alas, the ol' F-135 runs like a champ though. An old, slow champ, but a champ nonetheless.

I'm diggin these swaps! Keep them coming!

 

[charliemeyer007]

Edison's iron nickel battery powered some early horseless carriages.

Development is best left in the hands of free people. Being mandated by the central committee seldom works well.
How many people defect to commusium vs those that loose their life trying to get out.

As an earthling I'm not pro-pollution but I ran the numbers once and a single 52 strike has a larger carbon foot print than my life.

 

[rlong]

The robots will rule the world.. (and they don’t like to pump gas!).

 

[NOSAJ]

Hear me out At least look at the Omega car of Casey Putsch.

104 miles per gallon

Used Volkswagen diesel engine with 120k on it when he built the car.

0-60 in under 5 seconds

It beat the Dodge viper and matched the Tesla and the corvette.

He also says he could probably mass produce them for $20,000. I’d buy it for 3x that compared to the junk made today. I’ve had less problems with any of my old stuff than my new stuff. I own 3 personal vehicles and a fleet of work trucks. The newest is a 2015 Isuzu over cab. Only vehicle I’ve ever bought brand new. Has a gm engine and transmission. I’ve had to rebuild the transmission 2x with less than 136,000 on it.

I run my stuff until it’s dust then I sweep up the dust and keep driving. Why because everything is paid for and cheaper that buying a $100,000 ford f250 that is probably going to break. Even Ford has been putting on a defective fuel pump for years that you have to get replaced for like $3500 or completely grenades the whole fuel system and cost $10,000-$12 if it does grenade.

Maybe just maybe the Omega car has less of a carbon footprint than the EVs and the minerals required to make the batteries. If the research is done on really what all the mining and charging is causing to the environment we might be shocked. Clean energy? Nothing is clean and made in a vacuum. All the charging right now can’t be all solar and clean. Has to come from coal, nuclear etc. The earth gets damaged even making the solar panels. If you care about that stuff.

Interesting discussion, but I’d buy a car that gets 104 miles per gallon for $20,000!!! that could get me from the east coast to the west coast on 1 tank of gas!! No charging!! Especially no charging for 20-40 minutes. My buddy in his Rivian couldn’t make it from Nashville to Destin Florida on one charge. He had to stop for 40 minutes plus to wait on a charger and charge. No thanks Give me a fuel burner and I’ll fill up in 10 minutes and keep going.

If you’re into cars the Tucker podcast with Casey is pretty fascinating. Ingenuity and engineering at its finest. Give it a listen.

 

[jayp2]

Had EVs been developed alongside the ICE, I have no doubt we would be predominantly an EV motivated world by now. As it is, EV cradle to grave efficiency already surpasses ICE and will continue to improve as the recycle capability evolves and improves.

When I got my 45LV, I was preparing for it to need an engine replacement. Had that been necessary I was seriously considering skipping over the LS swap and going directly to an EV platform. An FJ45LVEV, I like the sound of that. Alas, the ol' F-135 runs like a champ though. An old, slow champ, but a champ nonetheless.

I'm diggin these swaps! Keep them coming!

not even close

why?

because of the same issue ev's struggle with today now......charging/storing power

looking at the historical examples.....the only electric examples we see are diesel electrics going back 100 years......trains, submarines.....the list goes on.......

this doesnt even take into consideration the issue of safety in any significant sized battery 30+ years or more

 

[TremecElectricGT]

Cruising in 5th Gear at 2500 RPM at 84 MPH with a lot more pedal. Clearly has more upper end That should be reserved for a sports car but that the power making it smooth around town or for that matter for the whole day in Joshua Tree! Oh yeah..... UP next....getting dirty! Pulling other cars out of sand in 4H 2nd gear and other usefull 4x4 stuff that is a no brainer for the 410Ft lbs of torque with all kinds of gear ratio options. Likely a good farm tractor too!

 

[charliemeyer007]

H2-N-4L is there no H4?

 

[RoaringFork]

H2-N-4L is there no H4?

Push button H4. Zoom in directly above the trans shift knob.

 

[esoniat]

EVs I guess have their place…just not in my garage. They are like most cars today…boring. They all look the same no soul no style. The cruisers above look good but make me yawn. My buddy has a Tesla plaid, fast sure but no soul. Nothing out there is worth the $ they are asking and it is a throw away vehicle. I saw a 100 year old rolls Royce the other day at the gas station. 100 years old and still going. I don’t see EVs making it that long. How long the batteries going to last and how much to replace, not me. Look at the style and craftsmanship of the Rolls. Royce. Tucker had a pretty fascinating podcast with Casey Putsch a few weeks ago about the auto industry. I’d rather have something I can work on and simple with no computer that’s not going to get thrown away. I’ll go back to playing with my diesels and carburetors now.

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[elripster]

Hear me out At least look at the Omega car of Casey Putsch.

104 miles per gallon

Used Volkswagen diesel engine with 120k on it when he built the car.

0-60 in under 5 seconds

It beat the Dodge viper and matched the Tesla and the corvette.

He also says he could probably mass produce them for $20,000. I’d buy it for 3x that compared to the junk made today. I’ve had less problems with any of my old stuff than my new stuff. I own 3 personal vehicles and a fleet of work trucks. The newest is a 2015 Isuzu over cab. Only vehicle I’ve ever bought brand new. Has a gm engine and transmission. I’ve had to rebuild the transmission 2x with less than 136,000 on it.

I run my stuff until it’s dust then I sweep up the dust and keep driving. Why because everything is paid for and cheaper that buying a $100,000 ford f250 that is probably going to break. Even Ford has been putting on a defective fuel pump for years that you have to get replaced for like $3500 or completely grenades the whole fuel system and cost $10,000-$12 if it does grenade.

Maybe just maybe the Omega car has less of a carbon footprint than the EVs and the minerals required to make the batteries. If the research is done on really what all the mining and charging is causing to the environment we might be shocked. Clean energy? Nothing is clean and made in a vacuum. All the charging right now can’t be all solar and clean. Has to come from coal, nuclear etc. The earth gets damaged even making the solar panels. If you care about that stuff.

Interesting discussion, but I’d buy a car that gets 104 miles per gallon for $20,000!!! that could get me from the east coast to the west coast on 1 tank of gas!! No charging!! Especially no charging for 20-40 minutes. My buddy in his Rivian couldn’t make it from Nashville to Destin Florida on one charge. He had to stop for 40 minutes plus to wait on a charger and charge. No thanks Give me a fuel burner and I’ll fill up in 10 minutes and keep going.

If you’re into cars the Tucker podcast with Casey is pretty fascinating. Ingenuity and engineering at its finest. Give it a listen.

This is his just marketing fluff. The Omega car will never, for example, pass FMVSS crash related requirements as it sits. To do that will add a ton (literally) of weight and all of its numbers will fall accordingly. It also won't pass passenger car emissions with out after treatments, etc... And 20k? He has no idea what it takes to mass produce a car and make money. It took Tesla 8 years to get into the black and they had a premium product with associated margin. Low cost passenger cars have very little margin so require huge (hundreds of thousands of units / year) volumes to even have a chance at making money. What you are reading is really just investor bait.

Here, the kit is a modification so all that is required is the vehicle's FMVSS not be reduce or compliance eliminated. Also, the installer is no the hook for FMVSS, not Electric GT. Building a car en masse, the OEM is on the hook for all of the FMVSS requirements. I could on, but you get the drift...

Frank

 

[TremecElectricGT]

H2-N-4L is there no H4?

 

[jayp2]

Hear me out At least look at the Omega car of Casey Putsch.

104 miles per gallon

Used Volkswagen diesel engine with 120k on it when he built the car.

0-60 in under 5 seconds

It beat the Dodge viper and matched the Tesla and the corvette.

He also says he could probably mass produce them for $20,000. I’d buy it for 3x that compared to the junk made today. I’ve had less problems with any of my old stuff than my new stuff. I own 3 personal vehicles and a fleet of work trucks. The newest is a 2015 Isuzu over cab. Only vehicle I’ve ever bought brand new. Has a gm engine and transmission. I’ve had to rebuild the transmission 2x with less than 136,000 on it.

I run my stuff until it’s dust then I sweep up the dust and keep driving. Why because everything is paid for and cheaper that buying a $100,000 ford f250 that is probably going to break. Even Ford has been putting on a defective fuel pump for years that you have to get replaced for like $3500 or completely grenades the whole fuel system and cost $10,000-$12 if it does grenade.

Maybe just maybe the Omega car has less of a carbon footprint than the EVs and the minerals required to make the batteries. If the research is done on really what all the mining and charging is causing to the environment we might be shocked. Clean energy? Nothing is clean and made in a vacuum. All the charging right now can’t be all solar and clean. Has to come from coal, nuclear etc. The earth gets damaged even making the solar panels. If you care about that stuff.

Interesting discussion, but I’d buy a car that gets 104 miles per gallon for $20,000!!! that could get me from the east coast to the west coast on 1 tank of gas!! No charging!! Especially no charging for 20-40 minutes. My buddy in his Rivian couldn’t make it from Nashville to Destin Florida on one charge. He had to stop for 40 minutes plus to wait on a charger and charge. No thanks Give me a fuel burner and I’ll fill up 10 minutes and keep going.

If you’re into cars the Tucker podcast with Casey is pretty fascinating. Ingenuity and engineering at its finest. Give it a listen.

i miss vw diesels.....

 

[flee]

i miss vw diesels.....

I have an '02 Jetta diesel wagon with a 6-speed manual.

 

[TremecElectricGT]

40 year old Halogen tech was struggling to be usable in an era of proper LED performance. Quick swap out should eliminate accidental deer hunting issues in CO. The Hella Haolgen fixtures in place help make that simple.