Build Electric TLC FJ-40 Build

[red66toy]

I am excited for solid state batteries to make these swaps even more awesome! More range, less weight. Fingers crossed Toyota does indeed come through with their SS batteries... because that would just make it even more sweet.

 

[Aloha Jen]

That’s a pretty standard cost I’ve seen on a few places, I was kinda curious if there are added costs just to adapt the FJ’s to make them ready. I’ll look at the site though, maybe 49k is all in.

Thanks and keep posting your photos on IG!

It looks like $49k is just the motor and battery packs. There is quite a bit of work to make it all adapt properly, wouldn’t surprise me if they charge another $20-40k to compete an Fj40 with their motor/battery set up.

 

[et3surge]

It looks like $49k is just the motor and battery packs. There is quite a bit of work to make it all adapt properly, wouldn’t surprise me if they charge another $20-40k to compete an Fj40 with their motor/battery set up.

That’s kinda what I’d like to know. I could do this with used Tesla motors and batteries so I’m curious the difference because these guys are lot more refined then I would be.

 

[TremecElectricGT]

What’s the expected investment in this build(s)?

Investment is the right question.... it is common to underestimate a "swap" of any kind let alone an e-swap. Donor, + de-ICE'ing, + any resto mod work, + system + installation... We are aiming to offer a variety of range and power options and also develop as we can mounting solutions....

For now we provide the turnkey systems and offer a few range/pack size options. The 173 is a bit small for these and twin 173's is a bit pointless in our eyes.. We did provide the system for the Downy show but that is boiled below basic in what we would suggest for a day to day.. The 413 with a direct drive to TC is what we are doing in the next couple.... The 40's are looking at about 65-70 kWh packs and system costs currently running $70-100k. Aiming to bring costs down with ramped up production in the coming 2 years. These are complete wires systems including the options and additional components like powers HV steering, HV- AC, HV coolant heaters, VCU, BMS. etc. About the only OEM level system with all new components minus the "donor". The 413 is a 800V system.

Now you can start kicking some math (money, time, things) around that is reality .

This year will be fun as we have the 60, the 40, and a couple client 40's on the deck. Will keep posting as super cool things are coming from behind the curtains in short order!! Appreciate everyones interest and open discussions!

 

[et3surge]

Investment is the right question.... it is common to underestimate a "swap" of any kind let alone an e-swap. Donor, + de-ICE'ing, + any resto mod work, + system + installation... We are aiming to offer a variety of range and power options and also develop as we can mounting solutions....

For now we provide the turnkey systems and offer a few range/pack size options. The 173 is a bit small for these and twin 173's is a bit pointless in our eyes.. We did provide the system for the Downy show but that is boiled below basic in what we would suggest for a day to day.. The 413 with a direct drive to TC is what we are doing in the next couple.... The 40's are looking at about 65-70 kWh packs and system costs currently running $70-100k. Aiming to bring costs down with ramped up production in the coming 2 years. These are complete wires systems including the options and additional components like powers HV steering, HV- AC, HV coolant heaters, VCU, BMS. etc. About the only OEM level system with all new components minus the "donor". The 413 is a 800V system.

Now you can start kicking some math (money, time, things) around that is reality .

This year will be fun as we have the 60, the 40, and a couple client 40's on the deck. Will keep posting as super cool things are coming from behind the curtains in short order!! Appreciate everyones interest and open discussions!

awesome response, this is what I was hoping to gather. I have my Diesel which will never (cross my fingers) be a donor, but I have spotted a few along the way and have considered it. I may contact directly for some guidance, for instance how much can I de-ICE and hand off a clean ready car. Thanks again, I'll keep watching

 

[kerplunk]

Investment is the right question.... it is common to underestimate a "swap" of any kind let alone an e-swap. Donor, + de-ICE'ing, + any resto mod work, + system + installation... We are aiming to offer a variety of range and power options and also develop as we can mounting solutions....

So, not a kit that can be owner swapped with just the necessities for the minimalists out there?

Because mine is still in decent condition, good enough I'm not interested in restro whatever work. And while I wouldn't give up power brakes and hesitant to try manual steering (which was original on mine), I don't have AC, and could live without the heater pretty easy, and would probably be happy enough without a whole list of "systems" I see EV swappers worrying about.

 

[et3surge]

So, not a kit that can be owner swapped with just the necessities for the minimalists out there?

Because mine is still in decent condition, good enough I'm not interested in restro whatever work. And while I wouldn't give up power brakes and hesitant to try manual steering (which was original on mine), I don't have AC, and could live without the heater pretty easy, and would probably be happy enough without a whole list of "systems" I see EV swappers worrying about.

I think I would be on the same boat, I would take the power train and not much else that might be interesting to other EV fans or Resto fans. I could even envision phased mods like get the power train done and slowly change or add nice EV features. I have an HJ45 now which is all stock, I would love to get a simple all stock unit that could take an engine swap and instead go EV.

Following this thread because this is a really nice swap…

 

[TremecElectricGT]

Well the 40 is slow but hoping it back from restoration/Paint etc in the next month. SO why not check out the FJ60 fitment

NEW stuff for the 800V e-AC compressor....

Couple new switches on the dash panel......

Rear disk kit from JT guys! THX.... Adding the Wilwood eBrakes to the rear rotor as well....

Getting a clean up & refresh next....

Things to scratch the head over... H55 5 speed and a clutch in the former 62..... - The Direct drive system in the FJ40 will bypass need from trans......

Lots more coming shortly....

 

[bikersmurf]

Well the 40 is slow but hoping it back from restoration/Paint etc in the next month. SO why not check out the FJ60 fitment

NEW stuff for the 800V e-AC compressor....
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Couple new switches on the dash panel......
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Rear disk kit from JT guys! THX.... Adding the Wilwood eBrakes to the rear rotor as well....
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Getting a clean up & refresh next....
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Things to scratch the head over... H55 5 speed and a clutch in the former 62..... - The Direct drive system in the FJ40 will bypass need from trans......
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Lots more coming shortly....

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I’m sure it’s an in progress thing… but the lower bolt looks loose.

What setup does Willwood use for the e-brake on the rear rotor? I’m looking for a automotive e-brake that would work with a second caliper on the rear rotors.

 

[peesalot]

Electric GT - so how does the fj40 at 65-70kwh & 800V system compare to my 22 model Y - 300 mile dual motor ? I am not one to figure it out and it seems every manuf. uses diff naming so I like that you broke it down to KWH & V but I am having trouble knowing what numbers from the Tesla literature/specs to compare ? help ? Not asking in terms of perf just sheer data .

 

[TremecElectricGT]

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I’m sure it’s an in progress thing… but the lower bolt looks loose.

What setup does Willwood use for the e-brake on the rear rotor? I’m looking for a automotive e-brake that would work with a second caliper on the rear rotors.

Mid project photo.... more photos here:::

Fab a bracket...

Ceramic pads for good measure...

 

[TremecElectricGT]

Speed Hut time... See about some cool new guages to fit the "cluster".

 

[TremecElectricGT]

Lots of out of place odd things in the puzzle image?

New socks and shoes. Going to be making good use of these again soon. Better be good to go for a long while.

A little more TLC

Ceramic in there too.

 

[TremecElectricGT]

Preliminary routing/running of HV lines..... Will clean when sorted....

H55 mating with clutch assmebly.... Next one will be direct drive and save lots of space and weight... But this will be nice to play with considering 406 ft lbs of eelectric torque...... Beware of low gear use

 

[TremecElectricGT]

The TKE (400 or 500 HP Single Speed "transmission") needs a nose reduction for Tcase mating... Hope to see that next year...

 

[peesalot]

The term single speed transmission is confusing, what does the aparatus do ?

 

[TremecElectricGT]

The term single speed transmission is confusing, what does the aparatus do ?

Hmmmm... It is odd. 400 or 500 HP of power coming out of a gearbox? yep. A motor w 18,000 RPM connected to a single speed reduction gear box that fits in the space of a standard size transmission footprint and connects to a T-Case | drive shaft is not normal. But thats what it is.

 

[peesalot]

Got it, my bad, I assumed transmission ment ability to shift.

 

[TremecElectricGT]

Packaging coming along. 8kW Coolant heater will be instrumental part of the cold weather package.

 

[youpers]

Very cool build! I like how you kept the 4 speed and resisted the trend to make it more futuristic and electrified looking. I'm curious how aggressive the hunt for rattles is now without motor noises to hide them. The only critique and its a very small one with no disrespect meant for the quality or execution of the build but making the electronics look like a V8 feels kinda like Tofurky or that soy should taste like chicken in order to be appealing. Soy is good too, and while I happen to prefer chicken, its not that soy isnt good.

Which BTW if this build doesnt have a name yet Im voting Tofurky, it has the right color.