doetsch pre runner 8000 shocks

[Darasick]

Ok, so I might have screwed up. but double check me... I ordered the 8386 which claim 17" compressed length. These would be perfect if it is true. According to their website the lengths are measured from the center of the eye to the stem base. Well there is a rather large bushing below the stem base. In order to achieve the 17" compressed length, you would have to compress the bushing as well. I suspect some back breaking shock compressions from this. I measured 19" from the center of the eye to the start of the thread on the stem. Should I scratch these and order shorter ones or do you think that bushing will not effect the ride?

 

[jynx]

Honestly I can't speak to the actual problem, but I do know that the "bushing" you are referring to is touted as a bump-stop so I would guess that it is compressible to some degree, but will ultimately limit your total up travel. It should be able to be removed without any ill effects as far as I know.

I have these on my wife's Jeep Grand Cherokee and have been happy and I am most likely going to be swapping a set onto the 80 and my pick-up as well.

Tucker

 

[Walking Eagle]

If measured the way they have on their site I see 18" - base of stem not begining of thread is the way it's listed.

As above, that "bushing" is a bumpstop to keep the shock from over compressing. It'll likely compress an inch and give you the 17". Or you could cut it off, but then you'll have to move your stock bumpstops to protect the shock and you'll have to guess at what it's compression is. I'd say you're o.k.

 

[cody c]

The function of that bushing is to protect the shock, should you not have a bump stop in place, it should be compressed under articulation if your setup will infact limit the minimum size to 17" and has no further articulation. If its important to you its possible to trim the bushing. Having driven mine with bumpstops shorter than the shocks I would much much rather prefer having those bushings, even if I limited up travel 1/2"-1"

 

[Darasick]

Perfect, Thanks guys

 

[Rwhat]

Slowsuki, did you find that the Doetsch shocks specs on their website were incorrect on the advertised extended lengths?

 

[slowsuki]

no, the shocks i ordered where the length that the website said they where.

 

[Tapage]

they sold the adapter for the lower shock mount .?

 

[FJ809496TLC]

These would probably be my next set of shocks. OME Ls just were not long enough on a 6" plus lift if the 80s are not armored or loaded.

 

[jynx]

9000 Series?

Has anyone looked at the 9000 series shocks.

Per Website
"We recommend this shock for heavier truck applications or those trucks that may require a boost in spring rate or cornering performance."

• Large 1 3/8" Piston
• Double Wall Construction
• Double Welded Ends
• Double Wiper Seal
• 180 p.s.i. Nitrogen Gas Charged
• Limited Lifetime Warranty

They are Nitrogen charged but have smaller pistons and from the picture appear to have a smaller diameter shaft. From what I infer, the 8000 are a better off-road shock. I have been reading the other threads about the doetsch shocks and was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on these vs. the 8000 series.

Thanks,

Tucker

 

[LUV24BY]

I personally have run Doetsch Tech shocks on my 1994 DX, my 1985 4Runner and now on my 1993 FZJ80. I paid the most for the 80's shocks (roughly $260 for 4 shocks shipped) and I wouldn't want to own or run anything different. I have abused these and been impressed that there's a significant amount of craftsmanship and quality in each set I have had. The rod is ridiculously huge (not mine, the shocks! ) and they really condle the 80 like nothing I have had before. Even with the front Sway Bar off for DD, the shocks keep the roll to a minimum.

The only thing I don't like about them is that I can never remember how to spell their name! LOL

John

 

[Walking Eagle]

They are Nitrogen charged but have smaller pistons and from the picture appear to have a smaller diameter shaft. From what I infer, the 8000 are a better off-road shock. I have been reading the other threads about the doetsch shocks and was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on these vs. the 8000 series.

Thanks,

Tucker

The 9000 is obviously 1000 better than the 8000. (my five year olds logic)

 

[cool breeze]

So who has which shocks on a four inch lift? Would that be the 8386 and same shock for front and rear?
Also which adapter is needed to run these?
thanks

 

[Rwhat]

Josh, heres a link to Ebag333 measurements of the OMEL shocks ect.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/303737-pro-comp-es9000-shock-information-specs.html

The 8350's are the almost dead on to the specs of the OME L's.

EXTENDED COLLAPSED TRAVEL
OME L N73L 15.23 26.26 11.03 Stud Stud
N74L 15.23 26.26 11.03 Stud Eye

DOETSCH 8350 SS 26.50 15.50 11.00 Stud Stud
8350 26.50 15.50 11.00 Stud Eye


Dammit, i have this chart above laid out nice and spaced evenly so you can read it. It keeps bunching up when i post it though. Can anyone fix it.

 

[GW Nugget]

I anyone running the 8385 front/8386 rear combo on a 3" or 4" lift. The pin/pin 16" to 28.5" =12.5" of travel. That is some impressive numbers. Here there chart.

 

[gahi]

I am running the 8385/8386 on a slee 4". Happy with them, though I dont have anything to compare to other then the stock ones.

 

[Darasick]

Don't expect too much out of these. I replaced these with less than 10,000 miles on them and when I did one shock compressed under it's own weight. The bushings are absolute garbage as well. I think these are good to get you out of a bind, but I would save my money for OME, TJM, Ironman, etc.

 

[nukegoat]

Horrible. I have 8385 and 8386s. They suck.

 

[GW Nugget]

Horrible. I have 8385 and 8386s. They suck.

OK
We have on this thread 3 that like the $50 shocks & 2 that don't.
Darasick had failure.
Nukegoat what is it about your experience?
I guess we have to understand these are not $180 adjustable shocks. There 50 bucks.

 

[Darasick]

OK
We have on this thread 3 that like the $50 shocks & 2 that don't.
Darasick had failure.
Nukegoat what is it about your experience?
I guess we have to understand these are not $180 adjustable shocks. There 50 bucks.

I'll expand on my comment a little. I was a fan when I first put them on. I found them to be quite responsive and was impressed as to the ride quality for the price. This diminished over time and a few thousand miles in I was cruising the Interstates like a Cutlass 88 with 5 people and a full tank of gas on board. Wheeling at that point would make a normal person seasick due to the continuous rocking. If you are looking for a long term solution, I would seriously consider other tried and true options.