Delta VS rear bumper sneak peek

[Delta VS]

Estimated weight with duals?

Bumper is about 250, then whatever your tires/wheels weigh. You got skinny 33s or 37x13.5?

 

[80t0ylc]

My guess is that the lights aren't covered nearly as much as it appears in the photo. In the 3/4 angle photo it looks like the tire isn't much past the hatch seam. My rear swingout is the same and the taillight isn't covered, but a photo taken up close from directly behind the truck looks like the lights are entirely covered because of the wide angle nature of most phone photos. I have photos that look the same but the lights aren't blocked.

OK, the distance between my tail lights is 59.5 inches. If you have 35" tires X 2 that's 70" & that's if they're touching. ..... Light modification is going to be a necessity, to carry two 35" spares, IMHO.

Edited for abrasive content - poor choice of words - attitude adjusted

 

[Delta VS]

This was actually just for fun. Fully modular swing outs that can bolt anything up. Big flat planes, lots of accessories... Lights won't be covered when the tire carrier is mounted in the normal position.

RELAX EVER BODY. Nobody is mounting 2 spares. If they are, they don’t need taillights...

 

[80t0ylc]

RELAX EVER BODY. Nobody is mounting 2 spares. If they are, they don’t need taillights...

My post was not for you, it was a mistake. BTW, it was obvious from your pics with out tires mounted that they're adjustable. But, you have to admit, overlanders would love to carry 2 spares, so your original pic with both mounted was going to stir the pot - just a little, maybe...

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[Beej]

Two spares does look cool; especially to us Americans.
Meanwhile, Aussies are just like

 

[Delta VS]

Two spares does look cool; especially to us Americans.
Meanwhile, Aussies are just like

Pfft...overlanders. Can’t have 2 tires if you want 30 gallons of extra fuel, a kitchen, a shower, a fridge, traction products, camper, ???, etc ALL ON YOUR BUMPER

 

[80t0ylc]

Pfft...overlanders. Can’t have 2 tires if you want 30 gallons of extra fuel, a kitchen, a shower, a fridge, traction products, camper, ???, etc ALL ON YOUR BUMPER

Think trailers, so I guess the trailer hitch may be a more important consideration for the experienced overlanders. BTW, what kind of trailer rating will your bumper have?

 

[Delta VS]

BTW, what kind of trailer rating will your bumper have?

Zero. There is nothing about this bumper that is for hooking trailers to. Everything about this bumper is for attaching tow rated receivers to. We have no desire to go through the process of getting things DOT towing rated approved. This bumper is already going to be at the high end of the market, don’t need 10s of thousands of dollars extra added to development costs. Already way past the 30k mark.

 

[Beej]

Zero. There is nothing about this bumper that is for hooking trailers to. Everything about this bumper is for attaching tow rated receivers to. We have no desire to go through the process of getting things DOT towing rated approved. This bumper is already going to be at the high end of the market, don’t need 10s of thousands of dollars extra added to development costs. Already way past the 30k mark.

Unrelated to this particular bumper, cant you just say, "for offroad use only" and then pass liability to the customer? I have lots of stuff that is "for off road use only"

 

[Box Rocket]

OK, the distance between my tail lights is 59.5 inches. If you have 35" tires X 2 that's 70" & that's if they're touching. So do the math yourself and please tell me again about your b.s. photo angles angle. I just looked at my 35" spare on my Kaymar spare swing out that's designed to position the tire not to block the tail light & measured over another 35". Not even close to unblocked lights. Center the tires and they're both blocked. Oh, you could raise them up, but then there goes visibility and ease of mounting a tire on it. Light's modification is going to be a necessity, to carry two 35" spares, IMHO.

I bet you're a blast to hang out with.

How bout I show you actual "BS" photo examples and you can take your math suck it. I made a freakin observation about the photo. Anyone carrying two spares on the back isn't that worried about rear visibility. But what do I know? I'm just "naive" and "ignorant". I'll go back to that and just be happy I'm not a douche.

Close camera angle, taillights looks blocked.

Farther camera angle (more how it is seen in real life) Taillight not blocked nearly as much as it appears in the other photo. I think my tire is set farther out to the side than the Delta one so it looks like it will be less of an issue than mine is.

 

[Delta VS]

Unrelated to this particular bumper, cant you just say, "for offroad use only" and then pass liability to the customer? I have lots of stuff that is "for off road use only"

Sure could. Not going to stop somebody from suing us though. You can tell people whateverthehellyouwant, still going to go bankrupt with liar fees.

 

[80t0ylc]

I bet you're a blast to hang out with.........How bout I show you actual "BS" photo examples and you can take your math suck it. I made a freakin observation about the photo. Anyone carrying two spares on the back isn't that worried about rear visibility. But what do I know? I'm just "naive" and "ignorant". I'll go back to that and just be happy I'm not a douche..........Farther camera angle (more how it is seen in real life) Taillight not blocked nearly as much as it appears in the other photo. I think my tire is set farther out to the side than the Delta one so it looks like it will be less of an issue than mine is.

Edited - not a contributing post.

 

[Box Rocket]

Not really.
You do that.


Thanks for the photos! You've actually hurt your argument. Your right turn signal is 98% blocked. I'd be surprised if you've never been stopped or approached by an officer.

Never been stopped or even questioned about it. This bumper has been on two of my 80s since 2001 and not a single question about the taillight being blocked. But with as naive an ignorant that I am I probably have a dozen tickets I'm just too dumb to know it.

Nothing hurt my argument BTW. The point was that the camera angle/distance distorts what can and cannot be seen. I've proven that as fact.

Please continue sharing your expertise with all of us. We're clearly in the presence of brilliance.

Sorry Dave about the derailing of your thread. I'm done but @80t0ylc is a self proclaimed "experienced overlander" so I'm sure he can give you all the direction you need to build what's needed.

 

[80t0ylc]

Zero. There is nothing about this bumper that is for hooking trailers to. Everything about this bumper is for attaching tow rated receivers to. We have no desire to go through the process of getting things DOT towing rated approved. This bumper is already going to be at the high end of the market, don’t need 10s of thousands of dollars extra added to development costs. Already way past the 30k mark.

I can see that you've thoroughly researched the trailer hitch consideration. It seems like a wise approach plus with @Beej 's off road only suggestion, hopefully you'll avoid the potholes. Thanks for the info!

 

[Kaninja]

I'd be surprised if you've never been stopped or approached by an officer.

Probably to tell him how sweet his rig is.

Sweet setup Rocket!

 

[mudgudgeon]

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I know this is probably of no relevance to you USA guys, but someone mentioned us Aussies be .
The pic above would earn a canary**

Under the Australian design rules for vehicles, tail lights, signal lights have to be unobscured and visible from a 45° angle in any direction.
This is the reason ARB bars have secondary lights in them.


**
(large, canary yellow defect/non-roadworthy sticker applied to the windshield of a defective car by police officer. Cannot legally be removed until the defect is rectified, and re-inspected)

 

[RFB]

Also:

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can you makean allowance to mount spare up higher for us MOAB going to folk that often find ourselves looking straight up whilst spare is digging sand? up higher would be great and then Id have to buy.

 

[mudgudgeon]

Looks like an interesting design. I'm curious to see what you did for latches.


I think you're fit and finish at the bottom of the rear wheel arch flare is a fail

 

[Delta VS]

I think you're fit and finish at the bottom of the rear wheel arch flare is a fail

That is some super helpful, incredibly insightful constructive feedback there...well received

 

[Delta VS]

can you makean allowance to mount spare up higher for us MOAB going to folk that often find ourselves looking straight up whilst spare is digging sand? up higher would be great and then Id have to buy.

Well, it’s already pretty high. The 35s on there are pretty close to the roofline. How high are you wanting?