Cruise Moab 2010

[marcfj60]

I still want to know how he rolled on E-Hill.

This is the spot where you have to back down the trail a couple hundred feet. He claimed that he was just trying to turn left down the trail at the bottom of the descent (instead of pulling up to the sign and backing down) and it fell off the edge of the trail and rolled down to the next level.

The trail leader told me he could see the guy's tire marks on the right side wall above the trail where he tried to go up the high side to get more room to turn. He thinks (the guy won't admit) that when he tried to make the turn and went up on the wall with the right front, the left rear dropped off the trail and his high CG did the rest of the work.

If you look in the picture, the trail you come down is on the left side of the truck. You can faintly see a blue winch line going up it to a truck that is out of the frame. He was coming down that trail and should have backed down like the FJC is doing instead of trying to just make the turn. I've heard plenty of people say it's doable to make the turn so I'm guessing it was just a combination of poor choices and bad luck. The roll consisted of going over on the passenger side, then roof and then stopping on the driver side like you see.

We attached a safety line to a winch uphill and then used a couple HI-LIFT jacks to get it upright, controlling the flip with the winch vehicle.

After we got him upright and wanted to keep going, there were 2 FJ60s and 2 FJCs that decided not to continue. I don't know if they were afraid after seeing his rollover or they didn't want to get back too late since we'd lost a good hour because of it.

 

[marcfj60]

brave man with no sliders... i don't know those trails but those sure are pretty rocker panels...

Brave. Stupid. Same difference. I took everything very slowly and carefully. I didn't do anything that I didn't feel comfortable with or that I could tell might seriously endanger the rockers. But I will certainly have sliders before I do anything like this again.

 

[Cruisergreg]

This is the spot where you have to back down the trail a couple hundred feet. He claimed that he was just trying to turn left down the trail at the bottom of the descent (instead of pulling up to the sign and backing down)

That's the spot where O'Niell thought the sign to back up was a joke and made a 4,200-point turn to make the left. But he did it alright.

 

[marcfj60]

Somehow, I can picture crazy O'niell thinking that and doing that.

 

[Markh]

Hey Pappy

Is this you on Up Chuck?

 

[pappy]

Nope, that was Steve in his 71 (?). I went up that same line. You can see why I took off my gas cap.

 

[pappy]

That's the spot where O'Niell thought the sign to back up was a joke and made a 4,200-point turn to make the left. But he did it alright.

Not that big a deal in a 40. BTDT just to see if I could.

 

[marcfj60]

Check out these great shots. It's the same obstacle as the previous picture I posted but from a different camera.

Fins on Friday

 

[juane]

That's the spot where O'Niell thought the sign to back up was a joke and made a 4,200-point turn to make the left. But he did it alright.

I've made the turn in my 80. Maybe a three pointer. I feel safer doing that than backing down if I don't have a spotter.

 

[Cruisergreg]

I've made the turn in my 80. Maybe a three pointer. I feel safer doing that than backing down if I don't have a spotter.

Maybe a three-pointer for you, but consider the other driver...

 

[2manycruisers]

I did make sure I had sliders before the trip, but once on the trail I discovered there is plenty of other low-hanging crap to beat up before getting close to the rockers. I barely have a couple scratches on the sliders from behind the rocks, but the cats, the crossunder pipe, the control arm mounts, the skid plate, all have marks, too.

Brave. Stupid. Same difference. I took everything very slowly and carefully. I didn't do anything that I didn't feel comfortable with or that I could tell might seriously endanger the rockers. But I will certainly have sliders before I do anything like this again.

 

[SteveLCetc]

So how was Area BFE anyway?

 

[marcfj60]

I have nothing to compare it to but the camping options were pretty limited and crowded. I didn't attend any of the group stuff so I can't comment on that. Having all the trails meet in town when you're staying 20+ minutes away is a pain. The blowing sand was miserable.

 

[alia176]

We popped in through BFE to say hi to some folks before heading into Moab for the night. This was the super windy day and area BFE was NOT the place you wanted to be at that time. It is very exposed so I'd imagine the folks there didn't have a good time.

Hopefully the Rising Sun club will get some feedbacks from the attendees (pos and neg) that will make next year's event even better.

 

[pappy]

Last night at the meeting Steve suggested I upload all my pics to the HDC server. Well, in progress with Golden Spike still uploading:

Pappy's CM2010 Pics, all of them

There are three folders with each run. This is a raw format with no thumbnails and most of the pics are rather large.

 

[pappy]

Now that you are back safely, what's the story on the driveshaft?
And the springhanger?

I started working on the spring hanger repair this morning. First task was to grind down all the welding we did in the field so I could evaluate the crack. Well, after looking at it, I decided I needed a second opinion. The Gorman's are going to come over and offer some advice. Any from this group welcome too. I do have some rectangular tubing I'm going to weld in to box the hanger and frame. I suspect there is going to be a lot of prep before I even get there. Larry said I will need to clean out the crack before welding. As it sits right now that will not be a problem.

In the field we used two batteries, jumper cables, and some welding rod to get me off the trail. On Sunday morning it was welded in camp with a small MIG enough to get me home.

Worthless without pics.

Welding done to get me home.

After cleaning I dropped the spring and the crack opened up.

 

[pappy]

Dry fit of the box. 1.5" x 3" x 1/8" rectangle tube. There is a piece of 1/4" x 1.5" on the bottom to take up the gap, add some strength, and give me something substantial to weld to. The Gormans suggested I get some penetrate dye to make sure there are not any more cracks I don't see.

 

[marcfj60]

Is there a reason you've put the side of the tube with the oval cutouts to the open side of the frame channel?

Also, I can't really tell but does that reinforcing box go all the way back to the crossmember? I would consider doing that.

 

[DanS HJ-45]

Jon:

x2 on the dye penetrant test. It's pretty easy, and no is definitely the time to check for cracks there.

I would make smaller large holes in the inner side of your box, just so you can weld the inside wall directly to the frame rail.

Otherwise looks good. I might also add small gussets vertically too.

Dan

 

[pappy]

Is there a reason you've put the side of the tube with the oval cutouts to the open side of the frame channel?

Also, I can't really tell but does that reinforcing box go all the way back to the crossmember? I would consider doing that.

The box is the same length as the driver's side and goes almost to the crossmember. The holes are there so I can access the bolts that hold on the bumper. It also matches the driver's side. I could have drilled and sleeved for the bolts, but decided not to.