Cries for help (1 Viewer)

[Everlung]

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mesa AZ
Posts: 10


cries for help
I get a lot from this website and I am eternally grateful for its existence. That sed--I am curious why so many requests for help are shluffed off to the "use the search/ search the thread" pile. Is this a matter of server resources or what?? I'm sure EVERY issue conceivable at some time has been beaten to death and can be resourced by search, solving whatever problem. I hope there is technical reason behind this. Otherwise, I enjoy getting fresh input on old problems. I feel that newbies (like myself) should be encouraged to post and share...etc etc

Am I missing something???

 

[GXO]

Usually a person referring you to search is doing you a favor. The issue has been addressed, we know it, and we are saving everyone time, effort, etc to get you to the answer post haste by using search.

This board is voluntary. To expect personal service for each and every post regardless of what has been said before is a bit of a stretch and perhaps your expectations of this board should be re-adjusted. I help here as I am able, but I don't get paid for it, therefore what I do is from kindness, not obligation, and I expect a certain amount of respect for what I have already given vs. what you expect me to give.

Hope this doesn't come off as too harsh, but everyone here tries to help. To expect us to rehash things we have spent HOURS describing already is pointless and a waste of everyone's time, not the server. It is your job to find the help you need, we are happy to get you to the right place, but prefer not to hold hands.

 

[dogcatch'n]

use the search and FAQ section, that should get you an answer...........
















Just a joke....I feel ya...man, people are sometimes short on this forum, but all in all it's a good place with good people.....

 

[Romer]

There is a lot of information in the FAQs and old posts. I tend to answer the persons question and list where the can find more info. Once you are Familiar with the FAQs and other sources of data, you will learn things you didn't think to ask.

We are here to help and if have read some of the recent threads, several people were saved expensive repairs and were able to get there truck back on the road.

Feel free to post your questions, but you will be helping yourself get better answers by using the reources to start. Sometimes those who respond really are not sure of the answer based on their experiances and could lead one in a wrong direction. Using the other sources will allow you to see multiple answers and solutions to help you decide how to proceed.

Look the info over and come back and ask your questions.

No one even the moderators get paid here. It's all voluntary and the mods both have full time jobs and do not read every post. Somedays I am so busy that I only log in to see if there is a PM about an issue.

Welcome and don't take the "use search" in a wrong manner. It is better to show people how to grow wheat rather than just give them bread.

 

[SteveH]

As much as the 'use the search function' sounds like a blow-off, the Ford Truck forum I was on had (literally) every day - 'one of my automatic hubs is stuck' postings. Given the much larger community of F-250 owners, this forum was pretty tedious - and huge, due to the repetitive postings.

So, I try to use the search function whenever I can.

Steve

 

[e9999]

all of the above is true.

I will say, however, that I find that it is often difficult to extract the essential information out of previous threads, due to the sheer mass of information, large number of posts, conflicting information, and issues being resolved over longish periods of time. So it can be very helpful at times to ask again so a simple clear consensus position can be summarized and articulated by somebody who took a lead interest in an issue and can tell the whole conclusion in a few words. In that sense, asking a question yet again can be justified / a good thing, too, IMO...

 

[Trunk Monkey]

It's a courtesy to the forum. Your question has likely been answered before, and with the resources here it's been answered in great detail and with photos. So, rather than have the forum inundated (which may not happen in all reality) with daily posts of "how big of tire?" or "what is pin 7?", it's courtesy to search before you post.

 

[Romer]

so a simple clear consensus position can be summarized and articulated by somebody who took a lead ...

Here is the problem Eric, How does a noob know that it is being answered by someone who took a lead and is qualified. In the search, the person can see the response and others reaction to it.

I had a poster once tell someone the way to find the engine noise in the truck is to have someone ride up front on the engine with the hood open while the other one drives.

I know this is OK for the 100's section where you don't get as much traffic, have as many threads nor the detailed FAQ of the 80's section.

That said, I have no problem with people asking questions again.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

I had a poster once tell someone the way to find the engine noise in the truck is to have someone ride up front on the engine with the hood open while the other one drives.

I remember that, that was funny as hell.

 

[e9999]

obviously, I'm not suggesting that one should not search. I do recommend this specifically in my post for Newbs for that matter. But it is also realistic to recognize that search results can be overwhelming. Plus the search function is not the best either.

Devil's advocate's hat off now....

 

[Romer]

Had another poster who got all excited that he figured out the wiper blade assembly came apart so you could easily change them, think he called it a Major Discovery. Next thing you know people were starting threads about the oil plug being a major discovery so they didn't have to flip the car to get the oil out of the dipstick anymore.

Has nothing to do with the purpose of this thread, just funny sometimes what people will post and you have to take some with a grain of salt.

 

[Driley]

I had a poster once tell someone the way to find the engine noise in the truck is to have someone ride up front on the engine with the hood open while the other one drives.

Where is MickeyRubicon these days? I loved that post and all of the responses he received!

I usually start in the FAQs, then search. Very few times has a problem popped up that has not been covered.

Riley

 

[Trunk Monkey]

Plus the search function is not the best either.

Totally disagree. If you know how to use the search function you can really hone down your search and make it very broad or very specific.

Hell, just be glad you don't have to pay to search.

 

[crholliday]

Next thing you know people were starting threads about the oil plug being a major discovery so they didn't have to flip the car to get the oil out of the dipstick anymore.

How come thats not in the FAQ?!?!?

 

[Beowulf]

Had another poster who got all excited that he figured out the wiper blade assembly came apart so you could easily change them, think he called it a Major Discovery.

Could you please post a link to that thread?

-B-

 

[Rookie2]

I think what you'll find is that people here are more than willing to help those that want to help themselves. A little searching even if you don't find what you're looking for, shows others that you're not to good to spend some of your time to get the answer. Quick posts without a search is an indication that an individual doesn't want to take any of their time to research the issue, they would rather others waste their time re-hashing something that's already been covered.

My personal favorite is the spazzy newb post where the guy fires out two or three quick questions and doesn't even take the time to write them in complete sentences, then gets pissed off when someone has the gall to ask for more info.


Rookie2

 

[IdahoDoug]

I think it does the newb a favor to suggest the search. So many times a newb will post something that is well known here and another newb will immediately post that they have to pull their engine, rebuild the tranny and order new diffs when we know it's a cracked intake tube. Newb #1 then says "OK, I'll take it to the dealer" thinking he's gotten good advice.

So, I think unless a thread is indicating someone's truck is disabled or they're out of town (should indicate by using words 'Real Time' which is honored here) and need help, it's usually best to have them search.

Having said that, there are a lot of folks including myself who don't mine quickly assessing the problem even if it's well known as long as the newb seems to express a good grasp of the problem. When a post is as Rookie2 indicates, it drives me crazy and others as well.

DougM

 

[tech_dog]

I think a search and maybe a hint on how to search is the right answer.

It's sometimes hard to find things if you can't remember some of the specific words used. Giving somone a good search word hint has got to be more helpful than a two line summary of what's already been discussed at length in 3-4 threads.

 

[TX_TLC]

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mesa AZ
Posts: 10


cries for help
I get a lot from this website and I am eternally grateful for its existence. That sed--I am curious why so many requests for help are shluffed off to the "use the search/ search the thread" pile. Is this a matter of server resources or what?? I'm sure EVERY issue conceivable at some time has been beaten to death and can be resourced by search, solving whatever problem. I hope there is technical reason behind this. Otherwise, I enjoy getting fresh input on old problems. I feel that newbies (like myself) should be encouraged to post and share...etc etc

Am I missing something???

You will find my answer in the post you originally posted this in.

Advanced search is your friend. I also prefer to search titles only, help limit results even more. Oh and don't forget to search only the 80's section if that is where you want to look.

 

[Driley]

Just to share, here is the thread that Romer was talking about... Absolutely classic!!!

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=85824&highlight=drive

Enjoy the read!

Riley