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Mine shipped today. Surprisingly quick.

I'd be rather surprised if it didn't show readiness status. Even the cheap gauges that show the code and nothing else shows that....
 
just ordered one. for $75cdn shipped to my door, cant beat that. as much as i wanted a SG, i cant pay 3X the price even if it was 5X the quality, when they both do most of the functions that im wanting out of these readers...
 
Everyone don't forget to post up how you mounted it.
 
Readiness checks are simply the checks that the OBD system has to do to make sure systems are functional and that the codes have not just been cleared.

If there's no MIL (Check Engine Light) ON, and ALL the readiness checks haven't finished, it will likely never pass a smog test if the technician checks it.

Ebag is right, even my cheap-o scantool shows those, no big deal.

I received my confirmation that it shipped today by USPS, from the size of it, I don't have a good idea how or where I'm going to install this thing.

It might go in the glove-box so I will only show it to people that don't know about the Scan Gauge! :lol: :lol:

Dan
 
I ordered one and two more for my brother in laws. They should make nice Christmas gifts considering they like to do their own vehicle repairs.

All I really want out of it is a better reading of my engine temperature than the factory gauge.
 
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Good user review, How is this thing big?????? Pictures show its not... Its actually better since I will be able to see the numbers much more clearer. Just ordered ultra-gauge - Bob Is The Oil Guy


Oh yeah I am in! They said Promotion might end on 8/22...

Paypal for me...

THanks OP for pointing me out to this or else I would have never known about it.
 
According to USPS tracking, mine's at the post office. I'll pick it up on the way to work. Busy day but I'll post a report ASAP.
 
I got an email from them making sure I realize the unit does not do metric, and giving me the option to change my mind if I wanted. I did know it didn't do metric so not a big deal.

That is nice to see though.
 
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I received mine today. My first impression after opening the box was "Looks like pretty good build quality." It's more compact than I expected and quite thin. The display is easy to read, even with my 50-year-old eyes. The plug and wire is permanently attached to the unit, requiring me to unscrew the fuse block to slip it through from behind. I also removed the OBD plug and left it dangling so I could replace the fuse block cover. The suction cup/arm that comes with it is very stiff (I thought it was a solid rod at first, but you can bend it.) and seems well-built.

A paper in the box sends you to the ultra-gauge.com/start website to idiot proof the installation and then you answer some questions including some hex code entry from a unit self-test to (I'm assuming) help them gather a database of what gauges are supprted by each vehicle. My LX450 had 48 codes IIRC. I don't know if that translates into number of available gauges. (I found out after reading the manual that's not the case. It's only to verify the rebate claim.) When done you get a printable rebate form to mail in. The full manual (well-written) is also available there.

Menu settings are pretty straight forward and intuitive. I haven't played with eveything yet but so far all is good. My initial impression is it's well worth the money. It's well-designed, well-made, and has good support. So far anyway.
 
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I received mine yesterday, ordered on Friday. So, if nothing else the shipping and packing is top notch.

I plugged the unit in (nice connector and being right angle is also a nice touch for a slim fit). Drove around a bit and it seems to function well. Display is pretty good and decent sized. The buttons are on the inside edge of the back of the unit - so that makes accessing them 'different' and I could see it as a big problem if the unit is flush mounted etc. Given the size of the display I can understand they decided to put the switches on the back to try and keep the overall package size down - but it's definitely something that will limit mounting options.

The manual states it draws 1W (have to measure at some point) while 'off' since it draws power from the battery all the time via the obd2 connector. No idea how that compares to the scangauge. That would imply around 80mA which would be around 2Ahr per day, so if the 1W quoted number is real, that's more than I'd like to be drawing if the vehicle was parked for a week or so.

It does have a lot of default 'gauges' but most appear to be mpg and time/distance traveled related, i.e. estimates of fuel usage and distance left on the tank. Not sure how accurate that info is, but to me it's rather useless since a) I have a pretty good idea what my fuel gauge is telling me and b) I have a subtank.

The main benefit I see for my own use is the coolant temp and ability to find out what CEL is thrown and to clear it as needed without having to hook up the much larger and cumbersome laptop based Ease reader I have access to. By default most of the gauges seem centered around trip computer functions (mpg, distance to empty etc etc), I'll have to go through the actual useful gauges (based on what the 80 obd2 provides) and choose some more engine specific stuff to display.

The mounting bracket is quite substantial (glass sucker), but I'll more than likely mount my unit somewhere else - or wait for some bright spark on mud to find the ultimate mounting location :)

The pdf manual can be found at UltraGauge Start

It is made in China, not sure where scanguage is actually made. I'm hoping the ultragauge engineering and firmware development was as least done in the US, certainly the online manual was.

There is a small clip/slide panel on the backside that removes to present a 3x2 (6 pin) set of holes/pads. From my own work with microcontrollers, that 6 pin interface looks awfully like the standard serial programming interface of the Atmel family of microcontrollers. It may be for a PIC as well. Anyhow, they have provided an access panel for flashing new firmware into the unit. Obviously it would require sending the unit back, but at least it does have the facility for being updated - assuming Ultraguage is proactive in providing future enhancements or updates.

So my 1/2 hour usage summary is that it appears to work, for the $ is appears reasonably well made and the online manual is actually in english and has more than 2 pages (40+). Never seen a scanguage in real life so I have no idea how it compares - especially in the long run.

cheers,
george.
 
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It is made in China, not sure where scanguage is actually made. I'm hoping the ultragauge engineering and firmware development was as least done in the US, certainly the online manual was.

From what I've read development is State side. The developer seems to be fairly responsive, but relatively unwilling (at least in the short term) to add features if he thinks it will be used by the minority of his customers. I know one person was conversing with him trying to get more debug type info (freeze frame data) added, the developer didn't think many folks would use it so it wouldn't be worth adding anytime soon.

There is a small clip/slide panel on the backside that removes to present a 3x2 (6 pin) set of holes/pads. From my own work with microcontrollers, that 6 pin interface looks awfully like the standard serial programming interface of the Atmel family of microcontrollers. It may be for a PIC as well. Anyhow, they have provided an access panel for flashing new firmware into the unit. Obviously it would require sending the unit back, but at least it does have the facility for being updated - assuming Ultraguage is proactive in providing future enhancements or updates.

Firmware can be updated for free the first year, if you send it back. From what I've read, the developer didn't think that many folks would be interested in firmware updates, so the extra expense/time/etc was not put in to having the ability to be updated by the end user. No idea on cost (if any) to update the firmware after the first year.

For me it's a major bummer that I can't update the firmware, but it's an understandable decision. IMHO it's probably the right one to make.

It will be interesting to see if there actually are updates to the firmware, and if that's communicated to the end user or not.
 
The manual states it draws 1W (have to measure at some point) while 'off' since it draws power from the battery all the time via the obd2 connector. No idea how that compares to the scangauge. That would imply around 80mA which would be around 2Ahr per day, so if the 1W quoted number is real, that's more than I'd like to be drawing if the vehicle was parked for a week or so.

Is there not some sort of "manual off" function or button? I'd agree that would be a decent draw over a long period of time. There are a few dead battery threads in the ultraguage forum..maybe just combination of a little continuous draw and a failing battery?
 
The display looks like it is big enough to be usable. Are you able to put the important readings on top? I.e. engine and transmission temp?
 
The display looks like it is big enough to be usable. Are you able to put the important readings on top? I.e. engine and transmission temp?

I do not believe it can display transmission temperature.
 
The display looks like it is big enough to be usable. Are you able to put the important readings on top? I.e. engine and transmission temp?
You can put any available gauge anywhere you want. My '97 is showing 33 available gauges. Transmission temp. isn't one of them. Our 80's are old enough you're only gonna get the basic OBD stuff. IAT, ECT, fuel and air rates, MPH, O2 sensor data, timing and anything that can be calculated from those numbers.
 
Got mine today.

To echo several other posters, I'm surprised at how small it is. For some reason the site and pictures make it seem larger than it really is. Then again, I'm always surprised at how big the Scan Gauge is when I see one, I always think of it as being smaller than it really is. :meh:

Navigation is pretty intuitive. Once you figure out where the buttons are on the back, it's very easy to navigate around. My only wish was that the select/ok button was closer to the up/down buttons, but that's pretty minor.

My '96 shows 33 available gauges. Haven't went through all the different gauges yet, but out of the box it's very functional. Showed the gauges that are most likely to be wanted by your everyday consumer.

Even if it did nothing more than what it does right now, I'd be happy with it. Well worth the purchase price (even at the slightly more expensive price).
 

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