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Too much $$ for 222k mikes? Haven't spoken to the owner yet to ask about what "well maintained" means. Any input appreciated.

2000 Toyota Land Cruiser / Second Owner / Clean Title

rjones
Pictures look clean.
Inspect, inspect then inspect some more. If rust free, paint good, body good, no accident, all systems working with good maintenance records of fluid changes at minimum. Than offer $6,700 less cost to fix and issues you find.

Tips:
  1. Look above spider joint (u-joints), for caked-on old grease slung off onto frame and nearby components. This indicates proper lube service.
  2. Look at coolant hoses, especial those at heart T's. Swollen hoses may be indication of running very hot or overheating. Is coolant red any records of flushing.
  3. Do a compression check if any concerns of overheating or frequency of oil changes.
  4. Pull grease cap with front wheel off ground, to inspect axle to wheel hub flange play (none is best)
  5. Is steering tight or does it wander down the HYW from side to side, or does steering wheel stay off center a bit after each turn left than right.
  6. Any signs of leaks.
 
Underbody:







 
Underbody:







Wow looks great, congratulation. How about some history like how much and where was this puppy raised?
 
I live in Cincinnati OH and was looking for a rust fee Southern vehicle, so I spent a few months stalking Craigslist and found this one in Atlanta.

Three owner vehicle. She started life in Texas as a lease which was turned in at about 20K miles. Second life was as a fleet vehicle (think company car) until about 45K miles. Third owner (old lady) had it until she traded it in about a month ago at her Lexus dealer.

Full service records :)

Paid $8,800
 
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A shame you're taking that to the Rust Belt :(.

I've never used Fluid Film, but I know a guy who has in Michigan - sprayed the underbody every year and you'd never know he drove that daily in Michigan.
 
oh boy. good call waiting and searching. I've been hunting for quite a while now for another one for the wife.

Hate to see you take that one to to the salt!
 
Forgot to add...

I just had it in for a full inspection at my local Lexus dealer and the only thing i need to do are repack the front wheel bearings and replace the SLOWLY weeping CV boots. Other than that, the service writer was amazed!!! Actually had the mechanic come on out and comment on how well taken care of the truck is :-)

On principle, I am going to change the oil, diffs and transfer case fluids, flush the AHC fluid, replace spark plugs, and then service the bearings and CV joints. After that, THE MODS BEGIN, HA HA HA!!!
 
Too much $$ for 222k mikes? Haven't spoken to the owner yet to ask about what "well maintained" means. Any input appreciated.

2000 Toyota Land Cruiser / Second Owner / Clean Title

rjones

Its a a tad bit overprices like by about $1300-2000. I feel. Although it looks clean. They didnt show the front seat condition. But rest is clean. There's a 2000 LC here in Atl market that's been going for $6k in CL for a while now with 214k miles...so thats why i say its a tad bit overpriced. 2000 Toyota Land Cruiser 4WD
 
Going tonight to look at a 06 LC w/ 160k miles, timing belt and water pump done at 93k in 2012 so timing belt is due within 20k miles and It has an excellent service history. Yes it's a North East truck but from the pics there's very little to no rust on the under side. Its missing the running boards but I would take them off any way. They have it listed at $19.9k what would your starting offer be.
 
Going tonight to look at a 06 LC w/ 160k miles, timing belt and water pump done at 93k in 2012 so timing belt is due within 20k miles and It has an excellent service history. Yes it's a North East truck but from the pics there's very little to no rust on the under side. Its missing the running boards but I would take them off any way. They have it listed at $19.9k what would your starting offer be.
Way too high

offer in the 16's

My southern truck, 2006 with 175k was 16.5, also needs a TB change soon.
 
Way too high

offer in the 16's

My southern truck, 2006 with 175k was 16.5, also needs a TB change soon.

Thanks, I've been looking for a while now using search tempest and the usual online car sale sites, anywhere else I should be looking.
 
Thanks, I've been looking for a while now using search tempest and the usual online car sale sites, anywhere else I should be looking.
For me,
Autotrader and Craigslist, waited months for the right one, test drove 4 before getting this one.
found this one at AutoNation Toyota via their Craigslist dealer Ad
 
Found mine using SearchTempest. And patience... My big thing was documented service and lack of rust. Most of the ones I looked at felt like a compromise, and I KNEW I would wish I tried just a little harder to find my "cream puff."

Don't settle...
 
Decided not to go see the one with 220k on it.

This just popped up this morning. A little over an hour away. Really not a fan of another silver car but a 1 owner, non-nav '00-'02 is what I am looking for. Price seems ~$1500 too high. Guess I'll know it when I see it...

2001 Toyota Land Cruiser 1-Owner 4WD Clean Title&Carfax Loaded . EXC
 
Decided not to go see the one with 220k on it.

This just popped up this morning. A little over an hour away. Really not a fan of another silver car but a 1 owner, non-nav '00-'02 is what I am looking for. Price seems ~$1500 too high. Guess I'll know it when I see it...

2001 Toyota Land Cruiser 1-Owner 4WD Clean Title&Carfax Loaded . EXC

That Cruiser looks solid. One thing I think people do not value, quite enough, is really clean cars. You should not get as stuck up on the price, if it has been maintained well, and in good condition. More often than not, you would be better suited to spend a few $1,000 extra on a really clean model, that saving some dough on one that has been abused/neglected. Simple things like windows, sunroof, heated seats, body damage, or torn seats costs a ton to fix. You may say, "Not a big deal, tear in the driver seat" now, but 2 years down the line, when you want to reupholster it, it may be $1,000+ (may be an exaggeration), or a new sunroof is $2k, etc. At that point, you would have been better off getting the 2002 with 165k miles for $15k (perfect shape), vs a 1999 with 185k miles for $6,500 (poor shape).

I also disagree with a lot of people who say "offer X amount minus necessary repairs/needed maintenance." When a Cruiser is 10+ years old, and has 150k-200k miles, one should assume that the car will need some work, to baseline it and ensure it is good for another 100k. The fact that it may need some work (maybe new CV joints, TB, etc), does not necessarily mean that the car is not worth the asking price, and you should not walk into a deal expecting the seller to cover all the cost of the work needed.

Example from above, where they said "offer $6,700 minus necessary repairs". You should not expect a seller to give their truck away, simply because it needs some work. You may get lucky and find someone who will, but even if that Cruiser needed $3k worth of repairs, $3,700 would not be a fair price, for the seller. The Cruiser is worth that in parts.

Very often, if the seller had done the work already, they should be asking MORE for the car, but they have already discounted the price, knowing it will need some money put into it. Obviously, it never hurts to try and lower the price, but don't walk away from a clean Cruiser simply because it needs new CV Joints, or brakes, and the seller doesn't want to pay for it themselves.

Most importantly, though, since these cars are so reliable, and don't typically need major mechanical repairs, try to find the cleanest interior/body you can. That is what gets harder and harder to find, and is worth paying extra for (unless you plan on abusing it yourself, of course). It seems that most of these Cruisers with 200k miles run perfectly, but most do not have perfect interiors/exteriors.
 
unroof is $2k, etc. At that point, you would have been better off getting the 2002 with 165k miles for $15k (perfect shape), vs a 1999 with 185k miles for $6,500 (poor shape).

Assuming my budget can reach $15k. You make a very good point, thank you for that contribution.

Most importantly, though, since these cars are so reliable, and don't typically need major mechanical repairs, try to find the cleanest interior/body you can. That is what gets harder and harder to find, and is worth paying extra for (unless you plan on abusing it yourself, of course). It seems that most of these Cruisers with 200k miles run perfectly, but most do not have perfect interiors/exteriors.

Again really good stuff! Very nice to have input like this from the community for someone like me not well versed in the LC market. Thank you again.

rjones
 

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