Busted ignition - ignition cylinder rod replacement

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I used the eBay rod.

I swapped the metal blade, plunger lock thing, and the teeny springs from my broken OE rod. Circled in blue.

I only pulled the new rod out of the "bracket" to see if the ebay casting looked the same. It pretty much does. The new Toyota part was reassembled like stock and put back in the packaging; never needed to use it.

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Can you please tell me more about the spring(s) that hold that brass colored clip in. I didnt see any in the old one. Is it just one spring? Where does it go? Thanks
 
I’ve read through this thread backwards and forwards a few times and my head hurts. So many different numbers flying around.

So far I’ve seen 6 “rod numbers” mentioned:
  • 7850A - This is apparently the one for manual tilt (aka Land Cruisers) (But I think only 1998-2002?)
  • 7850B - Another poster says this is identical to 7850A. (But I think only 1998-2002?)
  • 7853A - Some people say this is the one needed for power tilt (aka LX 470). (But probably not for 2003+?) This one is ~$120 on ebay.
  • 7853B - But some people say this is the same as 7853A. (But probably not for 2003+?) This one is much cheaper, only ~$20 on ebay.
  • 2061A - Some people say this is what you find in the 2003+ manual tilt (aka Land Cruisers). It is not clear if this is what 2003+ power tilt needs as well?
  • 2061B - I saw a picture in this thread with someone that had a busted B. Probably the same as 2061A? This one can be found on ebay.

And here are the Toyota Part Numbers I’ve seen for the whole assembly:
  • 45280-60460: Amayama says for Land Cruiser - 01.1998 - 07.2002
  • 45280-60510: Amayama says for LX470 04.1998 - 01.2002
  • 45280-60610: Amayama says for Land Cruiser - 08.2002 - 12.2007 (Amayama also says this is for LX470 - 04.2005 - 04.2007. But I did a search on Partsouq for a 2003 LX and it shows this number too)

I think in the end you just have to do like others have mentioned and just pull the rod out and see your rod number. Nevertheless, I feel like we are really close to the “truth” here. Again, PLEASE do your own checking here, but I THINK this might be the decoder ring:

Rod NumberToyota Assembly
1998-2002 LC (Manual Tilt)7850A or 7850B45280-60460
1998-2002 LX (Power Tilt)7853A or 7853B45280-60510
2003+ LC (and probably LX?)2061A or 2061B45280-60610

Very open to feedback here! Hopefully we can figure out all the right numbers...
I've gone digging through this thread rabbit hole as well and am on the hunt for a 7850A that I pulled out of my '99 LC, but from everything that I've found no one has discussed what the difference between the A's and B's are. I can find plenty of the B's online through amazon and retail parts dealers, but for the life of me CANNOT find an A - are these interchangeable without the parasitic battery draw? I know I need the rod for the manual tilt, but I can't seem to find a difference between 7850A and 7850B - or a link/search result for an A. I still need to dig out the other piece, but since I now know exactly what I need, I thought I'd start the hunt to purchase it.

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Can you please tell me more about the spring(s) that hold that brass colored clip in. I didnt see any in the old one. Is it just one spring? Where does it go? Thanks

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It’s a tiny little thing the sits below the brass piece. It initially didn’t want to come out of the old rod, but I used a pick tool (that I also used to get the old rod out) to free the spring.

Check the area around where you took the brass out in case it fell out without you noticing maybe?
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The purple arrow points to where the spring pushes back on the brass piece.
 
Good evening. Had this happen today with my 02 LC 100 VX and given location of car at shopping mall in 43Celcius I had to have a key guy help asap.

He ended up removing the whole ignition cylinder and locking mechanism (punched the anti-theft bolts out) and left me with just the switch and the ignition ring that reads the chip in the key so that I could start the car with a screwdriver and limp home.

He's ordering the part (took the VIN and he has been warned about the possibility of Parasitic power drain issue if wrong one used).

What I found worrying and could not find on the thread here, is when we drove home the car had virtually no power, the HVAC system was dead and none of the electric windows worked nor did the car's lights. Any idea why this may be?

When I went back later to the car to see if anything obvious was unplugged, the indicators worked again and the lights, but when I tried to start the car the ignition switch had unfortunately sprung apart (see pictures). But weirdly all electronics that I could work with ignition off, seemed to work now.

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Any ideas?

Key guy said he'll try and repair switch first as new one may not be necessary.

And whilst I am bothering you all, does anyone know why the central locking would stop working when it's very warm outside and the car has been in the sun? Apparently there's a module behind the cubby that may be related to this problem?

Thanks for your time!
 
New member here, and just got done with fixing this problem. 2000 LC, 173,000 miles. Much gratitude for all of the advice on here. I never would have been able to complete this without all of your help.
What I learned:
Follow the video. It will get you there.
I did not have to remove the seat or the air duct.
I had to remove the screws completely on the white piece in order to fish out the broken piece. It did not come apart and was very easy to put back in.
Most importantly, for the replacement piece, when I removed my broken one, it was stamped 7850A. I could not find a replacement. The only one I could find was the Turkish one on Amazon stamped 7850B. I decided to try it and it worked perfectly. I still don’t know what the difference is. Total cost, about $30 (20 for the part, and 10 for a new set of picks because I couldn’t find mine). Took me about 2 hours of working time (over several days due to researching the correct part and waiting for the part to be delivered). I worked slow, recording video of every step so I could put it back together again in case it all went bad). I could probably do it in less than 30 minutes now if I had the part on hand, and I am no mechanic. I can, however, follow instructions, and the instructions in the video were fantastic.
Just wanted to post my experience hoping it helps somebody else. Again, a huge thanks to all for your help in getting this done. Well over $1,000 saved in repair costs.
Erik
 
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So I was able to get the piece from Amazon and get it inserted. Went to plug in the black wire to the key ring, but it will not go back in.

The male side does not have slots, but the female side has pieces on each side that would typically require slots.

What am I missing here?


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