building more LPB beds... come watch
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dmaddox
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brilliant. just brilliant.
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You know your awsome
so I will not tell you that again....
I think you could use a GO PRO HD camera with head mount
Pretty cool toy, just picked one up myself..
Rob
so I will not tell you that again....I think you could use a GO PRO HD camera with head mount
Pretty cool toy, just picked one up myself..
Rob
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@ Bed Production 10:
This rib tool that you say dosen't belong to you. Was that custom made or just something lying around that had been used on another job? Could something like that (if tooling were made) be controlled well enough to put a series of longer, parallel ribs in say a floor? I guess the required pressure would increase drastically, etc.?
This rib tool that you say dosen't belong to you. Was that custom made or just something lying around that had been used on another job? Could something like that (if tooling were made) be controlled well enough to put a series of longer, parallel ribs in say a floor? I guess the required pressure would increase drastically, etc.?
Awl_TEQ
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Gus,
That tool belongs to Hilltop Cruisers and is the rib from the top of the wheel weels in a 40. He had them made at a machine shop friend of his. It can't work in a progressive manner to make a longer rib because after the first hit any subsequent hit would crush the first pressing. If you look at the tool and visualize a second hit you'll see what I mean.
Progressive rib tools are available for the turret puch press but they are quite expensive and custom made for each application.
That tool belongs to Hilltop Cruisers and is the rib from the top of the wheel weels in a 40. He had them made at a machine shop friend of his. It can't work in a progressive manner to make a longer rib because after the first hit any subsequent hit would crush the first pressing. If you look at the tool and visualize a second hit you'll see what I mean.
Progressive rib tools are available for the turret puch press but they are quite expensive and custom made for each application.
Thanks Kevin,
You said you considered the Dynasty 200 - do you know if something like the Miller 200 DX complete package (which comes with coolant, etc.) would be as "hassle free" to set up as the Diversion machines. I know it's more versatile/complicated to operate but would it create additional "setup" problems in a garage environment? Looks like it's selectable power (3 or 1 phase) but I'm worried about all the additional stuff. Seems pretty compact and vertical as far as the room it takes up. Is all that cooling stuff self-contained in the unit?
Awl_TEQ
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The water cooling system is a self contained recirculating type. I would say seeing the pictures online that it comes with everything and takes just a bit of time to assemble.
I actually won't set up the machines at work. Too many buttons. I just tell the guy whos station I plan to use what I am welding and he sets it up. That way I don't mess up his settings and he doesn't have to spend half an hour of company time resetting it after I weld stuff on my own time (ask me how I learned that).
Forgive me if I make an assumption here: you seem to be a very detail oriented guy. I believe you would thrive on the challege related to learning all of the ins and outs of the extra options on a 200DX. Seeing the high quality tools you have purchased to date and the lengths you have gone to learn their function and use I think you are better suited to the DX.
I actually won't set up the machines at work. Too many buttons. I just tell the guy whos station I plan to use what I am welding and he sets it up. That way I don't mess up his settings and he doesn't have to spend half an hour of company time resetting it after I weld stuff on my own time (ask me how I learned that).
Forgive me if I make an assumption here: you seem to be a very detail oriented guy. I believe you would thrive on the challege related to learning all of the ins and outs of the extra options on a 200DX. Seeing the high quality tools you have purchased to date and the lengths you have gone to learn their function and use I think you are better suited to the DX.
Thanks for the kind words Kevin.
Might be time to sell off my old truck and a few other toys and start talking to the local AirGas guys. It might delay getting a few parts for the 40 but who knows when that will be running anyway.
An unsolicited opinion so feel free to ignore...
I tried like hell to convince myself I needed the 200DX but when it came down to it, I could not justify the extra $2500 it would have taken to get it over the Diversion 180. If the 165 was the only choice in the Diversion line up, then I think I may have had a stronger argument with myself.
So far, I'm happy with the 180 and I'm nowhere near being able to outweld the features of this welder and likely I'll never be. Yes, if all else was equal, I'd still like to have a Dynasty in my garage to tinker with but then I'd be tinkering with the welder and not tinkering with the 45.
I tried like hell to convince myself I needed the 200DX but when it came down to it, I could not justify the extra $2500 it would have taken to get it over the Diversion 180. If the 165 was the only choice in the Diversion line up, then I think I may have had a stronger argument with myself.
So far, I'm happy with the 180 and I'm nowhere near being able to outweld the features of this welder and likely I'll never be. Yes, if all else was equal, I'd still like to have a Dynasty in my garage to tinker with but then I'd be tinkering with the welder and not tinkering with the 45.
An unsolicited opinion so feel free to ignore...
I tried like hell to convince myself I needed the 200DX but when it came down to it, I could not justify the extra $2500 it would have taken to get it over the Diversion 180. If the 165 was the only choice in the Diversion line up, then I think I may have had a stronger argument with myself.
So far, I'm happy with the 180 and I'm nowhere near being able to outweld the features of this welder and likely I'll never be. Yes, if all else was equal, I'd still like to have a Dynasty in my garage to tinker with but then I'd be tinkering with the welder and not tinkering with the 45.
Thanks Mike,
You/Kevin are the gospel for me on mud - I'll put all this in my pipe and smoke it a while longer
I'm sure I could'nt outweld the 180 either.
Awl_TEQ
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I had planned on the 200DX and about a year ago I swear they were advertised on Miller's site at something like $3600. But when I was ready a last week I was stunned when the page opened up at $6500. We only paid $7200 for the TIG Runner package 350DX at work about five years ago.
Pretty sure you are right that the 200DX is about $3600 BUT, that is JUST THE POWER SOURCE. Does not include cables, torch, regulator, power plug, accessories, etc. I had it priced out at the dealer where I bought the 180 and the 200DX with everythig I needed to start welding out the door was approaching the $5k mark.
whitey45
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Thought I would post a couple pics of real time bed assembly! I picked up the bed supports from Kevin a couple months ago,and am building the lower floor for my removable sides that I put together 10 years ago but ended up getting rid of the flat bed I had built for the sides,so here I am again buliding the lower floor to accept the removable sides again.But this is closer to stock and alot lighter thanks to Kevins hard work..
whitey45
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Sure, I moved shop,I will pm you ..
Not to keep banging away on this but I noticed that Miller has a Dynasty 200 DX Air-Cooled Package (Foot Pedal) 951174 which seems to have everything (sans cart/tank of course). $4,680 list, $3,602.00 at cyberweld.com, etc.
Still not cheap, but I'm I right to assume this would be roughly the same as the Diversion 180 setup in a 200DX that could be updated to water, etc. later?
Yes, I think you can add the Miller CoolMate or other water cooled torch system later to the Dynasty. The Miller CoolMate 1 is rated up to 200 amps. Same store sells it for about $500. Might need some other accesories to have everything you need:
Miller Coolmate 1 Coolant System 300360
That price, $3,600 seems better than what I recall when I was looking but then maybe my memory is fading. Its still about double what I paid for the Diversion, but then you have a lot more upgrades, options, and buttons to consider and tinker with on the Dynasty.
If you can afford it, buying the Dynasty will never be a mistake.
