Bolt on turbo kit (8 Viewers)

[scottryana]

Haha I used to like their valve covers too. It was 6 3/4 L not 6.75.

But I think people are getting mixed up. Crank numbers matter less than Wheel numbers.

WE HAVE THE EXACT power to the ground. We don't have to guess. We don't have to estimate.

Stock was 120awhp, SC was 155awhp and the turbo was 214awhp.

The power to the ground is the only thing that matters, crank numbers used to just be more available.

We should respond like Rolls Royce and Bentley used to say in response to the question of horsepower and torque: “Adequate.”

 

[alia176]

This.

Ok, so we agree on the following gains?

378hp 448tq at the crank? just kidding!!!

 

[Wompom]

hp x1.77 to get the 121awhp to the quoted 212 of stock
tq x1.62 to get the 170ft/lbs to the 275 quoted of stock engine

so 378hp 448tq is what I got.

Ok, so we agree on the following gains?

378hp 448tq at the crank? just kidding!!!

I was about to go on a long tangent about how that math does not work until i refreshed and saw the edit... hahaha

 

[alia176]

I just want some bragging rights for crank output since those are the #s that are talked about when comparing to other V8 engine outputs.

 

[jjdeneen918]

I just want some bragging rights for crank output since those are the #s that are talked about when comparing to other V8 engine outputs.

Yup. Ditto.
Cuz you know everyone is gonna be asking when they see it installed.

 

[Wompom]

TUUUUUUUURBO	Factory Crank	Stock Dyno	Turbo Dyno
HP	212	121	214
Torque	275	170	277
Loss at crank stock (delta)		% loss	% at wheels
HP	91​	0.429245283​	0.570754717​
Torque	105​	0.381818182​	0.618181818​
Turbo crank power
HP	214 = .57*X	214 / 0.57	374.9421488​
Torque	277=.618*X	277/.618	448.0882353​

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Doing the math based on reported 212/275 from the factory and dynoing at 121/170 stock would be a 42% hp and 38% ft/lb torque loss. Applying the same percentage of drivetrain loss to the turbo numbers does give 375/448. I don't believe this is accurate but i did the math a few different ways and got the same results. I think there is some non-linear aspect to powertrain loss that can't be accurately accounted for here. Low power motors use a lot more of their available power to get things moving (high loss percentage). When you up the numbers that percentage would be considerably lower. By applying the same percentage from stock to the turbo there is no way to account for the actual loss.

 

[scottryana]

Around 310-330 crank hp and 400-420ft/lbs to equal the turbo kit.

 

[landtank]

Depends on your state too. I couldn't deduct my state taxes this year..

and why should you

 

[NLXTACY]

I’ll be drinking heavily and away from my phone for the rest of the day.

 

[iptman]

Eff

Hope the driver and any passengers are ok.

 

[Wompom]

HOLY sad to hear. Hope everyone was ok.
Interested to hear the story behind what happened.

 

[BILT4ME]

I’ll be drinking heavily and away from my phone for the rest of the day.

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That's not real...........

Is it?

 

[scottryana]

I am sure this can not be talked about considering there will be some insurance actions, etc but I saw the picture and sure looked like someone was out being a Hooligan.

 

[richmondbob]

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You will need to run high-octane gas, so fuel will cost more

Regular grade gas hit CDN $1.70/litre here in Vancouver, BC - the equivalent of USD $4.83/gallon (vs current price regular gas in Washington State of $3.35/gallon ).

It's looking to go up more thanks to the idiots in charge here picking a fight with the next province over, Alberta, where 2/3 of our gas comes from.

That said, once I take care of a few things - and if Joey's not retired on a tropical island living off Turbo money - I'm eyeing round two release for the Turbo.

 

[GSTMike]

I am sure this can not be talked about considering there will be some insurance actions, etc but I saw the picture and sure looked like someone was out being a Hooligan.

In the test mule? Or vehicle that hit it?

Hope everyone is ok regardless!

 

[scottryana]

I don't believe any other vehicles were involved...

In the test mule? Or vehicle that hit it?

Hope everyone is ok regardless!

 

[Corbet]

Joey, I’m extremely sorry to here the news of the accident. I hope all involved are OK.

For the rest of you arguing over crank power numbers none of you are considering that the Icon truck most likely was not making the OEM published power numbers. It’s 20 years old with 200K on the odometer.

Take the dyno numbers and DIVIDE by .7 for a 30% drivetrain loss assumption. That is the best guess without pulling the engine and putting it in a engine dyno direct.

306/396. Those figures are brag worthy for an hot rod tractor engine. They exceeded my expectations and I look forward to the arrival of my kit.

Maybe I need one of these on the front quarter panel as a conversation starter. 396 Torque, it’s turboed, and sounds like a jet when spooled up.

 

[chap79]

Hope no one was hurt. Horrible news.

 

[jjdeneen918]

I am sure this can not be talked about considering there will be some insurance actions, etc but I saw the picture and sure looked like someone was out being a Hooligan.

SEMA employee putting milage accumulation on the rig?

 

[GSTMike]

I don't believe any other vehicles were involved...

That's got to make for some interesting questions!