NLXTACY
Wits' End
Or live in CA and don't have the option
Bolt on turbo kit (6 Viewers)
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Really I have a California CARB cert for my Safari Turbo
as it was registered in CA a few years back
NLXTACY
Wits' End
Rare duck now
But I don't have a CARB issue, let's get this party started.
I wonder how much I would charge California people to register there 80 s at my house.
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Well don't get too excited, this is not an active project for me right now. If I was still at my old job I would have had plenty of time and money to make this happen but right now I am just the idea man. I am kind of pitching the idea to a couple of people that I know have the capability to pull this off and would do a very good job.
My idea would be for the base kit to include everything you need to bolt on a turbo to a stock 80. This kit would be a J-pipe from the stock manifolds and would likely come in right around $3k or so. I like the option to add an intercooler as I think it is an important piece of the FI puzzle. One of the smart guys I talked to had the idea that if done properly the intercooler add on could be used for either the Turbo kit or the TRD SC......
Who knows if this will take off, but I wanted to see if there was actual interest before I spent any more of my time working on a solution.
My idea would be for the base kit to include everything you need to bolt on a turbo to a stock 80. This kit would be a J-pipe from the stock manifolds and would likely come in right around $3k or so. I like the option to add an intercooler as I think it is an important piece of the FI puzzle. One of the smart guys I talked to had the idea that if done properly the intercooler add on could be used for either the Turbo kit or the TRD SC......
Who knows if this will take off, but I wanted to see if there was actual interest before I spent any more of my time working on a solution.
Watching closely!
Interested.
Is not a CARB cert just money?
LLC in Montana...
Actually you dont need anything to registrar a vehicle in Montana. It been known to be done over the phone just give any address and use your current address for mailing.
I threw a feeler out for a left over EMS J pipe some time ago but no go. It would be easiest to copy that and in my opinion, it was the best off the shelf offering ever made for the 1fz-fe. I would be all about the kit, and I am willing to help with development. I agree with @LandCruiserPhil on the turbo being better than the SC and I have a SC! It is a matter of modern tech vs. antiquated tech.
My biggest problem is lack of turbo knowledge. I can find production sources for downpipe, manifold (once developed) and other custom little stuff. The rest is just sourced from existing vendors.
Another great thing about the turbo, if I am not mistaken, is the ability to easily move up boost (and hp) after appropriate mods are made, namely a parallel ecu and fueling.
Does that sound right @scottryana ?
My biggest problem is lack of turbo knowledge. I can find production sources for downpipe, manifold (once developed) and other custom little stuff. The rest is just sourced from existing vendors.
Another great thing about the turbo, if I am not mistaken, is the ability to easily move up boost (and hp) after appropriate mods are made, namely a parallel ecu and fueling.
Does that sound right @scottryana ?
Does anyone have a remote idea how much time and money it takes to get CARB certification done in CA? I suspect a lot, but I really don't know.
Plus you get a Montana plate that makes everyone envious of you.
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This deserves a longer response than I have time for tonight, but you are kind of correct, the turbo in this base kit could certainly be turned up, but the kit would ship likely with the wastegate set to known safe settings and without stiffer springs to keep the temptation of turning it up to a minimum, not for any kind of "he is trying to keep us limited so he can make more money". (I won't make a dime on this btw even if it does happen). But because I know the temptation boost presents and it's so easy to think oh just a psi more or a few pounds more and then you have issues, and try and blame the kit. So while yes there could be an upgrade path using this system, and I would certainly be happy to help individuals get there if this kit comes to fruition, but at that point the user has to start assuming the risk because boost control, proper fueling, etc would be up to them. Sounds kind of dickish, like I don't trust mud members but that's not true at all. I just would want to make longevity the key in this base kit.
Not dick-ish at all. As an example, I still stand by my opinion that EMS would be better for us to still exist. @baktasht got crushed by mishaps just trying to grow his company. I had an EMS exhaust that I cut off and threw away but I still miss the amazing development they did on turbos. I kind of look at my failed exhaust system as a specialty item that may or may not last long term-my risk. Many want it all and I get that, but we are talking Cruisers not Jeeps here. If we want specialty items something has got to give or no one will provide s**t for us.
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As I recall when TRD/Magnuson developed the SC originally they started in approximately in late '96 or early '97 and the CARB certification and first production/sales happened in fall 2000. Obviously not all that time was directly related to certification as there were other models TRD were developing and there were delays getting corporate approvals etc. but it is certainly not a 30 day process. CARB approval is not a cheap process. To be practical and cost effective 100's of units would have to be the target sales.
