Bolt on turbo kit (3 Viewers)

[Asqrd]

half k cruiser

Post #532 muddied the water a bit for me and I'm just looking for a yes or no answer. It makes it sound like if the turbo part is funded they can then move onto the intercooler with that money in the bank. Does that mean the $4000-4500 goes towards the intercooler as well or is that something to purchase separately later, if they decide to make it.

Thanks

 

[scottryana]

Sorry I can't give you better answers. I have just been told that right now the kit looks like it will be just under $4k, I gave it a little cushion so said $4-4.5k, but the reality is it isn't done, and I am not the one actually selling it. I am trying to give everyone all the information I can without stepping on the shop's toes.

There is still a chance it could come in much cheaper, but I know the shop does not want to cut any corners. I mean even going so far as including a new OEM Toyota oil pressure sender, the drill bits and taps required, etc.

I suppose an important thing to get input on is does everyone want a very complete kit, with every single part, tube coatings, new OEM parts, tools etc or do you want the cheapest kit possible (bare tubes, no extras) and you can figure out the other parts?

half k cruiser

Post #532 muddied the water a bit for me and I'm just looking for a yes or no answer. It makes it sound like if the turbo part is funded they can then move onto the intercooler with that money in the bank. Does that mean the $4000-4500 goes towards the intercooler as well or is that something to purchase separately later, if they decide to make it.

Thanks

 

[LFD2037]

half k cruiser

Post #532 muddied the water a bit for me and I'm just looking for a yes or no answer. It makes it sound like if the turbo part is funded they can then move onto the intercooler with that money in the bank. Does that mean the $4000-4500 goes towards the intercooler as well or is that something to purchase separately later, if they decide to make it.

Thanks

The answer is no. $4k-4,500 does NOT include an intercooler.

 

[Rookie2]

If I were to decide to buy one, I would want it to be a complete bolt on kit.

 

[mtnzorro]

The drainback is not for an oil cooler it is to oil the bearing inside the turbo. The turbo has to have oil or the bearings would burn up in a matter of minutes. You will have to drill and bolt on a threaded bung for the drain hose but everything is being done to keep it as bolt on as possible.

I'm in.

 

[Qball]

Sorry I can't give you better answers. I have just been told that right now the kit looks like it will be just under $4k, I gave it a little cushion so said $4-4.5k, but the reality is it isn't done, and I am not the one actually selling it. I am trying to give everyone all the information I can without stepping on the shop's toes.

There is still a chance it could come in much cheaper, but I know the shop does not want to cut any corners. I mean even going so far as including a new OEM Toyota oil pressure sender, the drill bits and taps required, etc.

I suppose an important thing to get input on is does everyone want a very complete kit, with every single part, tube coatings, new OEM parts, tools etc or do you want the cheapest kit possible (bare tubes, no extras) and you can figure out the other parts?

What's the PSI out of the box? 5? If so then we might be able to get away without the intercooler.

 

[snowglobe]

Complete kit

 

[bucketman]

Complete kit ready to bolt in.

 

[cavboy78]

what is the time to decide for the pre-buy, if that happens? I don't want to miss out on the party here!

 

[SteelHunterFJ80]

There is still a chance it could come in much cheaper, but I know the shop does not want to cut any corners. I mean even going so far as including a new OEM Toyota oil pressure sender, the drill bits and taps required, etc.

I suppose an important thing to get input on is does everyone want a very complete kit, with every single part, tube coatings, new OEM parts, tools etc or do you want the cheapest kit possible (bare tubes, no extras) and you can figure out the other parts?

I would much prefer a complete kit. Plus think of it this way: what they offer as a complete kit is likely something they used in a vehicle so it will more likely be a proven product. Me adding my own parts adds variability that I would prefer to avoid. Not to mention the time and effort I would have to put out finding parts for a incomplete kit.

 

[Heckraiser]

I suppose an important thing to get input on is does everyone want a very complete kit, with every single part, tube coatings, new OEM parts, tools etc or do you want the cheapest kit possible (bare tubes, no extras) and you can figure out the other parts?

I'll be honest, I would be a lot more inclined to buy a J-pipe and downpipe at a reduced price and forgo the rest of the parts.

 

[ThomasMore66]

I’m pretty excited. If we go to a new computer like Haltec, can we maintain OBD2?

 

[4rings5cyls]

Once you go intercooled, wouldn't you also be looking at a trans shift kit? I thought that was a recommended route after bumping up the HP/TQ but could be wrong.

 

[midfat]

Smart biz will be on the kit. Margins will be way better and it’s the only way to manage consumer satisfaction. As mentioned prioviously, when you let consumers develop their own viariables/solutions, the exponential range of issues will kill you. Sell a kit with EVERYTHING needed to make the swap, right down to the bolts, washers and plugs. Only way to go.

 

[scottryana]

It will likely be about 7psi, and yes you could run without an intercooler, but I would always recommend intercooling if possible....

What's the PSI out of the box? 5? If so then we might be able to get away without the intercooler.

I agree with all of you, it just seems much better to offer something 100% complete and well done than to pinch pennies, but had to ask.

Complete kit

Complete kit ready to bolt in.

I would much prefer a complete kit. Plus think of it this way: what they offer as a complete kit is likely something they used in a vehicle so it will more likely be a proven product. Me adding my own parts adds variability that I would prefer to avoid. Not to mention the time and effort I would have to put out finding parts for a incomplete kit.

Smart biz will be on the kit. Margins will be way better and it’s the only way to manage consumer satisfaction. As mentioned prioviously, when you let consumers develop their own viariables/solutions, the exponential range of issues will kill you. Sell a kit with EVERYTHING needed to make the swap, right down to the bolts, washers and plugs. Only way to go.

I have no idea if this will be offered, if not the rest of the parts shouldn't be too terrible, buying turbos numbers should allow a cheaper price than what you can buy individually.

I'll be honest, I would be a lot more inclined to buy a J-pipe and downpipe at a reduced price and forgo the rest of the parts.

I think they already have their one pre-buy at the discounted rate. If that falls through I will let you know.

what is the time to decide for the pre-buy, if that happens? I don't want to miss out on the party here!

It is very unlikely you can maintain OBDII with any standalone computers. There are ways to trick the OBDII computer but it takes significant effort and time.

I’m pretty excited. If we go to a new computer like Haltec, can we maintain OBD2?

The intercooler alone will not add significant power, it will make things more safe. Lower IAT's mean less chance of knock, etc. If you start increasing boost to get more power than yes the transgo shift kit is just one of many modifications needed.

Once you go intercooled, wouldn't you also be looking at a trans shift kit? I thought that was a recommended route after bumping up the HP/TQ but could be wrong.

 

[Rookie2]

I agree with all of you, it just seems much better to offer something 100% complete and well done than to pinch pennies, but had to ask.

I’m the guy that stands in the Home Depot aisle for 20 minutes staring at the Korky’s and Fluild Master flush valves, trying to figure out which one to buy. Please don’t have me shopping for turbo parts over a few bucks.

 

[aquatech3]

Sorry I can't give you better answers. I have just been told that right now the kit looks like it will be just under $4k, I gave it a little cushion so said $4-4.5k, but the reality is it isn't done, and I am not the one actually selling it. I am trying to give everyone all the information I can without stepping on the shop's toes.

There is still a chance it could come in much cheaper, but I know the shop does not want to cut any corners. I mean even going so far as including a new OEM Toyota oil pressure sender, the drill bits and taps required, etc.

I suppose an important thing to get input on is does everyone want a very complete kit, with every single part, tube coatings, new OEM parts, tools etc or do you want the cheapest kit possible (bare tubes, no extras) and you can figure out the other parts?

Ryan,

What is the HP range, boost range and exhaust A/R of the turbo in this kit?

 

[scottryana]

HP range of the turbo is not an accurate way of measuring flow. This turbo will flow around 75lbs/min at an PR of 3.8 but it will be pushed no where near that. I have attached the compressor map which is the best way to judge flow. You have to look at the flow at the PR you will be running.

Boost range? boost is a measurement of air flow restriction of a particular engine. This turbo maxed out on a 1.8L could probably push 50psi on an 9L engine It might only muster 8psi.

The exhaust A/R is 0.88.

Ryan,

What is the HP range, boost range and exhaust A/R of the turbo in this kit?

 

[LFD2037]

So what's the actual wheel HP/Tq gain from this exact, standalone turbo?

 

[scottryana]

The goal is to go from 130-135awhp to just under 200awhp. The exact number will be detailed later.

So what's the actual wheel HP/Tq gain from this exact, standalone turbo?